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Why did I end up with 2 member IDs

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DVC at Aulani, DVC at Hilton Head, The Colonies at Williamsburg, and The Grandview at Las Vegas
I had a Hilton Head Aug UY, then added an Aulani Dec UY. Is that why I ended up with 2 member IDs, one for each resort, even though I gave my old member ID to the later tranfer?

Curious how do I combine points to make one reservation then? There is no intuitive way to do it online. Have to call?

If any mouse knows let me know thank you!
 
I had a Hilton Head Aug UY, then added an Aulani Dec UY. Is that why I ended up with 2 member IDs, one for each resort, even though I gave my old member ID to the later tranfer?

Curious how do I combine points to make one reservation then? There is no intuitive way to do it online. Have to call?

If any mouse knows let me know thank you!

You will have a different member number for each use year. That’s just how it is with DVC.
 
You will have a different member number for each use year. That’s just how it is with DVC.
got it. thanks. Can I pool points from differert UYs? but I have to call?
 
got it. thanks. Can I pool points from differert UYs? but I have to call?
You can transfer points from one membership to the other but it’s only once per use year (this is a recent change, they used to not enforce this for internal transfers). You will have to call to do this.

On the plus side, you can now purchase 24 one time use points for **each** membership, so you can buy up to 48 per year now.
 
You can transfer points from one membership to the other but it’s only once per use year (this is a recent change, they used to not enforce this for internal transfers). You will have to call to do this.

On the plus side, you can now purchase 24 one time use points for **each** membership, so you can buy up to 48 per year now.

Not only is it one transfer per year, it’s one transfer in or out. So say you have a 100 pt Jan UY contract and a 100 pt May UY contract. In Feb, you make a 102 pt reservation using the Jan UY points. Your options are to borrow 2 pts within the Jan contract or transfer in 2 pts from the May contract. You decide to do the transfer because of your future intended use of the Jan points.

Now May rolls around and your intent was to make a 198 point reservation using your May contract. Your plan was to use the 98 points from your current UY and 100 borrowed points from a future UY, but the unit type you were intending to reserve is not available and you need another say 25 points to complete the transaction. Based on the number of points you own, in theory you should be able to borrow 25 points from next year’s use in the Jan UY contract and transfer it to the May UY to complete the transaction.

But you can’t do that because you already transferred 2 points out of the Jan UY contract. This was always against the rules but previously if you called DVC and discussed what you wanted to do and it was obvious you’re just a regular person trying to use their points, they’d have done it for you.

Owning multiple UY complicates things (I own three) and generally speaking, it’s easier to use DVC if you stick with one UY.
 
Not only is it one transfer per year, it’s one transfer in or out. So say you have a 100 pt Jan UY contract and a 100 pt May UY contract. In Feb, you make a 102 pt reservation using the Jan UY points. Your options are to borrow 2 pts within the Jan contract or transfer in 2 pts from the May contract. You decide to do the transfer because of your future intended use of the Jan points.

Now May rolls around and your intent was to make a 198 point reservation using your May contract. Your plan was to use the 98 points from your current UY and 100 borrowed points from a future UY, but the unit type you were intending to reserve is not available and you need another say 25 points to complete the transaction. Based on the number of points you own, in theory you should be able to borrow 25 points from next year’s use in the Jan UY contract and transfer it to the May UY to complete the transaction.

But you can’t do that because you already transferred 2 points out of the Jan UY contract. This was always against the rules but previously if you called DVC and discussed what you wanted to do and it was obvious you’re just a regular person trying to use their points, they’d have done it for you.

Owning multiple UY complicates things (I own three) and generally speaking, it’s easier to use DVC if you stick with one UY.
Yeah. When I had multiple use years I would always just transfer all the points from one membership to another. However it was annoying and I eventually sold my diffeeent use years and bought all the same use year. The resale brokers, even the big ones, don’t seem to understand the nuance enough to explain it to buyers on the front end. My resale broker advised me to make sure it was the exact same name on the deeds to make sure I didn’t end up with two memberships while completely ignoring I had different use years.
 
