Because I am guessing many VIPs book like I do - in anticipation rather than with solidified plans. The way I would have chosen resale vacations would be the ones I knew would not be canceled or changed or expected an upgrade from. Except for one, all the ones they chose to make resale are ones I very likely WILL need to make changes to, but at this point will have to pay to do so. And the fact that they used both VIP and resale points for the majority of the now resale bookings means they could and should have chosen fewer vacations to make resale.
The reason it upsets me a little is many cases they booked with a majority of retail points and added a small amount of resale points to the reservation to complete it.. IMHO I would rather have one reservation be resale using all resale points than 5 or 6 be resale using both retail and resale.
They did a great job with mine. I’m very pleased.
Please do not presume you know who I am - and please do not presume that Wyndham’s weird way of allocating should work for everyone. Just because you are happy with what was dictated does not mean others need be. Get out of business with the shitty company I gave a whole lot of money is basically you saying what I paid for should just be handed back, but I guess that would make a lot of people happy because they’re eliminating even more of the competition for your hotly contested vacation locations.. That’s just a crappy solution.
C'mon, at least be honest. Are you talking about reservations for your own vacations, or are you spouting about your rentals reservations for guests?
It’s going to make me even more happy to Ignore you. Bye.
Wyndham played it both ways. 1) Disclaiming on purchase agreement that points are not being bought to pay maintenance fees and 2) disclosing in owners directory that resale points could not be used with VIP benefits. They then had sales use the strategy that if they bought up to VIP the resale points could be used as VIP perk. Now @ronparise this is what I call a real Hustle. Ironically the stripped contracts that Wyndham bought were fuel for the sales team to pad the companies bottom line. Wyndham did not care if points were used as long as they had inventory to sell, sell, sell!
LET’S BE CLEAR I AM NOT A FREAKING RENTER SO YES MY OWN *bleep*ING VACATIONS.
If only you followed what your signature said. Would be a much better world.
To be fair the directory says resale will not count toward points required for VIP status. It says nothing about those points not receiving VIP benefits. Whether that was the intent or not on Wyndham’s part, they did not specify it. So unless you can point to a different location where it is actually spelled out, it isn’t spelled out as they are now enforcing.
It was in the 3 prior directories to the current one. While it was removed in the current directory, it also wasn’t reversed - it was simply not spelled out either way.
So I went through my account to give you a concrete example. The vacations for this year that are using resale points add up to over 2.5 times the resale points in my account. This means they determined most of the rollover points were resale - or they just screwed up.
Which means it is not spelled out. The current directory is the rules. All old ones were superseded by it. Seems like a major failing on Wyndham’s part. Besides it was published in 2018, almost 4 years ago - that is a lot of sales made on those rules without disclosing their previous intent. There can not be an expectation that old rules still exist unless the old directories are also provided to new customers.
And ultimately I will say what I’ve said repeatedly, the rules are what Wyndham says they are today. This was just in terms of 55plus’s comments that people who got that usage (of resale points with VIP benefits) are coming out ahead. I agree, because the only clues that Wyndham gave in writing, in the directories published between 2009 and 2015, was that they didn’t intend for that usage to be possible. Then there was a directory that said nothing. “Coming out ahead” is just an attitude, though, not a legal standard.
All I was trying to point out was it is not spelled out. That’s the key. For folks who bought developer AFTER 2018 and were told that their resale would have the same benefits, hearing that they’ve been freeloading and are coming out ahead isn’t really a fair thing to say to them. Wyndham sold to them under one thing all along intending another which was never disclosed.
I guess I don't know what it's the key to. What's done is done.
It was key to my reply - it was the point I was making.
I received the points but not the email. But, I did receive the letter through regular mail.
I received 216,550 points to use next year and they work like developer points. It's roughly about 35% of my total points combined with my resale points and developer points under a VIP Gold membership.
Can you share where you see these and how they show up?