Wyndham Privileges: new Wyndham VIP Levels starting late 2020 [Merged]

[chapjim]

Anybody figure out "Exclusive rotating benefits" yet?

There's a colon after "Exclusive rotating benefits" so it would seem that they are All-inclusive experiences and Club Pass points discounts.

I don't get it. Maybe that's because I got a B- in Marketing in 1965.

 

[Richelle]

Anybody figure out "Exclusive rotating benefits" yet?

There's a colon after "Exclusive rotating benefits" so it would seem that they are All-inclusive experiences and Club Pass points discounts.

I don't get it. Maybe that's because I got a B- in Marketing in 1965.

Maybe it means that they get exclusive discounts, benefits, or other deals that change from time to time. Sort of like the points discount specials, but exclusive to titanium. That’s my best guess.


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[Richelle]

They always can buy from corporate telesales. The list is called DNG - as in Do Not Gift (for attending a presentation). Not ... do not sell ... which I think is something else

I know of someone who was told they were on the do not sell list and telesales wouldn’t sell her points.


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[HitchHiker71]

I just received the formal email into my Inbox, screenshot attached for reference.

 

[Manzana]

I just received the formal email into my Inbox, screenshot attached for reference.

I just got the email as well.

 

[paxsarah]

“simplified”

 

[55plus]

I just received the formal email into my Inbox, screenshot attached for reference.

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Instead of being considered 'Elite' or have 'Status' we are now Privileged. So does that means VIP owners had the privilege of giving Wyndham boatloads of money?

 

[Braindead]

Hey, BD.

As another PR owner, I agree with you that PR has certain features that work well for me (and likely you). However, don't try to convince other owners that it does have value. If more owners become PR owners, it will minimize the availability of certain units for you and me!

While this post is clearly "tongue in cheek," there is some merit to my assertion. PR is possibly the least understood level/status in the Wyndham ownership spectrum.

Wes

Oh no you outed me, now they know I’m a PR owner & I actually know what’s on a PR deed!! LOL. I don’t care that you outed me after all we’re all friends here, well most of the time anyway! LOL

Yes I love being a snob PR owner with benefits!!

 

[comicbookman]

I just received the formal email into my Inbox, screenshot attached for reference.

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and it has showed up in my inbox as well. Not terribly inspiring.

 

[HitchHiker71]

“simplified”

Indeed. I'm hopeful that this is referencing the possibility that I've heard internally that the points percentage discounts and possibly even the upgrade windows will no longer apply only within a defined window.

 

[bnoble]

Indeed. I'm hopeful that this is referencing the possibility that I've heard internally that the points percentage discounts and possibly even the upgrade windows will no longer apply only within a defined window.

Wyndham fell all over themselves to more effectively enforce the window by making cancel-rebook impossible just a few years ago. This seems astonishingly unlikely to me.

But, I've been wrong before---many times.

 

[chapjim]

Oh, man! That memo is so full of it I don't even know where to start!

Having neutered the most valuable of VIP benefits, Wyndham is simplifying and re-imagining the VIP program to help maximize the VIP experience. What a crock!

How generous! Throw the canary another seed.

 

[dgalati]

Oh no you outed me, now they know I’m a PR owner & I actually know what’s on a PR deed!! LOL. I don’t care that you outed me after all we’re all friends here, well most of the time anyway! LOLYes I love being a snob PR owner with benefits!!

BD,
You should be proud of those benefits that were paid for and give you status.Remember what status is. 55plus explained it very well. Congratulations to you for becoming a PR VIP owner and becoming a SNOB. Many PR VIP owners are renting me points for less then it costs me to pay maintenance fees. I wouldn't consider them and many of them would not consider themselves to be snobs for buying into PR VIP status.

 

[dgalati]

I know of someone who was told they were on the do not sell list and telesales wouldn’t sell her points.


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I was told they could not sell me if they wanted to. March of 2019 at Bonnet Creek. Maybe they seen all the resale deeds purchased? In and out in less then 40 minutes.

 

[Richelle]

I was told they could not sell me if they wanted to. March of 2019 at Bonnet Creek. Maybe they seen all the resale deeds purchased? In and out in less then 40 minutes.

Did they tell you why?


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[dgalati]

Oh, man! That memo is so full of it I don't even know where to start!

Having neutered the most valuable of VIP benefits, Wyndham is simplifying and re-imagining the VIP program to help maximize the VIP experience. What a crock!

How generous! Throw the canary another seed.

Do you feel hoodwinked?

