Wyndham is closing a handful of legacy resorts - dedicated chart/tracker located in the first post for this unfolding set of events

[Arimaas]

Yes, I know. But it's 1) the first official thing we'd seen from Wyndham about Shawnee and 2) the fact that it *doesn't* give more information than what was given for FG is quite....odd. Shawnee is a whole different ball of wax than FG; it's more like Edisto in its multiple HOAs, mixture of ownership types, etc. It'll be a lot more complex to unwind that relationship than at FG, and I would have expected a different message to Shawnee owners based on those facts.



There's new and more information here: "around 10 resorts" (not 14 or more) and not only the offer of a possible CWA swap but the possibility to "transfer their current Skyline deed to another property." Well, that's definitely a whole different ball of wax....

I was responded to the image of the Shawnee notice. Not the Skyline Tower email.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

The gloating that these resort closures will create more free resales at others expense.

Literally nobody is doing this.

Not only is nobody doing this, but what, exactly, is the thought process that somehow closing all these resorts leads to more free resales? Wyndham is reducing overall system inventory through these closures, not increasing it. People that owned at these resorts who may have been looking to exit now have an easy way to exit without having to try to put their timeshare on the resale market.

 

[Arimaas]

My guess (and it is only a guess): If you still have a "live" deed/contract in your account after all is said and done, those points will stay there---and that includes if you take advantage of the deed->CWA swap. If, however, you no longer have any ongoing deed/contract, your account will be terminated and you'll lose the deposited points.

I suspect the RCI accounts will be handled the same way.

I also suspect the risk of losing points deposited to RCI is lower, but only because Wyndham is no longer directly involved.

However, what happens if you have multiple deeds? I own three deeds. How does Wyndham know which points form which deed were rolled into the next year? Also, as someone else siad, those points that were rolled, were already paid for in the use year they were rolled. At the time, I owned them and could do as I please with them within the rules of the club. I think they let the rolled points stand regardless of what we do with the effected deeds. Hopefully I'm proved right.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

However, what happens if you have multiple deeds? I own three deeds. How does Wyndham know which points form which deed were rolled into the next year? Also, as someone else siad, those points that were rolled, were already paid for in the use year they were rolled. At the time, I owned them and could do as I please with them within the rules of the club. I think they let the rolled points stand regardless of what we do with the effected deeds. Hopefully I'm proved right.

Yeah, I think that’s what @bnoble was saying as well. So long as you have at least one live deed after all of this, you’re not losing rolled points.

The unknown here is what happens when you have no live deeds as of 1/1/2026 and you’ve rolled points. As I posted earlier, I think people in that situation should prepare for the worst and make alternative plans. Or to put it another way, “hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.” If they get to keep their points, great, but I really think what happens in that situation is unknowable at this time and you don’t want to be caught flat-footed with reservations for a vacation in 2026 that end up getting cancelled.

 

[Roger830]

However, what happens if you have multiple deeds? I own three deeds. How does Wyndham know which points form which deed were rolled into the next year? Also, as someone else siad, those points that were rolled, were already paid for in the use year they were rolled. At the time, I owned them and could do as I please with them within the rules of the club. I think they let the rolled points stand regardless of what we do with the effected deeds. Hopefully I'm proved right.

Quite often I have rolled points late March into the next use year knowing that I would likely use some in the current year 90 days before check-in.

If you still have some housekeeping credit left this year perhaps consider using some of those points this year. If I had a hc left, I would try to book Jamestown or Bentley Brook even though my points to my knowledge aren't affected by a closure.

 

[Arimaas]

Quite often I have rolled points late March into the next use year knowing that I would likely use some in the current year 90 days before check-in.

If you still have some housekeeping credit left this year perhaps consider using some of those points this year. If I had a hc left, I would try to book Jamestown or Bentley Brook even though my points to my knowledge aren't affected by a closure.

I just booked skyline tower for two nights in August just for a quick getaway using about 24k borrowed points from 2026

 

[kaljor]

Wow! This has been a fascinating thread.