Not only is it one transfer per year, it’s one transfer in or out. So say you have a 100 pt Jan UY contract and a 100 pt May UY contract. In Feb, you make a 102 pt reservation using the Jan UY points. Your options are to borrow 2 pts within the Jan contract or transfer in 2 pts from the May contract. You decide to do the transfer because of your future intended use of the Jan points.

Now May rolls around and your intent was to make a 198 point reservation using your May contract. Your plan was to use the 98 points from your current UY and 100 borrowed points from a future UY, but the unit type you were intending to reserve is not available and you need another say 25 points to complete the transaction. Based on the number of points you own, in theory you should be able to borrow 25 points from next year’s use in the Jan UY contract and transfer it to the May UY to complete the transaction.

But you can’t do that because you already transferred 2 points out of the Jan UY contract. This was always against the rules but previously if you called DVC and discussed what you wanted to do and it was obvious you’re just a regular person trying to use their points, they’d have done it for you.

Owning multiple UY complicates things (I own three) and generally speaking, it’s easier to use DVC if you stick with one UY.

Thanks great example. The transfer should be the last resort, and only be used to avoid losing expiring points etc.

In the example above, it’s likely much easier just to buy 2 one-time use points to complete the booking. And if one needs a large amount of points from another membership/UY, my heck would be to split the reservation into two. Don’t know if I can later call DVC to combine two reservations into one but I will do that to avoid transferring points between members IDs.
 
Thanks great example. The transfer should be the last resort, and only be used to avoid losing expiring points etc.

In the example above, it’s likely much easier just to buy 2 one-time use points to complete the booking. And if one needs a large amount of points from another membership/UY, my heck would be to split the reservation into two. Don’t know if I can later call DVC to combine two reservations into one but I will do that to avoid transferring points between members IDs.
You can’t combine reservations from different memberships, however you **can** call DVC and ask that they put a note on the reservation that it is a continuing reservation so you don’t have to change rooms. I’ve done this a few times and never had to switch rooms. (I always also call or go to the front desk at check-in to verify and remind them that it’s a continuing stay). With the new water park perk this has the added bonus that you have an extra “check-in day” to enjoy the water parks for free.
 
Curious how do I combine points to make one reservation then?…
Others wrote the answer, but I would add that I quite intentionally chose different use years for our contracts at three different resorts.

One of the advantages has already been mentioned - that one time use point limits are per membership. Another is that I have the freedom to choose to use points with the best use year for 7 month reservations at other resorts.

So for our planned February 2026 stay in Aulani I’ll be using my Feb use year points. And if for some reason I have to cancel I can do so more or less at the last minute.

That said, if you buy more points at either of the resorts you already own I would recommend buying contracts with the same use year as your current ownership.
 
Thanks great example. The transfer should be the last resort, and only be used to avoid losing expiring points etc.

In the example above, it’s likely much easier just to buy 2 one-time use points to complete the booking. And if one needs a large amount of points from another membership/UY, my heck would be to split the reservation into two. Don’t know if I can later call DVC to combine two reservations into one but I will do that to avoid transferring points between members IDs.

Sometimes you will find that you have already purchased the 24 OTU points you are entitled to buy. ;)

But yes, you are right, I should have listed that as another option.

We are trying to manage 3 UY without a lot of total points, and a pattern of visiting WDW in which we buy an AP and visit multiple times in a year, then take a year or two off. The 3 UY complicates our usage quite a bit and I find that I frequently encounter unexpected "issues". Not insurmountable, and this is a new usage pattern for us compared when we lived in LA, always had an AP, and visited Disneyland in an even pattern throughout every UY- but I need to master the new paradigm and I'm not quite there yet.

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Sometimes you will find that you have already purchased the 24 OTU points you are entitled to buy. ;)

But yes, you are right, I should have listed that as another option.

