Wyndham is closing a handful of legacy resorts - dedicated chart/tracker located in the first post for this unfolding set of events

[Greg G]

I'll validate these assumptions on my upcoming call with Wyndham tomorrow. If anyone has any other outstanding questions that would benefit all impacted owners, please post them here before 1:00pm ET tomorrow.

Can you list the current questions that you have submitted to Wyndham that have not been answered yet?

 

[HitchHiker71]

Can you list the current questions that you have submitted to Wyndham that have not been answered yet?

The short answer is no. I don’t maintain an explicit list. I bring up this thread live on the call - review the OP table for any updates - and then ask any outstanding questions posted in the thread. This is why I ask for questions to be posted into the thread. I’m not aware of any outstanding questions at this time. We may not always get the explicit answers we want, but I share whatever answers I can share here after each call.

The oniy outstanding question I followed up on from the previous call was for timing on the Shawnee HOA meetings, which I posted above and updated in the OP table where appropriate.

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[HitchHiker71]

I think that makes sense. Points deletion at the first of the year and removing contracts from accounts sometime related to the actual sale.

I am still waiting on confirmation on the expectations for this item - more to come soon.

 

[Greg G]

The short answer is no. I don’t maintain an explicit list. I bring up this thread live on the call - review the OP table for any updates - and then ask any outstanding questions posted in the thread. This is why I ask for questions to be posted into the thread. I’m not aware of any outstanding questions at this time. We may not always get the explicit answers we want, but I share whatever answers I can share here after each call.

The oniy outstanding question I followed up on from the previous call was for timing on the Shawnee HOA meetings, which I posted above and updated in the OP table where appropriate.

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Here are the questions I had previously asked if you could ask Wyndham about it in your weekly meetings.

@HitchHiker71 can you ask Wyndham in your next weekly meeting for a copy of the Star Island information presented by Wyndham (or the HOA) in regards to the bankruptcy as well as is there a detailed breakdown of the $6M needed for improvements for Star Island?

@HitchHiker71

Can you possibly ask Wyndham, at your regular meetings, how many Star Island unit owners are in Wyndham points/the Wyndham system that are not part of the bankruptcy, to gauge what % this is of the overall number of units at Star Island.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Here are the questions I had previously asked if you could ask Wyndham about it in your weekly meetings.

The first question is something to be directed to the HOA. If you own there, follow up accordingly.

The second question doesn’t seem to benefit the overall ownership, so I’m not going to pursue answers to questions that don’t meet this criteria, as I’ve previously stated. How does the answer to this question benefit the masses? Think in terms of answers to questions that would be useful to list in the FAQ in the OP that benefit majority of impacted owners. I’m not being difficult here, just setting boundaries as to what I am or am not going to spend time investigating and pursuing on behalf of the majority of impacted owners.

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[Greg G]

The second question doesn’t seem to benefit the overall ownership, so I’m not going to pursue answers to questions that don’t meet this criteria, as I’ve previously stated. How does the answer to this question benefit the masses? Think in terms of answers to questions that would be useful to list in the FAQ in the OP that benefit majority of impacted owners. I’m not being difficult here, just setting boundaries as to what I am or am not going to spend time investigating and pursuing on behalf of the majority of impacted owners.

Well it might be helpful to owners for gauging the likely hood of this happening again at the resort. Regardless of whether it is not something to go into the FAQ.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Well it might be helpful to owners for gauging the likely hood of this happening again at the resort. Regardless of whether it is not something to go into the FAQ.

The likelihood of what happening again at what resort? Wyndham is exiting all Club Wyndham owned HOAs at Star Island already. What is left? If you’re referring to VB that’s a separate HOA and Wyndham doesn’t manage that inventory. With that in mind I’m not sure I understand what you are trying to determine.


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[chapjim]

I am still waiting on confirmation on the expectations for this item - more to come soon.

Thanks! I know you're working it.

 

[comicbookman]

Any new info on timing of refunds of maintenance fees?

