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Wyndham is closing a handful of legacy resorts - dedicated chart/tracker located in the first post for this unfolding set of events

That's actually encouraging to hear that the assessments going out now don't include the contracts set to be removed. Do you still see the contract(s) listed in your account? Or are they also gone entirely from your account? I am not making excuses, I am communicating my real world experiences regarding supporting IT billing systems. Don't change the system unless it's absolutely necessary.

As we've repeatedly stated, we're all in complete agreement about the communication failures. You're beating a dead horse here.
Yes, they are all in my account but, as per the screen cap on my annual statement a few posts back, the 154k FG account is gone from that, but it still exists in the program fees.

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So where else am I supposed to beat the dead horse if it’s not an Internet discussion board which is basically what they are for? I guess I can alwyas email the CEO or call and wait on hold for hours.
 
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From the FAQs on Omni Agent Solutions' page for Orlando International:

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Question: How much money will each Member receive from a sale of the Property and when will the funds be paid?

Answer: The amount and timing of distribution of sale proceeds is undetermined at this time. Before any distribution may occur: (i) the Bankruptcy Court would need to authorize a sale of the entire Property, including the interests owned by the Association itself as well as all Members of theAssociation; (ii) a proposed purchaser would need to be identified by the Board of Directors and the offer submitted to the Bankruptcy Court for approval; (iii) the proposed sale would need to be approved by the Bankruptcy Court; (iv) the sale would need to close; and (v) the Bankruptcy Court would need to approve distribution of sale proceeds (and the proceeds of other assets of the Association, such as any balance of reserve funds). Any distribution to Members may also be subject to payment of the costs of sale, administration of the bankruptcy case, and creditors of the Association. Any distribution to Members may be determined by each Member’s percentage of ownership of the Property and may be adjusted based on any outstanding obligations for maintenance fees or special assessments due to the Association. Please check the website in the future for information about any sale of the Property or distribution of proceeds.
END QUOTE

This answer is probably applicable to every resort undergoing transition.
 
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Let's dial down the rhetoric and personal attacks on this thread of late - or despite its overall importance - I will pause this thread for several days to force others to find more productive uses of their time outside of this thread. We have a separate debate thread for a reason - these are all debate oriented posts - please move these types of debates on the finer points of contractual items to the other thread.
 
I'm guessing this is happening now based on a post in one of the Wyndham Facebook groups:
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I've asked if the new amount is just the amount of the program fee (and gave them the math to figure it out) and we'll see if they reply. But it does sound like what an owner might see if they have only one contract at a resort that's closing and didn't take the swap, but was still being billed for the program fee for now.
I am not taking the swap and my December bill was for $15.67 and also from Travel & Leisure. On the statement it is listed as other charges. I own(ed) Fairfield Bay.
 
I am not taking the swap and my December bill was for $15.67 and also from Travel & Leisure. On the statement it is listed as other charges. I own(ed) Fairfield Bay.
Because you are being billed for a program fee based on what your contract would have been.
 
I am not taking the swap and my December bill was for $15.67 and also from Travel & Leisure. On the statement it is listed as other charges. I own(ed) Fairfield Bay.
Sounds exactly like the monthly portion of the resale minimum program fee.
 
Sounds exactly like the monthly portion of the resale minimum program fee.
Yes. Whcih I was trying to say was ridiculous in my last half a dozen posts. That people (including myself) are being charged program fees for what isn’t going to exist.
 
Yes. I believe we pay a month in advance.
IDK if converted fixed week contracts somehow change payment terms, but historically my MF increases don't start billing until January - not December - screenshot of my historical billing directly from the Financial portal from the Wyndham website below for reference - what do others see with this in mind? I'm not aware for my part, of any advance billing.

@Arimaas what do you see in your account's financial portal under Payment History?

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IDK if converted fixed week contracts somehow change payment terms, but historically my MF increases don't start billing until January - not December - screenshot of my historical billing directly from the Financial portal from the Wyndham website below for reference - what do others see with this in mind? I'm not aware for my part, of any advance billing.

@Arimaas what do you see in your account's financial portal under Payment History?

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You are correct, the payment changes in January. My December bill, however, already has the deleted FG MF removed, so that's odd.

