Westin St. John New Villa Ownership Question

[tomandrobin]

IMO I don't think mandatory or voluntary really matters that much on resale for St. John. The resort has such a high trade value that it doesn't seem reasonable to use the Staroptions and I doubt many of the existing owners ever have used the staroptions associated with thier units. Like I mentioned earlier 95% of St John owners either use or rent thier weeks out. As mentioned by others, St John is undervalued for the Staroptions they offer. As far as resale value, its anyone's guess, but I would bet it would retain more of the original cost/value then most other timeshares.

We have been to St John in October, our friends own weeks 42 and 43 (three bedroom) and never have had a problem with storms.

 

[Loriannf]

I think the Hillside (VG) can't be beat

But of course I'm biased, since I own two weeks :whoopie: Some of the Hillside units are only 2-3 years old (the numbers would be buildings 43 and 44) and the second of our two weeks is in one of these units. We've not stayed there yet (we're going in May), but there are some design differences between the two. The "new" unit (4310) had two separate bedrooms upstairs as opposed to two bedrooms separated by pocket doors in the "old" unit (4210). 4310 also had two bathrooms upstairs, a hot tub in one end of the pool, and a very "urban" style/design - lots of black, gray and white. 4210 is decorated in a much more "tropical" style and I think, the pool's bigger since there's no hot tub.

There have been two votes in the last year to add a special assessment for the older units (buildings 41 and 42) to completely redo the kitchens, bathrooms, and perhaps, a wall upstairs to separate the bedrooms. Owners voted in a large majority to approve the assessments, but NOT ENOUGH OWNERS voted, so it was defeated. Hopefully, the issue's not dead and another more organized vote will be taken. I think the company hired to organize the voting, etc. did a poor job with alot of owners getting their proxies only 3 or 4 days before they were due. But that's another story.

If it's extremely important to you which week you want to go, I would look for a resale Hillside. Be advised, however, that good weeks don't often show up. We'd looked for two years for a resale in week 16, adjacent to our week 17, and ended up buying developer week 18 because none were to be found. If you have children, or plan to travel with groups of friends or family, it's really hard to beat the privacy and convenience of the pool villa's courtyards. It's the perfect place to rinse off after the beach, grill in the evening, and entertain.

Scott, feel free to email me if you have any questions.

Lori

 

[Blue Skies]

Thread Hijack

Sorry to hijack this thread, but I am wondering why week 16 is an ultra-premium prime week? What is the significance of this week?

 

[DavidnRobin]

Sorry to hijack this thread, but I am wondering why week 16 is an ultra-premium prime week? What is the significance of this week?

See this thread (post #10 I think) on the Hotel-based section
http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32080

Week 16 is Patriot week - does that mean the other weeks are not Patriots?

 

[DavidnRobin]

IMO I don't think mandatory or voluntary really matters that much on resale for St. John. The resort has such a high trade value that it doesn't seem reasonable to use the Staroptions and I doubt many of the existing owners ever have used the staroptions associated with thier units. Like I mentioned earlier 95% of St John owners either use or rent thier weeks out. As mentioned by others, St John is undervalued for the Staroptions they offer. As far as resale value, its anyone's guess, but I would bet it would retain more of the original cost/value then most other timeshares.

We have been to St John in October, our friends own weeks 42 and 43 (three bedroom) and never have had a problem with storms.

I agree that the V vs. M catagory probably doesn't matter, but until there is more data...
Having a Voluntary week cannot be a positive even though it probably won't matter.

It seems that the VG (Hillside) units are all fixed - does anyone have a float week at VG? As said - having a fixed week/unit has it's obvious benefits - but owner exchanging within a season (8-10 months) is difficult - and VERY difficult for non-owners. If you are not 5* Elite - having to be on a waitlist to get in (and giving up the unit that you want to exchange) is essentially useless. The BV WSJ units will help eleviate this since SVO is limiting the number of fixed weeks.

The original owners of WSJ VG have had the resale value of their weeks increase over time. This is likely due to the limitation of available TS units (and that is is a wonderful resort and STJ is fantastic...) - now that there are going to be more units - I assume that the value of the VG 2Bd units (and perhaps the 3Bd?) will drop now that there are going to be many more 2Bd and 3Bd units. But as pointed out - that only matters if one sells.

The SOs are totally out of line - not sure why that is? Our 2Bd/3Ba TH is only worth 67.1K SOs - the same as a studio at WKORV!?

 

[tomandrobin]

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[tomandrobin]

But of course I'm biased, since I own two weeks :whoopie: Some of the Hillside units are only 2-3 years old (the numbers would be buildings 43 and 44) and the second of our two weeks is in one of these units.

We think the Hillside units are the best also. Every morning we had our tea and coffee, sitting on the balcony with that beautiful view of the bay. The older three bedroom units (VG), we did not like. The newer three bedroom units (VG), we liked very much.

As far as the new phase units, I would have to see them before passing judgement. I know they are conversions of the hotel buildings. From what I recall, they don't have much of a view. But it would definately be a lot more convient to the hotel amenities.

