Wyndham Supply and Demand Questions in 2026 after resort closure?

[schreff]

If Wyndham is closing 20 or more resorts according to our TUG threads, how many weeks will be removed from the Wyndham inventory in total? Will this not create a supply and demand nightmare especially after the weeks owner's have already booked are cancelled? A THOUSAND QUESTIONS AND NO WYNDHAM ANSWERS.

 

[chapjim]

I didn't know the number was twenty but your question is still valid. "Nightmare" may be hyperbolic but owners will have to start booking earlier than they are used to.

 

[jp10558]

I believe the current thought is that very few people were booking these resorts that are getting removed, so the change should be small.

 

[Jan M.]

Some owners at the resorts being dropped won't be accepting the offered exchange of CWA points for their deeds and will no longer be owners.

A number of owners who don't own at one of the resorts being dropped, but exclusively or mostly stay at one or more of the resorts bring dropped because they are within driving distance, are saying they now intend to exit Wyndham.

Some people think Wyndham's use of the occupancy numbers to justify what is obviously a financial move is questionable, a little too convenient, etc. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing but I do understand the skepticism. It isn't all that difficult, if you know what you're doing, to set parameters, manipulate numbers to make them show what you want them to show. As I've said before this is a financial, logic based move for Wyndham. The owners reactions to the loss of these resorts are emotion based.

I'm a numbers person and will go to great lengths to make the numbers I'm working with as accurate as possible. Some of these resorts have a decent amount of rentals by both Wyndham and owners and owners family/friend stays. That skews the numbers and also makes it easy to skew them. No, the numbers aren't as accurate as someone like me likes them to be, but I wouldn't say they're completely and wildly inaccurate.

In addition to the owners now looking at going to other resorts, the renters will also be doing that too.

1. Wyndham's numbers don't show a big enough picture to get a better idea of the issue of competition for reservations at the remaining resorts. In addtion to owner use, there's guest use, rental use, and use of the inventory Wyndham deposits in RCI.
2. Yes, we'll be losing owners, however a good number of them exclusively stayed at, or mostly stayed at the resorts being dropped.
3. Wyndham's goal is to sell and constantly bring in new owners.
4. When added up the total number of units being lost isn't an inconsequential number like some people seem to think it is.

Something Dolly Parton once said about a wardrobe malfunction comes to mind. She said her daddy would say that's what you get for trying to put 15 pounds of mud in a 5 pound sack. It's gotta go somewhere.

 

[Floridaman76]

I believe it will create an under supply and over demand problem at some resorts at certain higher demand times. I have been criticized for my opinion by some.

Guess we will see.

 

[WManning]

If Wyndham is closing 20 or more resorts according to our TUG threads, how many weeks will be removed from the Wyndham inventory in total? Will this not create a supply and demand nightmare especially after the weeks owner's have already booked are cancelled? A THOUSAND QUESTIONS AND NO WYNDHAM ANSWERS.

Never a supply issue if your booking window is flexible.

 

[Jan M.]

Never a supply issue if your booking window is flexible.

And that's the problem. Some of us are very flexible about when and where we go. Very open to experiencing different areas and resorts. I'd estimate that we're in the minority.

There's probably more owners tied to having to schedule vacation time at the start of the year or months out, school and sports schedules. Not to mention the owners who only want to stay at Bonnet Creek, specific beach resorts, etc. There's also the owners who bought to be able to book a certain resort for a major event week.

As I frequently post, we travel a lot with our timeshares. Added to that are our family's stays. This year we and family have had 63 nights at resorts that are leaving. We have family in Tennessee, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Virginia. I don't mind being generous but losing Fairfield Glade is going to hurt the most. I'm not looking forward to telling them I may not be able to find them something at Smoky Mountains, the other convenient resort, for when they call to say they're wanting to go visit.

 

[Arimaas]

Never a supply issue if your booking window is flexible.

I never thought timesharing was a good purchase unless you could be flexible. Unless of course you bought a fixed week at a place you really wanted to go every year. Although, I have to be honest, I've actually been pretty lucky in my decade of owning Hilton and Wyndham. Hopefully that doesn't change going forward as some of us worry about.

 

[jp10558]

I never thought timesharing was a good purchase unless you could be flexible. Unless of course you bought a fixed week at a place you really wanted to go every year. Although, I have to be honest, I've actually been pretty lucky in my decade of owning Hilton and Wyndham. Hopefully that doesn't change going forward as some of us worry about.

I think if you can't be flexible, you have to own where you want to go - fixed week makes that easiest, but floating week can be do-able I think. So far I can call up Gaitlinburg Town Square and book the July 4th week - a pretty popular one there from what I understand - at about a year out with no issue. And I would think the home week booking in HGVC would also guarantee you that week and unit. With Wyndham I'd think ARP would also make it reasonably simple to book where you own, at least for 2BR or smaller for sure. I did notice some contention in the summer in Wyndham at 10 months for say Oceanside, but it looked pretty bookable at 10 months in the May/June timeframe, and I'm going to try and remember to check for September/October as well.

That all said, I guess I also hope they open some new resorts to make up for these losses.

 

[schreff]

I believe the current thought is that very few people were booking these resorts that are getting removed, so the change should be small.

I agree that some of the resorts listed would have low occupancy; however, Skyline Towers in Atlantic City was always full along with Bentley Brook and Shawnee.

 

[dioxide45]

I agree that some of the resorts listed would have low occupancy; however, Skyline Towers in Atlantic City was always full along with Bentley Brook and Shawnee.