And the annual statement for 2026 issued in November shows only my two remaining contracts and the (full as if I still had three contracts) program fees.
 
You are correct, the payment changes in January. My December bill, however, already has the deleted FG MF removed, so that's odd.

And the annual statement for 2026 issued in November shows only my two remaining contracts and the (full as if I still had three contracts) program fees.
So, we won't know for sure until your January billing actually transpires - but best guess - once Wyndham performs whatever back-end processing that will take place come end of month - that your PFs will also adjust prior to your January billing event. Based upon what we just proved with a few minutes of due diligence, this may actually turn out to be a big nothing burger if what I am surmising comes to bear, but let's see what comes to transpire in the weeks ahead. Let's hope for all our sakes, I'm right.
 
So, we won't know for sure until your January billing actually transpires - but best guess - once Wyndham performs whatever back-end processing that will take place come end of month - that your PFs will also adjust prior to your January billing event. Based upon what we just proved with a few minutes of due diligence, this may actually turn out to be a big nothing burger if what I am surmising comes to bear, but let's see what comes to transpire in the weeks ahead. Let's hope for all our sakes, I'm right.
I agree. Let's hope.

But this still leaves this unanswered, (not that I am complaining about a win from Wyndham in my favor), why no MFs in December for my poof FG 154K points? I was supposed to pay them until the end of 2025, no? .
 
I agree. Let's hope.

But this still leaves this unanswered, (not that I am complaining about a win from Wyndham in my favor), why no MFs in December for my poof FG 154K points? I was supposed to pay them until the end of 2025, no? .
Where do you see that your Dec-2025 MFs changed? Did the payment already debit and was lower? If not, check your Dec-2025 statement for your account under Statement History - mine shows as the same amount as for every other month in 2025 for example.
 
Alright, we got a lot going on, so let me try to get this right. Here is December's bill ($232.88). About $80 less than November's bill ($314.23). Also, it appears that December's bill is about $20 different than what the annual statement says fees will be for 2026. I'm not sure where they got $232 from, because with the correct program fees, my monthly charges should be about $242. I'd love to say let's just trust them to figure it out, but, well, ya. Also, I don't know why it's changing in December as opposed to January.


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Alright, we got a lot going on, so let me try to get this right. Here is December's bill ($232.88). About $80 less than November's bill ($314.23). Also, it appears that December's bill is about $20 different than what the annual statement says fees will be for 2026. I'm not sure where they got $232 from, because with the correct program fees, my monthly charges should be about $242. I'd love to say let's just trust them to figure it out, but, well, ya. Also, I don't know why it's changing in December as opposed to January.


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Hmmm. Not sure what to say here - but you do own converted fixed week contracts and one of your contracts is set to be removed - so that may explain why you're seeing differences when compared to someone like me who is not impacted by these actions in any way. Hopefully we can get a few others to take a look at their billing portal and provide screenshots for comparison to see if what you're seeing is similar or different.
 
My Paymentus has been useless since 2023 when I had another resale contract added, it completely wiped everything out and they cant seem to fix it, the autopay for MF still works so I dont want to mess with it anymore, I just hope I never need any historical info out of it
 
Here is my 2026 Assessment. I have two FB contracts (308k) going away. I pay on the 1st of the month and my payment amount was the same in Dec as all the other months in 2025.

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Here is my 2026 Assessment. I have two FB contracts (308k) going away. I pay on the 1st of the month and my payment amount was the same in Dec as all the other months in 2025.

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Interesting - that doesn't align with @Arimaas then. Hopefully we get a few more folks who can post their assessment and their actual payments as well.
 
It does align, however, that the program fees are still included on the annual, despite the MFs and the contracts are not.
I apologize. My worldmark is also included in the account summary and I was looking at its monthly payments. I have been paying my CW once a year. Please ignore my comment about the monthly payment being the same. I do share the concern about the program fee still being applied to the points.
 
I apologize. My worldmark is also included in the account summary and I was looking at its monthly payments. I have been paying my CW once a year. Please ignore my comment about the monthly payment being the same. I do share the concern about the program fee still being applied to the points.
If you're paying CW once a year - does that mean you own a fixed week?
 
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