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It looks like they are still designing websites like they are in the early 2000s.
 

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dioxide, are you hinting that Wyndham may not have the best IT team in the business. LOL
I think so! The club Wyndham site just kind of sucks now. I used to love the 2007 site, but every "upgrade" just makes it all worse. WorldMark has always had a great site, easy to maneuver. I am sure Wyndham can ruin it.
 

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I think so! The club Wyndham site just kind of sucks now. I used to love the 2007 site, but every "upgrade" just makes it all worse. WorldMark has always had a great site, easy to maneuver. I am sure Wyndham can ruin it.

That is EXACTLY what I am worried about. It is not fancy but works pretty good and is mostly very sold. You can always do searches and booking without an issues.

It has been always missing features like setting or booking Waitlists, checking credit exp date inside reservations, modify existing reservations.

It used to be you always had to call to change name on reservations. After adding GC and fees, now you can do it yourself.
 

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Agree with all. Wyndham has delivered new and improved platforms two or three times. Always significantly worse than the older one that was around a long time. They always ask for feedback, which I have given online and at owner updates. Clearly, many other owners have also complained. Then they try to fix the problems with minimal results. They are beyond tone deaf. Worldmark has a number of useful features that owners can use that make it's site superior to Club Wyndham even though the web site is old fashioned and crude. Let's hope they just improve the appearance and functionality and don't change the capabilities.
 

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The new website, is anyone else having problems with it? It displays my reservations as completely blank information, I cannot change a guest certificate online. Owner care does not believe me - I sent them a video with proof but they say they are not "allowed" to watch the video... SO I sent pictures and they said it is still not good enough. What I do know is that they should fire their head of IT, he clearly needs to go. The new website is horrendous, there have been constant errors over the years with the booking system and the new site is WAY worse than the old one... I wonder how much money they spent - Not only that, if you try to call in because so many owners are having similar problems, there are over 2 hour long waits and it has been like this for 5 months now!! I even added a guest name online on the old website, one time it brought me there and the system messed up and swapped names and added it to another reservation and they tried to double charge me and said I was lying, but I took a screen shot and sent it to them so I ended up getting the refund. This guest certificate nonsense is out of control. if you add names online, I highly recommend you to take a VIMEO video or at least a screen shot if there is an error or you will not get your money back.
 

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The new website, is anyone else having problems with it? It displays my reservations as completely blank information, I cannot change a guest certificate online. Owner care does not believe me - I sent them a video with proof but they say they are not "allowed" to watch the video... SO I sent pictures and they said it is still not good enough. What I do know is that they should fire their head of IT, he clearly needs to go. The new website is horrendous, there have been constant errors over the years with the booking system and the new site is WAY worse than the old one... I wonder how much money they spent - Not only that, if you try to call in because so many owners are having similar problems, there are over 2 hour long waits and it has been like this for 5 months now!! I even added a guest name online on the old website, one time it brought me there and the system messed up and swapped names and added it to another reservation and they tried to double charge me and said I was lying, but I took a screen shot and sent it to them so I ended up getting the refund. This guest certificate nonsense is out of control. if you add names online, I highly recommend you to take a VIMEO video or at least a screen shot if there is an error or you will not get your money back.

I agree 100% that the new website sucks.

Bill
 

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The new website, is anyone else having problems with it? It displays my reservations as completely blank information, I cannot change a guest certificate online. Owner care does not believe me - I sent them a video with proof but they say they are not "allowed" to watch the video... SO I sent pictures and they said it is still not good enough. What I do know is that they should fire their head of IT, he clearly needs to go. The new website is horrendous, there have been constant errors over the years with the booking system and the new site is WAY worse than the old one... I wonder how much money they spent - Not only that, if you try to call in because so many owners are having similar problems, there are over 2 hour long waits and it has been like this for 5 months now!! I even added a guest name online on the old website, one time it brought me there and the system messed up and swapped names and added it to another reservation and they tried to double charge me and said I was lying, but I took a screen shot and sent it to them so I ended up getting the refund. This guest certificate nonsense is out of control. if you add names online, I highly recommend you to take a VIMEO video or at least a screen shot if there is an error or you will not get your money back.

Just to clear up a common misconception — the purpose of the new website is not to facilitate members making reservations for vacations they continually pay for with their dues. That’s a safe revenue stream for Wyndham. The purpose of the new website is to market the sales of memberships, which doesn’t really require functionality they were wasting money on in the past — pretty pictures work better for that….
 

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Just to clear up a common misconception — the purpose of the new website is not to facilitate members making reservations for vacations they continually pay for with their dues. That’s a safe revenue stream for Wyndham. The purpose of the new website is to market the sales of memberships, which doesn’t really require functionality they were wasting money on in the past — pretty pictures work better for that….
When do owners stop putting up with the less then expected user experience? Terrible that a company can deliver substandard service and expect to retain customers.
 