We are trying to manage 3 UY without a lot of total points, and a pattern of visiting WDW in which we buy an AP and visit multiple times in a year, then take a year or two off. The 3 UY complicates our usage quite a bit and I find that I frequently encounter unexpected "issues". Not insurmountable, and this is a new usage pattern for us compared when we lived in LA, always had an AP, and visited Disneyland in an even pattern throughout every UY- but I need to master the new paradigm and I'm not quite there yet.

S
Your best solution is to buy more!
 
Others wrote the answer, but I would add that I quite intentionally chose different use years for our contracts at three different resorts.

One of the advantages has already been mentioned - that one time use point limits are per membership. Another is that I have the freedom to choose to use points with the best use year for 7 month reservations at other resorts.

So for our planned February 2026 stay in Aulani I’ll be using my Feb use year points. And if for some reason I have to cancel I can do so more or less at the last minute.

That said, if you buy more points at either of the resorts you already own I would recommend buying contracts with the same use year as your current ownership.

Our original interest was in buying VGC because we were living in LA. Before construction, the rumor was that VGC would be offered for sale first to existing DVC owners and that it might sell out before sales opened to the general public. To avoid that possibility, we bought a 25 pt April UY HHI from my cousin (April is the perfect Hilton Head UY). Then VGC sales started in a worldwide economic downturn and my income was partially paid on commission, so we didn't buy direct but around a year later bought an 85 pt resale contract June UY ate VGC. UY didn't matter much to us and we'd use our points for 1-2 night stays and could travel last minute and use the HHI points at VGC too. Managing two UY wasn't too hard.

When we moved to Alabama, I wanted to add some more resale contracts and I think June is a terrible UY for Florida (we'll probably never go in June, July or Aug). I don't hate an April UY for Florida but think Sept or Oct is ideal. So first we bought a 50 pt Apr UY BCV contract. The idea was to add one more small Apr UY contract at Copper Creek but one came up at a good price with an October UY and we bought it.

I actually think October is the ideal Florida UY and if I could change all of my UY to October I would do it. You have fresh points to use over the best IMO season (Oct-Dec) and then points that are still bankable for travel during the second best season (Mar-May) and if you somehow forget to bank you can almost certainly book something in September.

We honestly have "enough" DVC points- at least until we visit more and determine whether we like it still. However @Fido Chuckwagon has convinced me that I also need some BLT points so I'm always on the lookout. At the right price, I would buy a June UY but that is a distant 3rd choice to an Oct UY.

The 3 UY is a PIA at times but it has advantages and there was no way for us to move to the Oct UY without having 3 contracts. So- 3 contracts it is.
 
Our original interest was in buying VGC because we were living in LA. Before construction, the rumor was that VGC would be offered for sale first to existing DVC owners and that it might sell out before sales opened to the general public. To avoid that possibility, we bought a 25 pt April UY HHI from my cousin (April is the perfect Hilton Head UY). Then VGC sales started in a worldwide economic downturn and my income was partially paid on commission, so we didn't buy direct but around a year later bought an 85 pt resale contract June UY ate VGC. UY didn't matter much to us and we'd use our points for 1-2 night stays and could travel last minute and use the HHI points at VGC too. Managing two UY wasn't too hard.

When we moved to Alabama, I wanted to add some more resale contracts and I think June is a terrible UY for Florida (we'll probably never go in June, July or Aug). I don't hate an April UY for Florida but think Sept or Oct is ideal. So first we bought a 50 pt Apr UY BCV contract. The idea was to add one more small Apr UY contract at Copper Creek but one came up at a good price with an October UY and we bought it.

I actually think October is the ideal Florida UY and if I could change all of my UY to October I would do it. You have fresh points to use over the best IMO season (Oct-Dec) and then points that are still bankable for travel during the second best season (Mar-May) and if you somehow forget to bank you can almost certainly book something in September.

We honestly have "enough" DVC points- at least until we visit more and determine whether we like it still. However @Fido Chuckwagon has convinced me that I also need some BLT points so I'm always on the lookout. At the right price, I would buy a June UY but that is a distant 3rd choice to an Oct UY.