 

[Richelle]

Oh no you outed me, now they know I’m a PR owner & I actually know what’s on a PR deed!! LOL. I don’t care that you outed me after all we’re all friends here, well most of the time anyway! LOL

Yes I love being a snob PR owner with benefits!!

Congrats. I hope you enjoy using it, you snob! Lol. J/k of course. I don’t see you pulling off being a snob for more then 5 minutes.


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[dgalati]

Did they tell you why?


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I had a open case on use year alignment. It was more about the salesman knowing I bought all resale and he had no chance of selling me devolper points. PR VIP is not on my agenda if I can rent from a VIP for less then I pay in maintenance fees

 

[Richelle]

BD,
You should be proud of those benefits that were paid for and give you status.Remember what status is. 55plus explained it very well. Congratulations to you for becoming a PR VIP owner and becoming a SNOB. Many PR VIP owners are renting me points for less then it costs me to pay maintenance fees. I wouldn't consider them and many of them would not consider themselves to be snobs for buying into PR VIP status.

I was talking to an owner, who was told they are no longer selling PR. A few others in their group said they were told the same thing. I think sales is pulling their leg, but I cannot think of why, other then Wyndham is limiting the number of PR points one can buy. Maybe they don’t want people to know they are limiting them, so they make up an excuse. Maybe someone else here can say if they heard the same? I would think, they would convert some presidential units into PR to get more inventory. They may even look to expand the PR portfolio by converting presidential units at resorts that are not currently in the portfolio. I find it hard to believe there is no more inventory.


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[dgalati]

I was talking to an owner, who was told they are no longer selling PR. A few others in their group said they were told the same thing. I think sales is pulling their leg, but I cannot think of why, other then Wyndham is limiting the number of PR points one can buy. Maybe they don’t want people to know they are limiting them, so they make up an excuse. Maybe someone else here can say if they heard the same? I would think, they would convert some presidential units into PR to get more inventory. They may even look to expand the PR portfolio by converting presidential units at resorts that are not currently in the portfolio. I find it hard to believe there is no more inventory.

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Wyndham will buy , no I don't mean take back those deeds through Ovation. They will buy a through a third party If they need inventory to sell to owners looking for status of PR VIP.

 

[vv813]

haven't heard anything bout not selling more pr but could it have something to do with titanium level or whatever needing 1.4 mil. to qualify for that level and pr was 1 mil.

 

[Jan M.]

I have to confess to being really, really surprised that the announcement came out today on our Wyndham website. Even though I've said that I thought it was only a matter of time until a new higher VIP level was introduced I didn't think the announcement would come out for at least several more months. And even with those extra two pages that Cyrus24 posted I was still doubtful that an announcement would actually be made today.

However now my inner cat's curiosity is only partially satisfied and will remain that way until all the details are officially announced.

 

[chapjim]

Do you feel hoodwinked?

Hoodwinked isn't the right word. I accept (accept, not like) the May 2017 changes and have changed my way of doing things to try to compensate. I just get tired of the crap.

I find especially annoying all the hyperbole and the way they spin every thing to make it sound like Wyndham's principal concern is the benefits to owners. It is incredible that someone could write this stuff and pitch it to VIP owners -- the ones who have spent the greatest amount of money, been around longest, and best understand the program and what has happened over the years -- and think they will buy it.

 

[Braindead]

but I noticed the mid-week clean and tidy was removed from the Gold benefit.

I’m guessing that’s not a loss of a benefit because Gold Privilege is the current VIP Silver & Silver doesn’t currently have that benefit.

I wonder when the Emerald level will be available.
Why would anyone want to buy today in the 300,000 - 399,000 range without being Emerald & then be forced to buy another 84k points to get any benefits? You would be forced to skip over the Emerald level & go to Privilege Gold.
This could hurt sales not help them short term.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Wyndham fell all over themselves to more effectively enforce the window by making cancel-rebook impossible just a few years ago. This seems astonishingly unlikely to me.

But, I've been wrong before---many times.

I totally hear you and we are all suspending judgment until we see what actually happens. That said, most of the prior changes in 2012 and in 2016/2017 that can easily be categorized as negative were prior to the new CEO coming onboard, who is very customer focused in comparison. He has been personally involved in the VIP changes to date from what I understand. It's his name signed at the bottom of this recent memo. From what people have told me, he takes his job seriously and realizes that it's the owners that matter most, and particularly those of us who are VIP owners and have made a comparatively large investment of our monies when compared to others. I'm holding out hope, call it cautious optimism perhaps, that we'll actually see enhancements to the VIP program as part of this whole process.