Why did I end up with 2 member IDs

[ljmiii]

We have 150 direct points at Poly. We are looking to buy resale points at Animal Kingdom. I was told today that even if both contracts are the same UY (with the same buyers), they will each have a different member #. I hope she was wrong?

Who told you that? (It’s not true).

 

[Baldwin]

Who told you that? (It’s not true).

Thanks. A listing agent at a DVC resale company. Did the rules change in the last year or so? I'd like to give her the benefit of the doubt.

I spoke to another agent this month at a different company about why they had a listing that included 2024 points where they said I wouldn't be able to use those points (because closing would be too late). I asked couldn't those points be banked? The next day the listing showed those points banked into 2025. Are there any recommendations on which companies to use?

 

[TheHolleys87]

A listing agent at a DVC resale company. Did the rules change in the last year or so? I'd like to give her the benefit of the doubt.

No, the rules haven't changed, but oftentimes there is confusion between Membership numbers and Contract numbers. A Contract is for a specific number of points at a specific resort in a specific UY, and when that contract is re-sold it retains those characteristics (although DVC assigns a new number to that Contract). A Membership can contain multiple contracts from multiple resorts, but all the contracts in a single Membership must have the same UY and the exact same owners (exactly the same names, listed and spelled the same way - for instance, if one contract is under wife's maiden name and the other is in her married name, that would put them into two separate Memberships).

We have 150 direct points at Poly. We are looking to buy resale points at Animal Kingdom. I was told today that even if both contracts are the same UY (with the same buyers), they will each have a different member #. I hope she was wrong?

So maybe she was thinking of Contract numbers, which would be different for each of these two contracts, as opposed to your Membership number, under which both Contracts would be found as long as both Contracts have exactly the same owners and same UY.

 

[iftravel]

No, the rules haven't changed, but oftentimes there is confusion between Membership numbers and Contract numbers. A Contract is for a specific number of points at a specific resort in a specific UY, and when that contract is re-sold it retains those characteristics (although DVC assigns a new number to that Contract). A Membership can contain multiple contracts from multiple resorts, but all the contracts in a single Membership must have the same UY and the exact same owners (exactly the same names, listed and spelled the same way - for instance, if one contract is under wife's maiden name and the other is in her married name, that would put them into two separate Memberships).

So maybe she was thinking of Contract numbers, which would be different for each of these two contracts, as opposed to your Membership number, under which both Contracts would be found as long as both Contracts have exactly the same owners and same UY.

So it’s smart enough to know which contracts can be pooled for certain resorts and which cannot at 7month?

 

[TheHolleys87]

So it’s smart enough to know which contracts can be pooled for certain resorts and which cannot at 7month?

Yes, when booking at 11 months and you get to the point of telling it how many points to use from which contracts, it will show only the contracts for the resort you’re booking. At 7 months it will show all the contracts in that membership.

 

[iftravel]

Yes, when booking at 11 months and you get to the point of telling it how many points to use from which contracts, it will show only the contracts for the resort you’re booking. At 7 months it will show all the contracts in that membership.

Yeah but at 7 months, not all points can be pooled for certain resorts, for example Poly. So it knows that as well?

 

[ljmiii]

Yeah but at 7 months, not all points can be pooled for certain resorts, for example Poly. So it knows that as well?

I’m not aware of any limitations for booking Poly at 7 months…it’s one of the ‘Original 14’. But if you’re asking if the website is aware of which points you own are eligible to be used at one of the ‘restricted’ resorts (Riviera and after) the answer is yes.

 

[iftravel]

I’m not aware of any limitations for booking Poly at 7 months…it’s one of the ‘Original 14’. But if you’re asking if the website is aware of which points you own are eligible to be used at one of the ‘restricted’ resorts (Riviera and after) the answer is yes.

yeah I meant the newer reorts. good to know.

 

[TheHolleys87]

Yeah but at 7 months, not all points can be pooled for certain resorts, for example Poly. So it knows that as well?

Yes, it knows, and I guess I misspoke - because if for example you try to book RIV, when you get to the section to choose contracts to use, it won't show any resale contracts (except RIV resale) that can't book RIV. And I think I've read that if none of your contracts can be used to book RIV, you won't even be able to choose RIV to try to book it, but I can't attest to that because all of my contracts can book RIV.

 

[Huskerpaul]

I never see RIV with my resale contract. Same for Disneyland Hotel.

 

[TheHolleys87]

I never see RIV with my resale contract. Same for Disneyland Hotel.

Thanks for the confirmation that the system is smart enough to recognize you can’t book it, so it doesn’t even tempt you to try!

PS I guess you can’t see the Cabins at Ft. Wilderness either.

 

[ljmiii]

Yes, it knows…because if for example you try to book RIV, when you get to the section to choose contracts to use, it won't show any resale contracts (except RIV resale) that can't book RIV….

I jumped on a VGC contract the day the Riviera restrictions were announced and have since happily used it to book into Riviera. We *love* VGC…but don’t get out to DL nearly so much as WDW.

I suppose I should theoretically rent out my VGC points and then rent into WDW…but I’m lazy.

 

[TheHolleys87]

I jumped on a VGC contract the day the Riviera restrictions were announced and have since happily used it to book into Riviera. We *love* VGC…but don’t get out to DL nearly so much as WDW.

So you bought the resale VGC before the restrictions on resale booking RIV took effect? Great timing!

I suppose I should theoretically rent out my VGC points and then rent into WDW…but I’m lazy.

Same here - if we ever decided to use our DVC points on a DCL cruise, I’d probably do the swap thing with one of the brokers who offers it (you rent out your points with them, then they act as your TA and book the cruise with the proceeds), but now that we have a young DGD whose mother loves WDW, I don’t think we’ll ever have enough points for that. She and I are already planning for May 2028!

 

[ljmiii]

So you bought the resale VGC before the restrictions on resale booking RIV took effect? Great timing!

Owning at VGC had been in the back of my mind for a while. We have many Disney loving relatives who live in California and the one time I splurged on a cash stay at the VGC we *loved* visiting DL while staying there so much more than our usual villa at MVC's Newport Coast.

When Disney announced the restrictions at Riviera they gave a date about a week in the future by which signed contracts had to be submitted to DVC for the ROFR process to begin. So I offered full ask for the best one I saw available.

I had 'Disney cash' sitting around because I had just sold BCV intending to buy at Riviera...but have no interest in buying at a resort where an ever increasing share of owners can't use their points anywhere else. So I bought resale at VGC instead.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

We have 150 direct points at Poly. We are looking to buy resale points at Animal Kingdom. I was told today that even if both contracts are the same UY (with the same buyers), they will each have a different member #. I hope she was wrong?

That’s wrong, assuming DVC does the transfer correctly.

 

[jeffh52]

@jeffh52 all of your points (being in the same UY) should be under the same member number. If you have one member number, there’s no need to transfer points.

Your HHI points always have HHI booking windows.
Your VGF points always have VGF booking windows.

Even if you had different UY and different member numbers for each UY, if you transferred HHI points to a member number containing VGF points, the HHI points would retain the HHI booking windows.

Sorry for this late response but thank you, heathpack, that's the info I was looking for about the booking windows .... and thanks to all the others who responded also.