The 3 UY is a PIA at times but it has advantages and there was no way for us to move to the Oct UY without having 3 contracts. So- 3 contracts it is.
Yeah, my first HHI contract has 50 points and with this new purchase in a different HY, it doesn’t make it easier to manage. Perhaps I need another one, but add to the same UY as HHI.
 
Man, have been an HHI owner for almost 30 years and feel like a complete idiot not knowing a lot of the stuff being discussed on this thread.

I purchased re-sale points at Grand Floridian several years ago, with the same Feb UY as my HHI. Question I have is, if I use the one time annual transfer to send pts from HHI to GF will those points then have the same booking windows as the GF ones in order to use them to book GF 11 months out? And is there a transfer fee?
 
My husband and I both have different #? I've asked them, can't "merge". We've owned since 1996. I just do all the ressies in his account. Very rarely do they ask to talk to him, and since he is clueless he just says you have permission to talk to my wife.
 
Man, have been an HHI owner for almost 30 years and feel like a complete idiot not knowing a lot of the stuff being discussed on this thread.

I purchased re-sale points at Grand Floridian several years ago, with the same Feb UY as my HHI. Question I have is, if I use the one time annual transfer to send pts from HHI to GF will those points then have the same booking windows as the GF ones in order to use them to book GF 11 months out? And is there a transfer fee?
It sounds like if you had the same UY you should have had the points added to the same account and you would not have to transfer. Was your new VGF titled the same way as HHI (same names on the deed)?
 
It sounds like if you had the same UY you should have had the points added to the same account and you would not have to transfer. Was your new VGF titled the same way as HHI (same names on the deed)?

@jeffh52 all of your points (being in the same UY) should be under the same member number. If you have one member number, there’s no need to transfer points.

Your HHI points always have HHI booking windows.
Your VGF points always have VGF booking windows.

Even if you had different UY and different member numbers for each UY, if you transferred HHI points to a member number containing VGF points, the HHI points would retain the HHI booking windows.
 
Man, have been an HHI owner for almost 30 years and feel like a complete idiot not knowing a lot of the stuff being discussed on this thread.

I purchased re-sale points at Grand Floridian several years ago, with the same Feb UY as my HHI. Question I have is, if I use the one time annual transfer to send pts from HHI to GF will those points then have the same booking windows as the GF ones in order to use them to book GF 11 months out? And is there a transfer fee?
To add, you do not get the 11 month booking window at VGF using HHI points or vice versa.
 
To add, you do not get the 11 month booking window at VGF using HHI points or vice versa.
So really, the only way to combined and use them for a single reservation would be at the 7-month mark.
 
My husband and I both have different #? I've asked them, can't "merge". We've owned since 1996. I just do all the ressies in his account. Very rarely do they ask to talk to him, and since he is clueless he just says you have permission to talk to my wife.
The membership number would apply to your deed, and there’s only one for all the owners on a given deed.

But you and your husband would have separate Club ID numbers, which can’t be merged and apply to you no matter how many deeds you own. To set up your own access to the member website you need your Club ID and a one-time “access code” that MS can give you.

ETA: You probably received your access code years ago, when the member website was first established, and lost it. MS will get you one so you can set up your own login to the website, but you can keep using your husband’s if you want. As far as I can tell, having your own login only means you’ll get the pink circle and Welcome Home! when you tap into a park.
 
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If you end up with different member numbers due to a different use year or having different titling, the contracts functioning completely independently of each other. An advantage of having them under one UY/Member number is you can combine the points at or after the 7 month window in one reservation. An advantage of having different UY is you can target a given time of year for different trips. Each situation has advantages and disadvantages.
 
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@jeffh52 all of your points (being in the same UY) should be under the same member number. If you have one member number, there’s no need to transfer points.

Your HHI points always have HHI booking windows.
Your VGF points always have VGF booking windows.

Even if you had different UY and different member numbers for each UY, if you transferred HHI points to a member number containing VGF points, the HHI points would retain the HHI booking windows.
We have 150 direct points at Poly. We are looking to buy resale points at Animal Kingdom. I was told today that even if both contracts are the same UY (with the same buyers), they will each have a different member #. I hope she was wrong?
 
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