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Why the complaining about MF and Exiting?

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You realize this thread is over 5yrs old? I agree they USED to auction them--- cuz i bought a few like that--- but that changed after covid. Wish they still did tbh...
They still have to use auctions. Nothing has changed with how DVC resorts are owned in the last five years (except for CFW). However, even with CFW, I understand the points being sold are still deeded, but they are deeded as points or interests instead of a fraction of a specific unit.
 
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Yes, I've heard about the 'point stealing' (for lack of better term), so that's why I'm pushing this resale contract I have an offer on so hard.....I do think it helps that the contract is an April Use Year--so hopefully we close/transfer by March(ish) of 2025. 300k points is ALOT to give away if this drags past June, and they steal them!!

As for credit--I had bad credit as a kid--and I'll fight tooth-and-nail to not let that happen ever again. Its nice to know if you *must* apply for something, there is zero worry you will get approved. The key is not applying so you don't get tempted with credit, lol.

IIRC it’s the first six months of the use year for the contract in scope, so if the contract use year starts on 4/1/2025 - then as long as the contract transfers before 10/1/2025 - you should receive the 2025 current use year points, only if it doesn't transfer until after 10/1/2025 would what @Sandi Bo outlined become an issue. There's no way it's going to take almost 11 months to transfer (assuming you have already started the acquisition process as of today), which is why I didn't mention this issue previously. The only way this would potentially become an issue is if Wyndham decided to alter the use year during the resale contract transfer back to calendar year use year, in which case the drop dead date would be 6/31/2025 to get the transfer completed - at least in theory - which again - if you're starting now - shouldn't be an issue.
 
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IIRC it’s the first six months of the use year for the contract in scope, so if the contract use year starts on 4/1/2025 - then as long as the contract transfers before 10/1/2025 - you should receive the 2025 current use year points, only if it doesn't transfer until after 10/1/2025 would what @Sandi Bo outlined become an issue. There's no way it's going to take almost 11 months to transfer (assuming you have already started the acquisition process as of today), which is why I didn't mention this issue previously. The only way this would potentially become an issue is if Wyndham decided to alter the use year during the resale contract transfer back to calendar year use year, in which case the drop dead date would be 6/31/2025 to get the transfer completed - at least in theory - which again - if you're starting now - shouldn't be an issue.
Yeah, I was just going to jump in to say that Wyndham sometimes "realigns" use years during a resale purchase to January, but even in that instance if OP has an offer in today I'd say they're well north of 99 percent to get the points prior to June of next year. Wyndham is slow, but it's not that slow. I'd guess that if Op has a contract closing & deed recording by the end of November they see points in their account sometime in April, with a slight chance of late March.
 

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Agreed. I never understood people getting worked up over their credit score. Do they seem to think they are a better person if their score is higher?
People get worked up because the credit score is used for so many things like where you could rent, various hiring decisions, and classified background checks etc... Not just the higher borrowing rates (or even ability to get credit)...
 

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People get worked up because the credit score is used for so many things like where you could rent, various hiring decisions, and classified background checks etc... Not just the higher borrowing rates (or even ability to get credit)...
Agreed. Credit score matters for many things outside of the ability to obtain loans and preferential borrowing rates, including many jobs that now check credit (it's a risk to hire someone with bad credit especially in certain verticals like finance for example - but credit checks are increasingly included as part of a hiring decision across various industries outside of finance that would surprise many). For younger folks, credit is often critical since they do not have any ability to pay for large purchases in cash - like homes, cars, furniture, electronics, etc. People who are older may not care as much about credit because they are in a different stage of life, and don't have to figure out how to fund certain purchases because they have the capital to do so without leveraging loans/credit, or have already obtained certain assets at prices much lower than what those assets demand today as a percentage of income.
 

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People get worked up because the credit score is used for so many things like where you could rent, various hiring decisions, and classified background checks etc... Not just the higher borrowing rates (or even ability to get credit)...
Perhaps, but it doesn't take very long for your credit to repair itself with good credit practices. Someone with a growing family could just delay purchasing a home for a few years. They could save up for a larger down payment, then credit score is of lower importance. There are also ways to rent without anyone checking your credit. There are ways to mitigate the issue while they work through rebuilding their credit score.

The fact is, there is no way to guaranty there won't be a credit hit when you default on a timeshare. You just need to balance the costs of default vs. the money saved not paying for a timeshare you don't want.

If the timeshare loan is $30,000, will the costs you mention be more than $30,000 over time? Maybe, maybe not. As for classified background checks. Anyone needing any type of security clearance should not be buying a timeshare on credit. I would also argue that no one should be buying a timeshare on credit, but the industry would collapse if that happened.
 

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Perhaps, but it doesn't take very long for your credit to repair itself with good credit practices. Someone with a growing family could just delay purchasing a home for a few years. They could save up for a larger down payment, then credit score is of lower importance. There are also ways to rent without anyone checking your credit. There are ways to mitigate the issue while they work through rebuilding their credit score.

The fact is, there is no way to guaranty there won't be a credit hit when you default on a timeshare. You just need to balance the costs of default vs. the money saved not paying for a timeshare you don't want.

If the timeshare loan is $30,000, will the costs you mention be more than $30,000 over time? Maybe, maybe not. As for classified background checks. Anyone needing any type of security clearance should not be buying a timeshare on credit. I would also argue that no one should be buying a timeshare on credit, but the industry would collapse if that happened.
I would never tell someone how to spend their money....and I'm a firm believer that everyone needs vacations for family/wellness.....but you are 100% correct about financing a timeshare. I see it on the Disney forums all the time--people taking out $40k loans for DVC. But then again, if it makes them happy, who am I to tell them otherwise......
 
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