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You BlueGreen folks don't seem to get it.

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Hilton is the "best" vacation ownership company on almost every metric. It is expensive to buy in.
BG is the home of Bass Pro and sells points cheaply.
Hilton will swallow up BG and its owner population will flood into BG locations.
Max gives you only 6 months but even with that priority, it is a better club than BG.
Don't you get it? Do the research. I did for a friend. It's not perfect, nothing is.
Why are you fighting it? The takeover is done! You get a better product!
It's not yet rolled out, but it will be as promised by Hilton, and prices will undoubtably rise.
Not buying Max as a BG owner will not be a good thing. That you can count on.
It's amazing to see the best company in the business buy this small company and offer a much better product
and all people do is complain. I wish Hilton would buy my Wyndham! Progress never stops. To get Hilton for a relatively small purchase is the way to go.
 
LegacyOwner said:
Hilton is the "best" vacation ownership company on almost every metric. It is expensive to buy in.
BG is the home of Bass Pro and sells points cheaply.
Hilton will swallow up BG and its owner population will flood into BG locations.
Max gives you only 6 months but even with that priority, it is a better club than BG.
Don't you get it? Do the research. I did for a friend. It's not perfect, nothing is.
Why are you fighting it? The takeover is done! You get a better product!
It's not yet rolled out, but it will be as promised by Hilton, and prices will undoubtably rise.
Not buying Max as a BG owner will not be a good thing. That you can count on.
It's amazing to see the best company in the business buy this small company and offer a much better product
and all people do is complain. Progress never stops. To get Hilton for a relatively small purchase is the way to go.
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I’m not so sure about your arguments. I rarely see people raving about Max.
 
Glynda: Typical mentality of the low-cost Bluegreen owner. "I love my BG and its not gonna change". SMH
LOL. wanna bet? BG has been bought for over 1.5B dollars! Do you think its gonna stay the same?
Use your head. BG is part of Hilton. SMH
Mongoose: You don't have to "rave about Max". It offers like 3x the number of properties that BG has.
That alone makes it worth it. And Hiltons are nicer than BG's, I bet.
 
LegacyOwner said:
Hilton is the "best" vacation ownership company on almost every metric. It is expensive to buy in.
BG is the home of Bass Pro and sells points cheaply.
Hilton will swallow up BG and its owner population will flood into BG locations.
Max gives you only 6 months but even with that priority, it is a better club than BG.
Don't you get it? Do the research. I did for a friend. It's not perfect, nothing is.
Why are you fighting it? The takeover is done! You get a better product!
It's not yet rolled out, but it will be as promised by Hilton, and prices will undoubtably rise.
Not buying Max as a BG owner will not be a good thing. That you can count on.
It's amazing to see the best company in the business buy this small company and offer a much better product
and all people do is complain. I wish Hilton would buy my Wyndham! Progress never stops. To get Hilton for a relatively small purchase is the way to go.
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@LegacyOwner You have swooped in here with that title to tell the BG owners this?? Welcome to TUG and you might consider being a more helpful and less aggressive part of this community. Just a thought, although I suspect it won't go far. And you might want to spring for the grand sum of $15 to support the great work that Brian and members provide.
 
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LegacyOwner said:
Hilton is the "best" vacation ownership company on almost every metric. It is expensive to buy in.
BG is the home of Bass Pro and sells points cheaply.
Hilton will swallow up BG and its owner population will flood into BG locations.
Max gives you only 6 months but even with that priority, it is a better club than BG.
Don't you get it? Do the research. I did for a friend. It's not perfect, nothing is.
Why are you fighting it? The takeover is done! You get a better product!
It's not yet rolled out, but it will be as promised by Hilton, and prices will undoubtably rise.
Not buying Max as a BG owner will not be a good thing. That you can count on.
It's amazing to see the best company in the business buy this small company and offer a much better product
and all people do is complain. I wish Hilton would buy my Wyndham! Progress never stops. To get Hilton for a relatively small purchase is the way to go.
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What do you do for a living?
 
zentraveler said:
@LegacyOwner You have swooped in here with that title to tell the BG owners this?? Welcome to TUG and you might consider being a more helpful and less aggressive part of this community. Just a thought, although I suspect it won't go far.
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Don't mean to be over the top. I just spent days doing the research for our dear friend who owns BG who was confused. Read a lot and spoke to some really smart people. She loves her BG and uses it well and says "I love my BG and I don't want it to change" just like Glynda. After analysis my wife and I agreed that having Max is the right thing for her. I felt like a time share salesman trying to convince her of the merits!
 