 

[el birdos]

I'd go Hillside if you can wait

Scott, it sounds like you and your wife have an opinion of St. John and the Westin similar to mine and my wife's. A couple of months ago we were ready to bid on a 3 bdrm w/ private pool hillside unit on TUG's classified pages. It was advertised at $42k. It was for week 49. I understood from the buyer that the points were only good for trading within the Starwood system and only for some of their resorts. We didn't care. Like, apparently, 95% of the Westin STJ owners we planned on going back to WSJ every year.

So, I was planning on buying the WSJ unit resale, not caring about the points, and getting involved in a timeshare points system (for more vacations) with a seperate, less expensive resale purchase later.

Unfortunately, the buyer had an offer within a few days and closed on the deal quickly.

So, if you can wait for a 3 bdrm w/ pool to come onto the resale market (and you can outbid me...lol), that's what I would do. $85k is a lot for a timeshare!

PS. It seems like the mf for the hillside was quite a bit less than you have listed above.

 

[scottcara]

Biggest question I am having trouble with being new to Timeshare idea is the ROI

Why would anyone want to spend $50K or $85K plus $1,500 in MF/year when you can either rent a villa (pretty much any week/any season) for a "decent" price of a few thousand dollars/year. It would take an awfully long time to add up to even the "resale" value not to mention that $50K in the bank at 6%% will earn $250/month in interest or $3K/year in interest. Enough to pay for 1/2 the vacation in a 3BR every year and you are not locked into every year and worrying about were to use your "staroptions"

The whole deed thing seems like everyone says on the BBS that buying from the developer loses you money after you sign the paperwork so what's the magic in timesharing if you are better off just renting?

Take $50K and divide it by 10 years of vacations at $5K a piece and the power of money in the future vs. what it's worth today and then coupld the rising MF's and you are looking at least at a 12-15 year ROI and only if you either take a vacation every year (which you can still rent at the Villas on a very regular basis for approx $6K or so)

I am not trying to sound alarms, just trying to convince myself of what makes sense in this whole thing?

Scott

 

[DavidnRobin]

Why would anyone want to spend $50K or $85K plus $1,500 in MF/year when you can either rent a villa (pretty much any week/any season) for a "decent" price of a few thousand dollars/year. It would take an awfully long time to add up to even the "resale" value not to mention that $50K in the bank at 6%% will earn $250/month in interest or $3K/year in interest. Enough to pay for 1/2 the vacation in a 3BR every year and you are not locked into every year and worrying about were to use your "staroptions"

The whole deed thing seems like everyone says on the BBS that buying from the developer loses you money after you sign the paperwork so what's the magic in timesharing if you are better off just renting?

Take $50K and divide it by 10 years of vacations at $5K a piece and the power of money in the future vs. what it's worth today and then coupld the rising MF's and you are looking at least at a 12-15 year ROI and only if you either take a vacation every year (which you can still rent at the Villas on a very regular basis for approx $6K or so)

I am not trying to sound alarms, just trying to convince myself of what makes sense in this whole thing?

Scott

Perhaps this thread should move to back to it's original location where discussing TS ownership is discussed and discussed... and... discussed...


sorry - I couldn't help myself...
:ignore:

 

[stevens397]

This is a price list that I received a number of months ago. The world has gone crazy!



Resort Price Star Options Star Points
Westin St. John- Bay Vista
Three Bedroom
Platinum Plus- 1-18, 51,52 $115,700.00 148,100 76,800
Platinum- 19-33 $70,200.00 95,700 54,000
Gold Plus- 34-50 $50,700.00 81,000 34,500

Two Bedroom Loft
Platinum Plus- 1-18, 51,52 $105,900.00 129,800 60,000
Platinum- 19-33 $63,700.00 81,000 46,000
Gold Plus- 34-50 $45,500.00 67,100 32,000

Two Bedroom
Platinum Plus- 1-18, 51,52 $83,200.00 129,800 60,000
Platinum- 19-33 $53,900.00 81,000 46,000
Gold Plus- 34-50 $37,700.00 67,100 32,000


Westin St. John- Bay Vista (Float Pricing Only)
Three Bedroom
Platinum Plus- 1-18, 51,52 $87,995.00 148,100 76,800
Platinum- 19-33 $52,995.00 95,700 54,000
Gold Plus- 34-50 $37,995.00 81,000 34,500

Two Bedroom Loft
Platinum Plus- 1-18, 51,52 $79,995.00 129,800 60,000
Platinum- 19-33 $47,995.00 81,000 46,000
Gold Plus- 34-50 $33,995.00 67,100 32,000

Two Bedroom
Platinum Plus- 1-18, 51,52 $62,995.00 129,800 60,000
Platinum- 19-33 $39,995.00 81,000 46,000
Gold Plus- 34-50 $27,995.00 67,100 32,000


Westin St. John- Bay Vista (Ultra Premium Prime Wks)
Three Bedroom
Platinum Plus- 7,16,51,52 $127,300.00 148,100 76,800
Gold Plus- 47 $55,800.00 81,000 34,500

Two Bedroom Loft
Platinum Plus- 7,16,51,52 $116,500.00 129,800 60,000
Gold Plus- 47 $50,000.00 67,100 32,000

Two Bedroom
Platinum Plus- 7,16,51,52 $91,500.00 129,800 60,000
Gold Plus- 47 $41,500.00 67,100 32,000



Note: All pricing, incentives, promotions, or any information provided is subject to change without notice unless a contract is pending.