I own at Fairfield Bay. I have a fixed week that was converted to points before I bought it. It was an E-Bay purchase, and it was the first time I dipped my toe into the Wyndham world. That was about 10 years ago and I’ve never visited the resort. I bought it for the low initial purchase price, and the Maintenance fee was in the middle of the range.

I don’t really care how this all works out as long as my fees end when the Wyndham association ends. I haven’t received any correspondence from Wyndham or the HOA. If I do, I will post whatever information is provided.

On another note, I will miss Skyline Tower. I’ve stayed there quite a few times and I really like it.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Wow! This has been a fascinating thread.

I own at Fairfield Bay. I have a fixed week that was converted to points before I bought it. It was an E-Bay purchase, and it was the first time I dipped my toe into the Wyndham world. That was about 10 years ago and I’ve never visited the resort. I bought it for the low initial purchase price, and the Maintenance fee was in the middle of the range.

I don’t really care how this all works out as long as my fees end when the Wyndham association ends. I haven’t received any correspondence from Wyndham or the HOA. If I do, I will post whatever information is provided.

On another note, I will miss Skyline Tower. I’ve stayed there quite a few times and I really like it.

Are you going to take the CWA equity swap if offered, or take whatever the sale residuals are?

 

[dsanner106]

id also imagine if these resorts are in as poor a shape (financially)...there wont be an overwhelming number of owners who fight it tooth and nail...

depending on what if anything they are offered.

That is not at all the case, most if not all are in the black and doing well. This is about other issues. Legacy resorts were all built before ADA requirements kicked in and as the
government ramps up requirements every few years, they are forced to retrofit units to be handicap accessible. Although they are just fine financially, major renovations would require loans etc and Wyndham is deciding which will be too much.

 

[CO skier]

However, what happens if you have multiple deeds? I own three deeds. How does Wyndham know which points form which deed were rolled into the next year?

I do not think it matters, because it is just a bucket of resale points and/or a bucket of developer points. Say an owner has three 105k deeds and deposited 210k to the 2026 Use Year, and 2 of the contracts are removed 1/1/2026 and not converted to CWA. The owner would have 105k 2026 Use Year points with ARP and the 210k 2025 points deposited to the 2026 Use Year. It does not matter from which contracts the 210k points were deposited.

 

[geist1223]

I am not a Member of CWA nor do I own a Deed at one of these Resorts. But I do wonder - what happens to the collected but unspent Maintenance Fees for these Resorts? Especially for the Owners of Deeds.

 

[CO skier]

I am not a Member of CWA nor do I own a Deed at one of these Resorts. But I do wonder - what happens to the collected but unspent Maintenance Fees for these Resorts? Especially for the Owners of Deeds.

Any 2026 maintenance fees would be refunded to the owner. The rest is just another asset of the HOA to be distributed with any sales proceeds after all fees and bills have been paid.

 

[Armada]

I own at Fairfield Bay also. Bought a converted week a few years ago and have just used the points. I think my plan will to stick it out and not take CWA points. Any check with a payout >$1 will be a win for me. Actually happy this is happening. Maintenance at FB is up significantly over the last two years.
Only downside I see for me is that pricing may go up on ebay for a replacement contract. I might have to pay $5 for a new contract.

 

[chapjim]

I own at Fairfield Bay also. Bought a converted week a few years ago and have just used the points. I think my plan will to stick it out and not take CWA points. Any check with a payout >$1 will be a win for me. Actually happy this is happening. Maintenance at FB is up significantly over the last two years.
Only downside I see for me is that pricing may go up on ebay for a replacement contract. I might have to pay $5 for a new contract.

aw

 

[kaljor]

Are you going to take the CWA equity swap if offered, or take whatever the sale residuals are?

If equity swap means replacing my Fairfield Bay points with an equal number of CWA points, I would be happy with that. I like the amount of points I have, not too few and not too many. I have no trouble using them each year, and I don't ever seem to want more Wyndham vacations. My uneducated guess though is that I won't have a choice in the final resolution.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

If equity swap means replacing my Fairfield Bay points with an equal number of CWA points, I would be happy with that. I like the amount of points I have, not too few and not too many. I have no trouble using them each year, and I don't ever seem to want more Wyndham vacations. My uneducated guess though is that I won't have a choice in the final resolution.