LegacyOwner said:
Max gives you only 6 months but even with that priority, it is a better club than BG.
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Another alternative will be: just buy the HGV product (resale of course) and get 12 months priority so you book what you want.

LegacyOwner said:
I wish To get Hilton for a relatively small purchase is the way to go.
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What is YOUR definition of "small" purchase?
 
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You a rude
You are not a productive addition to this lovely community
I wish you well
But … honestly … we are all adults here, we can handle the truth etc… your attitude is personally offensive and not responsible
I don’t even own blue green …
But you don’t need to be such a “hater”
LegacyOwner said:
Hilton is the "best" vacation ownership company on almost every metric. It is expensive to buy in.
BG is the home of Bass Pro and sells points cheaply.
Hilton will swallow up BG and its owner population will flood into BG locations.
Max gives you only 6 months but even with that priority, it is a better club than BG.
Don't you get it? Do the research. I did for a friend. It's not perfect, nothing is.
Why are you fighting it? The takeover is done! You get a better product!
It's not yet rolled out, but it will be as promised by Hilton, and prices will undoubtably rise.
Not buying Max as a BG owner will not be a good thing. That you can count on.
It's amazing to see the best company in the business buy this small company and offer a much better product
and all people do is complain. I wish Hilton would buy my Wyndham! Progress never stops. To get Hilton for a relatively small purchase is the way to go.
Click to expand...
 
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LegacyOwner said:
Glynda: Typical mentality of the low-cost Bluegreen owner. "I love my BG and its not gonna change". SMH
LOL. wanna bet? BG has been bought for over 1.5B dollars! Do you think its gonna stay the same?
Use your head. BG is part of Hilton. SMH
Mongoose: You don't have to "rave about Max". It offers like 3x the number of properties that BG has.
That alone makes it worth it. And Hiltons are nicer than BG's, I bet.
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Rude
 
LegacyOwner said:
Don't mean to be over the top. I just spent days doing the research for our dear friend who owns BG who was confused. Read a lot and spoke to some really smart people. She loves her BG and uses it well and says "I love my BG and I don't want it to change" just like Glynda. After analysis my wife and I agreed that having Max is the right thing for her. I felt like a time share salesman trying to convince her of the merits!
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You need to do more research, you are giving your friend bad advice if it's to buy Max from Hilton.
 
I have Hilton HGVC and I want nothing to do with MAX, not even if they gave me MAX for free. I will stick with Legacy HGVC EP thank you. And I certainly would not want to purchase RETAIL to get into MAX. I've been to the presentations. I've done the research. It's a downgrade for me. Whatever HVC tries to sell me will essentially be worthless after I buy it. I wouldn't be able to give it away. And HVC won't even do a deedback on it as of now and if they did I would have to pay them more to take it back. And the MAX six month window??? Everything will be picked over by then. No I don't own BG. But from what I've read the BG owners will be able to use their BG as before if they stay away from MAX. Same as the DIA people are able to use their DIA resort. If I want access to the MAX HVC properties (The few that I am interested in) I use DeX EU. I can get nightly or multiple nights for decent rates through Destinations Xtras or book up to two years ahead as a weekly exchange.
 
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Tell her to either use her Bluegreen as is or buy a Hgvc resale week and give away the Bluegreen. Spending money on Max is a huge mistake. Whatever research you did lacked the experience of Hgvc owners.
 
If you compare it to other systems, the legacy product will continue to function just fine as it has. Marriott legacy weeks continue to work great 15 years later. I would even say they work better than the Marriott points program. Bluegreen will be no different. Bluegreen owners will be just fine for many many years to come. "Upgrading" usually isn't the way to go.
 
LegacyOwner said:
Don't mean to be over the top. I just spent days doing the research for our dear friend who owns BG who was confused. Read a lot and spoke to some really smart people. She loves her BG and uses it well and says "I love my BG and I don't want it to change" just like Glynda. After analysis my wife and I agreed that having Max is the right thing for her. I felt like a time share salesman trying to convince her of the merits!
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I mean, not only did he do multiple days of research differentiating and comparing the ins and outs of Marriott, Westin, Sheraton, Hilton, Hyatt, Bluegreen, Wyndham, Worldmark, Holliday Inn, etc, but he talked to really smart people as well

I don’t understand why you all, with decades of experience actually living this life and using these systems, wouldn’t take his extremely well researched advice (which his wife also agrees with by the way so you know it’s legit), accept it, and feel better knowing that you’re a little less dumb now