According to the attachment in this post, at least at one of the associations of Shawnee, occupancy was below 50%. The main problem is properties in areas with highly seasonal demand. Cold in winter without winter activities means low occupancy. So while it may be full in the summer, it is a near ghost town in the winter.

 

[schreff]

Some owners at the resorts being dropped won't be accepting the offered exchange of CWA points for their deeds and will no longer be owners.

A number of owners who don't own at one of the resorts being dropped, but exclusively or mostly stay at one or more of the resorts bring dropped because they are within driving distance, are saying they now intend to exit Wyndham.

Some people think Wyndham's use of the occupancy numbers to justify what is obviously a financial move is questionable, a little too convenient, etc. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing but I do understand the skepticism. It isn't all that difficult, if you know what you're doing, to set parameters, manipulate numbers to make them show what you want them to show. As I've said before this is a financial, logic based move for Wyndham. The owners reactions to the loss of these resorts are emotion based.

I'm a numbers person and will go to great lengths to make the numbers I'm working with as accurate as possible. Some of these resorts have a decent amount of rentals by both Wyndham and owners and owners family/friend stays. That skews the numbers and also makes it easy to skew them. No, the numbers aren't as accurate as someone like me likes them to be, but I wouldn't say they're completely and wildly inaccurate.

In addition to the owners now looking at going to other resorts, the renters will also be doing that too.

1. Wyndham's numbers don't show a big enough picture to get a better idea of the issue of competition for reservations at the remaining resorts. In addtion to owner use, there's guest use, rental use, and use of the inventory Wyndham deposits in RCI.
2. Yes, we'll be losing owners, however a good number of them exclusively stayed at, or mostly stayed at the resorts being dropped.
3. Wyndham's goal is to sell and constantly bring in new owners.
4. When added up the total number of units being lost isn't an inconsequential number like some people seem to think it is.

Something Dolly Parton once said about a wardrobe malfunction comes to mind. She said her daddy would say that's what you get for trying to put 15 pounds of mud in a 5 pound sack. It's gotta go somewhere.

We are one of those VIP owners that you refer to in your second paragraph. We are older and have physical problems which making driving long distances and flying difficult so we stay at closer resorts all of which are on the list of possible closure.

Also, a big unknown is just how many weeks are already booked at the seasonal high demand resorts? When will these reservations be cancelled by Wyndham? Even now many resorts are already fully booked in high demand times making substitutes for the cancelled reservations impossible. What will Wyndham do if there is no supply when the cancelled reservation demand hits?

 

[Floridaman76]

Never a supply issue if your booking window is flexible.

Yes, and no. That's a very loaded statement.

Want to go to Newport, RI area in summer? Not a chance. Want to go in fall? Yes, if you book 6+ months you should be ok. Dead of winter? Absolutely. Sping? March and early April is ok, late April and May, not so much.

Steamboat, Avon, Park City? Tough during ski season, even months out. If you want Christmas or New Years week, forget it at these resorts unless you own deeded there and book at your ARP window or have Access and get lucky, or get lucky if you have VIP RARP and book at midnight at 11 months.

There's a few locations that are very seasonal and / or have short "seasons" that for one reason or antoher are hard to book when people want too go. Nobody wants to go to Steamboat or Avon in mud season, or some of the Northern non-ski resorts during winter. And in some of those locations fall and spring are short and unpredictable weather wise.

Sure you can always book in Florida or California if flexible. But even places like Clearwater you have to book close to 10 months if you need a week during summer.

Also, unless you are a retiree, most people truly aren't infinitely flexible. A huge percentage of owners travel with their kids and have very speicific travel windows (summer, winter break, spring break) that demand is artificially high every year.

 

[schreff]

Yes, and no. That's a very loaded statement.

Want to go to Newport, RI area in summer? Not a chance. Want to go in fall? Yes, if you book 6+ months you should be ok. Dead of winter? Absolutely. Sping? March and early April is ok, late April and May, not so much.

Steamboat, Avon, Park City? Tough during ski season, even months out. If you want Christmas or New Years week, forget it at these resorts unless you own deeded there and book at your ARP window or have Access and get lucky, or get lucky if you have VIP RARP and book at midnight at 11 months.

There's a few locations that are very seasonal and / or have short "seasons" that for one reason or antoher are hard to book when people want too go. Nobody wants to go to Steamboat or Avon in mud season, or some of the Northern non-ski resorts during winter. And in some of those locations fall and spring are short and unpredictable weather wise.

Sure you can always book in Florida or California if flexible. But even places like Clearwater you have to book close to 10 months if you need a week during summer.

Also, unless you are a retiree, most people truly aren't infinitely flexible. A huge percentage of owners travel with their kids and have very speicific travel windows (summer, winter break, spring break) that demand is artificially high every year.

Agree fully and for these folks it is a serious supply issue. Again, we must consider the cancellation of the reservations already made in 2026 for resorts closing in 2026 . I'm sure they will reimburse owners the points but where do they book for the exact cancelled week. What will Wyndham do if there is no supply when the cancelled reservation demand hits?

 

[Floridaman76]

Agree fully and for these folks it is a serious supply issue. Again, we must consider the cancellation of the reservations already made in 2026 for resorts closing in 2026 . I'm sure they will reimburse owners the points but where do they book for the exact cancelled week. What will Wyndham do if there is no supply when the cancelled reservation demand hits?

Keep in mind a lot of people here are retired older people and only think from their personal mindset and life situation, and discard other factors like "nobody wants to go somewhere you can't ski at in the dead of winter when you can't do anything outside and everything is closed down for the season".

I will concede that if your schedule is infinitely flexible and don't mind sitting in your room the entire time, yes, you can always find somewhere to go.