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When do owners stop putting up with the less then expected user experience? Terrible that a company can deliver substandard service and expect to retain customers.
You are a captive customer. You have no other option to book your timeshare. This unfortunately isn't like a hotel chain where if Marriott.com isn't working you hop over to Wyndham or Holiday Inn. They have no real competition unless you are willing to sell and buy something else.
 

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Agree with all. Wyndham has delivered new and improved platforms two or three times. Always significantly worse than the older one that was around a long time. They always ask for feedback, which I have given online and at owner updates. Clearly, many other owners have also complained. Then they try to fix the problems with minimal results. They are beyond tone deaf. Worldmark has a number of useful features that owners can use that make it's site superior to Club Wyndham even though the web site is old fashioned and crude. Let's hope they just improve the appearance and functionality and don't change the capabilities.
I have zero hope Worldmarks new and improved website will be any different then the failed Wyndham updates and improved websites. You can bet every user experiance will be less then expected on every upgrade or update.
 

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You are a captive customer. You have no other option to book your timeshare. This unfortunately isn't like a hotel chain where if Marriott.com isn't working you hop over to Wyndham or Holiday Inn. They have no real competition unless you are willing to sell and buy something else.
It is almost by design that they try to push owners out. If owners have a easy exit ( certified exit) this creates free inventory to sell to the next generation at a hefty profit. Makes perfect "cents"!
 

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I can't even get to the old website, it redirects me every time.
 

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Just got the following response concerning my complaints about the new WEB Site. By the way my name is Tom or Thomas.

Hello David,

Thank you for taking the time to contact the WorldMark Board of Directors. In my position with Owner Resolutions I work with the Board and have been asked to respond to your concerns. The Board of Directors positions are voluntary and, as such, Board members are unable to personally respond to the vast number of emails received. I assure you that your concerns have been recorded and are taken to heart.

I’m sorry for any frustrations experienced with the updated website. Updates to the owner website were made as part of an ongoing commitment to maximize the ownership and vacation planning experience of owners, taking into account input and insights from owner focus groups over the past several months. Please visit https://worldmark.wyndhamdestinations.com/us/en/resorts/news/2021/navigate-your-website to find helpful videos on navigating your new website.

Your feedback is valuable, and we are always glad to understand our opportunities for growth and improvement. We appreciate any suggestions you may have to help provide a better experience for you in the future. I have recorded your concerns in our case reporting system documenting your feedback for the Board of Directors and WorldMark Management. Your case number for reference is CDCR-188655822.

Please know that as a Club, WorldMark remains fully committed to uphold our hospitality with ‘H.E.A.R.T.’ promise to you, our valued owners. If you have any further questions or concerns that we should be aware of, please do not hesitate to contact Owner Resolutions at 800-457-0103. We are available Monday – Friday from 6 am to 7 pm PST & Saturday – Sunday from 6 am to 5 pm PST.

Thank you,

Yvonne R.
Owner Strategy Specialist & Vacation Fanatic – WorldMark by Wyndham

--Original Message--
From: geisttap@comcast.net
Date: 04/18/2022 09:52 AM
To: managers@worldmarktheclub.com
Subject: Contact the WorldMark Board of Directors

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________________________________

First Name: Thomas
Last Name:
Owner
Phone Number:
Email:
Comments: The new Site is horrible and so much harder to try and use than the previous site. Wyndham has the worse IT/IS Division in the World. I use many Online Web Pages for Travel. This is the worse Site I have ever encountered in over 25 years. I now understand all the complaints I have read Online by Wyndham Owners for the past 5 or 6 years.

Does the Worldmark BOD care so little for Worldmark Owners that they allow this to continue? We do not need fancy pictures we need simple functionality. Like the Old Site. Why not throw thie horrible Web Site in the trash and simply bring back the old Site.

Trying to make a simple 1 or 2 week Reservation in a specific size of Unit at a specific Resort is like trying to pull Hens Teeth.

But as I said above the Worldmark BOD cares so little for the average Member. You should all resign in embarrassment.

Worldmark should refuse to pay Wyndham a single penny for this horrible site. From reading Owner to Owner; WMOWNERS.com; TUG; and other sites my opinions are very common and shared by many. Even the Vacation Planning Counselors complain about this site.

Yet nothing is done. RETURN THE OLD SITE.

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Not much help, eh "David?"

Dave
 

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@geist1223, you might want to edit out your full name and owner number. Also your phone number and email address.

@HitchHiker71, I believe he had blocked me a while ago for some reason, but I am concerned — could you notify him or edit those out?
 

