seema
TUG Member
Three senior MVCI sources have told me that the program (internally, administratively) changed sometime in the summer of 2010.
From then on, all Vacation Club Points have been considered equal.
Until then, I guess the thinking (which I see on this bulletin board - as an example, see post #2 of this thread: http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167911) has been that legacy week points and trust points go into 2 separate pools of points - the trust points could access the legacy week points, but the legacy week points could not access the trust points.
Now, and this is a quote from one of the sources,
"I can, however assure you that once points whether they be from the trust or exchange source are in the Destinations program they have equal power and access"
I have an email from a second source as well, which more or less states that the same thing.
One of these 3 sources, in addition, told me that now the 2 sets of points are co-mingled in a third pool of points - called the flex points pool (not to be confused with flex change of II) - so any type of reservation made by any type or combination of VC points comes from this source.
I was told that everyone (including all all sales representatives) at sales presentations, know about the features that all points (both legacy week and trust) are considered to be equal in value and in access.
However, I was also told that the concept of "flex" pool of mingled/combined legacy week points and trust points was an internal MCVI administrative matter - and that virtually no one at MVCI resorts would not know of this concept. I was told that the legal department of MVCI would not allow the statement of the presence a flex pool to be sent out to a customer (ie me) in a documented (ie email) form; however, I was told that the concept of the two sets of points be equal (implying that they are really only one set of points, when used for various reservation) and co-mingled in a third common pool are implied in the contracts and disclosures. One of the sources went over the appropriate sections of the contract - but there was no way I could interpret the legal wording in the contract to be able to say the contract says that all points are equal by virtue of them being co-mingled in a third "flex" pool.
I am wondering how many people at Owner Services know about the equality of the 2 sets of points. I called earlier this week; I spoke to someone - he was not aware of this until he spoke to his supervisor. I have a friend who is an enrolled owner of a legacy week at three different MVCI resorts - he called his vacation advisor and that vacation advisor could not confirm the equality of the 2 sets of vacation club points.
I was at a resort last week - at a sale presentation - I was an legacy week owner at Ko Olina. I was enticed to buy some extra trust points - so I am now a premier owner - one of my conditions of enrolling my legacy week and buying the extra trust points (to become a premier member) was that my legacy week points and my trust points, for any and all usage, would be totally equal.
From then on, all Vacation Club Points have been considered equal.
Until then, I guess the thinking (which I see on this bulletin board - as an example, see post #2 of this thread: http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167911) has been that legacy week points and trust points go into 2 separate pools of points - the trust points could access the legacy week points, but the legacy week points could not access the trust points.
Now, and this is a quote from one of the sources,
"I can, however assure you that once points whether they be from the trust or exchange source are in the Destinations program they have equal power and access"
I have an email from a second source as well, which more or less states that the same thing.
One of these 3 sources, in addition, told me that now the 2 sets of points are co-mingled in a third pool of points - called the flex points pool (not to be confused with flex change of II) - so any type of reservation made by any type or combination of VC points comes from this source.
I was told that everyone (including all all sales representatives) at sales presentations, know about the features that all points (both legacy week and trust) are considered to be equal in value and in access.
However, I was also told that the concept of "flex" pool of mingled/combined legacy week points and trust points was an internal MCVI administrative matter - and that virtually no one at MVCI resorts would not know of this concept. I was told that the legal department of MVCI would not allow the statement of the presence a flex pool to be sent out to a customer (ie me) in a documented (ie email) form; however, I was told that the concept of the two sets of points be equal (implying that they are really only one set of points, when used for various reservation) and co-mingled in a third common pool are implied in the contracts and disclosures. One of the sources went over the appropriate sections of the contract - but there was no way I could interpret the legal wording in the contract to be able to say the contract says that all points are equal by virtue of them being co-mingled in a third "flex" pool.
I am wondering how many people at Owner Services know about the equality of the 2 sets of points. I called earlier this week; I spoke to someone - he was not aware of this until he spoke to his supervisor. I have a friend who is an enrolled owner of a legacy week at three different MVCI resorts - he called his vacation advisor and that vacation advisor could not confirm the equality of the 2 sets of vacation club points.
I was at a resort last week - at a sale presentation - I was an legacy week owner at Ko Olina. I was enticed to buy some extra trust points - so I am now a premier owner - one of my conditions of enrolling my legacy week and buying the extra trust points (to become a premier member) was that my legacy week points and my trust points, for any and all usage, would be totally equal.
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