It seems like you will have a choice, per some of the statements put out by Wyndham.

 

[Jan M.]

I saw this on YouTube and immediately thought this is us in the Wyndham group.

Shout out to TUG Brian and Hitchhiker for their patience in herding this clowder of cats. Yes, that's what a group of cats is called.

 

[ChristopherHM]

Im curious as to the driving factor behind the bidding on this Fairfield Glade resale point listing , currently on eBay.
eBay 154k Fairfield Glade

Currently has 5 bids . Watching FG contracts on eBay over the years and most would end with 0 bids. And facing a Wyndham pullout, What am i missing here .

 

[kaljor]

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In this online society we live in, we often forget to express our appreciation for the online folks who help us navigate our life activities because they're always there without thanks or acknowledgement. For myself, I plead guilty. Add my thanks to those named above and let me add Jan M. , Rick and Cindy, Paxsarah, and Sandi Bo. And in a prior reality here (jk) Ron Parise!

I'm sure there are a lot of names I've forgotten, but to those folks I remembered, kudos to you, and thanks.

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[Sandi Bo]

Im curious as to the driving factor behind the bidding on this Fairfield Glade resale point listing , currently on eBay.
eBay 154k Fairfield Glade

Currently has 5 bids . Watching FG contracts on eBay over the years and most would end with 0 bids. And facing a Wyndham pullout, What am i missing here .

My best guess - they are wanting in on 'the action'. For $27 (or whatever this ends up going for), they get a front row seat so to speak with what is going on with Wyndham, the HOA, etc. And who knows in the end what they end up with? Are they banking on some residual from the sale? All speculation, but it appears whatever happens, the owner will have an option as to what they want (CWA point swap, maybe a deed to a different resort, or the residual). Again, my best guess is they are wasting their time. At this point -- esp for a resort that Wyndham's exit has been confirmed -- I wouldn't expect the sale / transfer to go through.

Also think, for the good of the current owner, they will be better off holding on to it and seeing what Wyndham offers. Likely a good opportunity to exit as gracefully as one might (we can only hope the current owner is aware of what is going on so they can make a sound decision).

 

[CO skier]

Im curious as to the driving factor behind the bidding on this Fairfield Glade resale point listing , currently on eBay.
eBay 154k Fairfield Glade

Currently has 5 bids . Watching FG contracts on eBay over the years and most would end with 0 bids. And facing a Wyndham pullout, What am i missing here .

My guess is that it is someone(s) "in the know" taking a risk that "someday" there "might" be a residual from the sale. I am certain if there was a $399 transfer fee and/or closing costs attached to the auction, there would be no bidding interest.

The Vegas line on this auction close is $155, and I am taking the under, but I think it will be close.

 

[bnoble]

Currently has 5 bids . Watching FG contracts on eBay over the years and most would end with 0 bids. And facing a Wyndham pullout, What am i missing here .

I suspect someone is gambling on the chance of a payout.

 

[paxsarah]

I suspect someone is gambling on the chance of a payout.

And it's a very low stakes gamble (at least at $27). Assume it transfers in December and Wyndham stops charging maintenance fees in January. Maybe you get a couple thousand bucks out of it. Maybe you get $0. Maybe Wyndham prevents the transfer if there's a mechanism to do so. I've spent $27 on stupider stuff (though it's not me lol and I wouldn't bother in this case, too many unknowns for my financially conservative self).

 

[Roger830]

I have been both a buyer and seller on ebay for over 25 years and have found many buyers to be clueless.
If those bidding had a clue they wouldn't show their hand but instead bid in the last few seconds with esnipe or another tool.

I would doubt that they even know that the resort is closing.

 

[Sandi Bo]

And what a shame if the seller ends up paying closing and transfer fees on that. However it lands in the end, the seller of that property is getting burned.


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