 

[Greg G]

The likelihood of what happening again at what resort? Wyndham is exiting all Club Wyndham owned HOAs at Star Island already. What is left? If you’re referring to VB that’s a separate HOA and Wyndham doesn’t manage that inventory. With that in mind I’m not sure I understand what you are trying to determine.


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Questions are
1) How many unit intervals does Wyndham own in the buildings that are not part of the bankruptcy (for each building if possible)?
2) How many unit intervals are in the Wyndham points system at Star Island after the bankruptcy?

Possibly Wyndham might not want to answer either question but can't hurt asking.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Any new info on timing of refunds of maintenance fees?

Asked and answered in the original post here:

https://tugbbs.com/forums/threads/w...s-unfolding-set-of-events.375888/post-3223862

 

[comicbookman]

Asked and answered in the original post here:

https://tugbbs.com/forums/threads/w...s-unfolding-set-of-events.375888/post-3223862

sorry, i missed the edit

 

[steve_solo]

Has anyone had a 2026 reservation at one of the affected properties cancelled automatically?
Or is it possible someone not paying close attention could show up for a 2026 vacation and find out the property was no longer Wyndham?

 

[HitchHiker71]

Has anyone had a 2026 reservation at one of the affected properties cancelled automatically?
Or is it possible someone not paying close attention could show up for a 2026 vacation and find out the property was no longer Wyndham?

Wyndham has literally already reached out directly thousands of owners with 2026 reservations at the impacted resorts and has worked directly with those owners to make alternate arrangements or to cancel the existing reservations as the agreed upon next step.

At some point later this year, any leftover reservations that haven’t already been remediated will be canceled automatically - and the owner would then receive the requisite email cancellation notice.


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[steve_solo]

Wyndham has literally already reached out directly thousands of owners with 2026 reservations at the impacted resorts and has worked directly with those owners to make alternate arrangements or to cancel the existing reservations as the agreed upon next step.

On the summary list at the beginning of this thread the disposition indicates several possibilities.
Is there a difference between "wyndham exit" and "complete exit resort sale"?
And if the exit is partial, then it is possible the reservation won't be cancelled at all?

 

[HitchHiker71]

On the summary list at the beginning of this thread the disposition indicates several possibilities.
Is there a difference between "wyndham exit" and "complete exit resort sale"?
And if the exit is partial, then it is possible the reservation won't be cancelled at all?

Partial exit or Consolidation simply means only a subset of HOAs are impacted. If the reservation is from an impacted HOA - such as one of the impacted HOAs from Edisto Island or Pagosa - then owners will receive follow up calls from Wyndham to make alternate arrangements - and those reservations will be canceled automatically likely around year end regardless.


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[sokrazed1]

I am a weeks owner in a double share at Patriots Place. I also am a weeks based owner at Kingsgate. I do not currently own any points. Any recommendations on whether to take the points offer or to let it go and take a payout after the sale. I have no idea what I can get for my points. Is there a guide/directory?
Also if I don’t convert to points for Patriots place, is there a chance that another timeshare company may take it over and I can still keep the timeshare intact?

 

[chapjim]

I am a weeks owner in a double share at Patriots Place. I also am a weeks based owner at Kingsgate. I do not currently own any points. Any recommendations on whether to take the points offer or to let it go and take a payout after the sale. I have no idea what I can get for my points. Is there a guide/directory?
Also if I don’t convert to points for Patriots place, is there a chance that another timeshare company may take it over and I can still keep the timeshare intact?

There literally is no information that will help you decide whether or not to take the swap to Club Wyndham Access.

For VIP owners, it would be best to take the swap if declining would lower the VIP level or cancel it altogether. Otherwise, you are familiar with your resort and can make as good a guess as anyone.

I am familiar with Patriots' Place but would not hazard a guess about its eventual sale -- when, for how much, alternate use, etc. Also unknown is how many current owners there opt in to the swap. So basically, the numerator and the denominator are both unknown. I would not even entertain the thought of your Wyndham ownership transfering to some other timeshare company.