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Just got the following response concerning my complaints about the new WEB Site. By the way my name is Tom or Thomas.

Hello David,

Thank you for taking the time to contact the WorldMark Board of Directors. In my position with Owner Resolutions I work with the Board and have been asked to respond to your concerns. The Board of Directors positions are voluntary and, as such, Board members are unable to personally respond to the vast number of emails received. I assure you that your concerns have been recorded and are taken to heart.

I’m sorry for any frustrations experienced with the updated website. Updates to the owner website were made as part of an ongoing commitment to maximize the ownership and vacation planning experience of owners, taking into account input and insights from owner focus groups over the past several months. Please visit https://worldmark.wyndhamdestinations.com/us/en/resorts/news/2021/navigate-your-website to find helpful videos on navigating your new website.

Your feedback is valuable, and we are always glad to understand our opportunities for growth and improvement. We appreciate any suggestions you may have to help provide a better experience for you in the future. I have recorded your concerns in our case reporting system documenting your feedback for the Board of Directors and WorldMark Management. Your case number for reference is CDCR-188655822.

Please know that as a Club, WorldMark remains fully committed to uphold our hospitality with ‘H.E.A.R.T.’ promise to you, our valued owners. If you have any further questions or concerns that we should be aware of, please do not hesitate to contact Owner Resolutions at 800-457-0103. We are available Monday – Friday from 6 am to 7 pm PST & Saturday – Sunday from 6 am to 5 pm PST.

Thank you,

Yvonne R.
Owner Strategy Specialist & Vacation Fanatic – WorldMark by Wyndham

--Original Message--
From: geisttap@comcast.net
Date: 04/18/2022 09:52 AM
To: managers@worldmarktheclub.com
Subject: Contact the WorldMark Board of Directors

This e-mail is from an external source. Use caution when opening attachments or clicking on links.
________________________________

First Name: Thomas
Last Name: Sieg
Owner Number: 00013011469
Phone Number: 5035592272
Email: geisttap@comcast.net
Comments: The new Site is horrible and so much harder to try and use than the previous site. Wyndham has the worse IT/IS Division in the World. I use many Online Web Pages for Travel. This is the worse Site I have ever encountered in over 25 years. I now understand all the complaints I have read Online by Wyndham Owners for the past 5 or 6 years.

Does the Worldmark BOD care so little for Worldmark Owners that they allow this to continue? We do not need fancy pictures we need simple functionality. Like the Old Site. Why not throw thie horrible Web Site in the trash and simply bring back the old Site.

Trying to make a simple 1 or 2 week Reservation in a specific size of Unit at a specific Resort is like trying to pull Hens Teeth.

But as I said above the Worldmark BOD cares so little for the average Member. You should all resign in embarrassment.

Worldmark should refuse to pay Wyndham a single penny for this horrible site. From reading Owner to Owner; WMOWNERS.com; TUG; and other sites my opinions are very common and shared by many. Even the Vacation Planning Counselors complain about this site.

Yet nothing is done. RETURN THE OLD SITE.

This email message (including all attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information, or may otherwise be protected by work product or other legal rules. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Unless otherwise indicated in the body of this email, nothing in this communication is intended to operate as an electronic signature and this transmission cannot be used to form, document, or authenticate a contract. Wyndham Destinations, Inc., and/or its affiliates may monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, including the content of emails and attachments, for security, legal compliance, training, quality assurance and other purposes.

The sender believes that this email and any attachments were free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, malicious code and/or other contaminants when sent. Email transmissions cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free, so this message and its attachments could have been infected, corrupted or made incomplete during transmission. By reading the message and opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full responsibility for any viruses or other defects that may arise, and for taking remedial action relating to such viruses and other defects. Neither Wyndham Destinations, Inc., nor any of its affiliated entities is liable for any loss or damage arising in any way from, or for errors or omissions in the contents of, this message or its attachments.

You might want to edit your membership number and email address.

Bill
 

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I'm getting the hang of the new web site. I did like the map on the other website. It was useful to see where I could wander for bonus time.

Bill
 

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The survey that came up today while on the new site was the following, and here was my response:

This is so unimportant. you are losing current owners respect which equates to no more purchases, with an unfriendly and nonfunctional website and bothersome sales agents and you are worried about a font.

I have request to owner support to add the co owner, my husband, to our website account and 54 days later still not done. Worry about that.

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Does anyone here know how I get a copy of my reservations emailed to me from the new website? I am travelling to Seattle this weekend and I 100% will not go to an owner's update. Since I usually stay at the Canadian resorts I don't have to have a strategy for how to avoid the sales sharks. I am however very good at telling them no.
 
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