Man, sometimes people can’t get out of their own way and recognize when a genius is handing out gems

Thank you King! Please drop in with more posts like this from time to time 🙏 🤣
 
LegacyOwner said:
Hilton is the "best" vacation ownership company on almost every metric. It is expensive to buy in.
BG is the home of Bass Pro and sells points cheaply.
Hilton will swallow up BG and its owner population will flood into BG locations.
Max gives you only 6 months but even with that priority, it is a better club than BG.
Don't you get it? Do the research. I did for a friend. It's not perfect, nothing is.
Why are you fighting it? The takeover is done! You get a better product!
It's not yet rolled out, but it will be as promised by Hilton, and prices will undoubtably rise.
Not buying Max as a BG owner will not be a good thing. That you can count on.
It's amazing to see the best company in the business buy this small company and offer a much better product
Click to expand...
I disagree completely with your advice because none of what you are saying is true based on experience. This sounds like something that I would hear coming from a TS salesperson during a presentation. You gave no facts, just trust you.
 
LegacyOwner said:
Hilton is the "best" vacation ownership company on almost every metric. It is expensive to buy in.
BG is the home of Bass Pro and sells points cheaply.
Hilton will swallow up BG and its owner population will flood into BG locations.
Max gives you only 6 months but even with that priority, it is a better club than BG.
Don't you get it? Do the research. I did for a friend. It's not perfect, nothing is.
Why are you fighting it? The takeover is done! You get a better product!
It's not yet rolled out, but it will be as promised by Hilton, and prices will undoubtably rise.
Not buying Max as a BG owner will not be a good thing. That you can count on.
It's amazing to see the best company in the business buy this small company and offer a much better product
and all people do is complain. I wish Hilton would buy my Wyndham! Progress never stops. To get Hilton for a relatively small purchase is the way to go.
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"Hilton will swallow up BG and its owner population will flood into BG locations" - not true.
MAX is an exchange program - 1 trades out of BG, 1 can come in from other Hilton resorts (if they have put their own entitlement in). That's at 6 months out. Nothing has changed for us at Embarc, but of course sales are saying exactly what you just posted here. Are you a Hilton salesperson?
 
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LegacyOwner said:
Stay tuned, I will be coming here to post the lies made about our ownership by salespeople.
Most of them are such nonsense it is amazing anyone believes them, but they do and they buy and they get ripped off over and over again.
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I checked the OPs post history, and he is the person with the "List of Lies" thread that went on for a while. Things are starting to fit together.
 
GT75 said:
I disagree completely with your advice because none of what you are saying is true based on experience. This sounds like something that I would hear coming from a TS salesperson during a presentation. You gave no facts, just trust you.
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Don't dare question the OP. We all know his advice is beyond reproach. 😂
 
Pennytx said:
You a rude
You are not a productive addition to this lovely community
I wish you well
But … honestly … we are all adults here, we can handle the truth etc… your attitude is personally offensive and not responsible
I don’t even own blue green …
But you don’t need to be such a “hater”
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True but when you drive by a horrible accident on the freeway most people can't help but look. The OP just wants a reaction and got one.
 
LegacyOwner said:
Glynda: Typical mentality of the low-cost Bluegreen owner. "I love my BG and its not gonna change". SMH
LOL. wanna bet? BG has been bought for over 1.5B dollars! Do you think its gonna stay the same?
Use your head. BG is part of Hilton. SMH
Mongoose: You don't have to "rave about Max". It offers like 3x the number of properties that BG has.
That alone makes it worth it. And Hiltons are nicer than BG's, I bet.
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I know what SMH means. I think of Taylor Swift and all of her little teen and tween minions, including my 10-year-old granddaughter, every time I see this acronym.

Don't accuse people of hating Max after Bluegreen was taken over by another company with a new product to sell. Hilton is different from Max. That is my understanding. As far as owners are concerned, and I agree with this, selling a new product that is not tested with the affirmation that it is a good product only by salespeople is buying something blind.

Hilton owners are going to be happiest in this bunch of Hilton/ Diamond/ Bluegreen Max owners. If I bought Hilton, I would buy Hilton, and it's super cheap to buy right now.

You really have no advice to give.

Hilton should offer this product for free to all BG owners. I have a perfect example of a great company that did exactly that. We bought two resale weeks at Westin on Maui, and when Marriott took over, we were brought into that program without paying a dime. We didn't buy to own Abound, we bought to own a specific unit at Westin. The Marriott Abound was a surprise, and we are now the highest level of ownership with Abound. It would have cost us over $250K to buy that status with that number of points.
 
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