 

[chapjim]

We checked in to Orlando International at about 5:30 PM, having left Towers on the Grove this morning. Our 2BR unit at Orlando International is larger than the 3BR unit at TOTG (1270-1303 sq.ft. to 1110 - 1251 sq.ft.). It also has much larger closets in both bedrooms, a linen closet, and shelving in the kitchen -- combination cookware storage and pantry. One can imagine living full time in a unit at Orlando International. No way at TOTG.

Orlando International has the exterior appearance of a motel. Three stories with some units totally on the ground floor and some bi-level units on the 2nd and 3rd floors. The interiors are spacious and quite attractive. Our unit has a large screened patio with a door to the grounds and a short walk to the pool, fitness center, etc.

Other than the size of the unit, we liked TOTG a lot. Nice pool area with a large hot tub, lazy river, water slide (closed for the season, I guess), easy beach access, walking distance to a number of restaurants and shops. Parking across the street. A covered space for loading/unloading. Lots of daily activities (thanks Karen and Justice!).

 

[Arimaas]

We checked in to Orlando International at about 5:30 PM, having left Towers on the Grove this morning. Our 2BR unit at Orlando International is larger than the 3BR unit at TOTG (1270-1303 sq.ft. to 1110 - 1251 sq.ft.). It also has much larger closets in both bedrooms, a linen closet, and shelving in the kitchen -- combination cookware storage and pantry. One can imagine living full time in a unit at Orlando International. No way at TOTG.

Orlando International has the exterior appearance of a motel. Three stories with some units totally on the ground floor and some bi-level units on the 2nd and 3rd floors. The interiors are spacious and quite attractive. Our unit has a large screened patio with a door to the grounds and a short walk to the pool, fitness center, etc.

Other than the size of the unit, we liked TOTG a lot. Nice pool area with a large hot tub, lazy river, water slide (closed for the season, I guess), easy beach access, walking distance to a number of restaurants and shops. Parking across the street. A covered space for loading/unloading. Lots of daily activities (thanks Karen and Justice!).

I love TOTG. Supermarket walkable from the hotel, and the restaurant next door (Snookies ?) is pretty good. I have only stayed in oceanfront rooms, but I hear the others have weird layouts.

 

[Arimaas]

There literally is no information that will help you decide whether or not to take the swap to Club Wyndham Access.

For VIP owners, it would be best to take the swap if declining would lower the VIP level or cancel it altogether. Otherwise, you are familiar with your resort and can make as good a guess as anyone.

I am familiar with Patriots' Place but would not hazard a guess about its eventual sale -- when, for how much, alternate use, etc. Also unknown is how many current owners there opt in to the swap. So basically, the numerator and the denominator are both unknown. I would not even entertain the thought of your Wyndham ownership transfering to some other timeshare company.

Should the other owners opting in or out impact the amount the owners that opt out receive ? I assume Wyndham pockets the proceeds from the owners that opted in, meaning the denominator is fixed either way?

 

[HitchHiker71]

Should the other owners opting in or out impact the amount the owners that opt out receive ? I assume Wyndham pockets the proceeds from the owners that opted in, meaning the denominator is fixed either way?

Whether owners opt in or out is irrelevant to the per deeded interval proceeds amount. For every owner that opts in and takes the CWA swap, that deeded interval proceed is simply paid to Wyndham as opposed to the individual owner. In other words, the net sale proceeds are divided up equally among the total number of deeded intervals - and that is the amount each deeded interval will receive - regardless of who owns said interval. This assumes the resort is sold and net proceeds is a positive number of course.


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[Arimaas]

Whether owners opt in or out is irrelevant to the per deeded interval proceeds amount. For every owner that opts in and takes the CWA swap, that deeded interval proceed is simply paid to Wyndham as opposed to the individual owner. In other words, the net sale proceeds are divided up equally among the total number of deeded intervals - and that is the amount each deeded interval will receive - regardless of who owns said interval. This assumes the resort is sold and net proceeds is a positive number of course.


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Right. So just confirming what I assumed ?

 

[afk324]

Are you a fixed week owner? We are fixed week owners, have zero Wyndham points. Have not received anything yet.

Converted fixed week to CW Select