 

[tomandrobin]

Why would anyone want to spend $50K or $85K plus $1,500 in MF/year when you can either rent a villa (pretty much any week/any season) for a "decent" price of a few thousand dollars/year. It would take an awfully long time to add up to even the "resale" value not to mention that $50K in the bank at 6%% will earn $250/month in interest or $3K/year in interest. Enough to pay for 1/2 the vacation in a 3BR every year and you are not locked into every year and worrying about were to use your "staroptions"

The whole deed thing seems like everyone says on the BBS that buying from the developer loses you money after you sign the paperwork so what's the magic in timesharing if you are better off just renting?

Take $50K and divide it by 10 years of vacations at $5K a piece and the power of money in the future vs. what it's worth today and then coupld the rising MF's and you are looking at least at a 12-15 year ROI and only if you either take a vacation every year (which you can still rent at the Villas on a very regular basis for approx $6K or so)


Scott

Let's see...If you buy resale, say week 15 for 50k, MF of $1500. In ten years you have paid $15,000 in MFs. You will probably be able to sell your week for at least the $50k you padin resale. Or you can rent $5K to $8k a year and in ten years paid $50k to $80k with nothing to sell.

So the difference (on the low side) is $35k. It could be alot higher, $65k on the high side.

I know these numbers are not in stone. They do not account for inflation or finding a 3 bedroom resale for $50k. I can only assume that the resale unit will not depreciate any further (I actually think they will go up in ten years).
But I think that overall my outlook is reasonable.

And one last thought, your week is there for you every year. No hassle to find a rental for the week you want, for the price you want.

 

[OCsun]

$55,000 for a timeshare. Wow. I sure hope you paid cash and didnt finance it.

Dear gmarine, I am not sure why you would be concerned, but I did not pay $55,000 for my unit and I would never finance a timeshare. FYI - I know someone who tried to purchase a week #16 from the developer for $55k. The world is full of people who have more money than time and are willing to guarantee a vacation week when and where they want it.

Also, I have been lucky enough to rent my unit every other year for enough rental to cover two years of maintenance fee's and airfare for two people. This unit has literally, afforded us a free vacation every other year with a pretty fair chance of getting all of our investment or even $15-$20k more back if we should sell it. I am feeling very happy about my decision to purchase our WSJ unit. Pam

 

[LauraS93]

Also, I have been lucky enough to rent my unit every other year for enough rental to cover two years of maintenance fee's and airfare for two people. This unit has literally, afforded us a free vacation every other year with a pretty fair chance of getting all of our investment or even $15-$20k more back if we should sell it. I am feeling very happy about my decision to purchase our WSJ unit. Pam

We WSJ owners are a lucky bunch indeed! When we bought back in 1998, I never thought I'd feel as good as I do about the purchase. It turned out to be one of the best decisions I've ever made.

 

[lawren2]

I am jealous of you all. Really. You all bought at a good time. Fixed weeks in the original phase and it has worked well for you.

Back to the OP who in the very first post asked:

I wanted to know if the $85K price tag for a 3BR Villa Starwood Ownership opportunity for the WSJ is a good deal or not. They offer 148,100 Staroptions and additional incentives on the Starpoints with the deal. This is for a "floating" week and a platinum plus purchase.

From what I have interpreted from the posts here, only ONE has admitted to paying as much as $50k for a prime FIXED week. The rest have spent whatever but NONE of you have spent $85k for a FLOAT.

I've watched from afar and have heard how difficult it is to reserve other weeks at WSJ <as 95% use thier weeks>.

The OP has young children and working with school calendars, if not his present issue, will BECOME an issue for years to come.

SO is $85K for a float week platinum plus in the new phase worth it? and will it appreciate in value?

I think not.

 

[Negma]

I love reading this board, I just wish I found it two years and 40K ago. Duke in another post really put it best (and he is the king of accumlating options), it is about choices.
This purchase can clearly be made for less. Never buy these TS's looking for appreciation or investment because that is not what they are, they are the abilty to force yourself ( or make sure) you go on vacation and stay at a nice place. I have seen so many financial analysis that it gives me a headache. Remember a used car will get you to the office too, but a lot of us like new ones.
All of that being said, learning what I have seen on this board and in practice, for 85K you can buy several weeks of vacation that will build memories of a lifetime for a young family.
Sorry for the philosphy, we are in the middle of deciding whether to go for 5* (thank you for the help duke), and we have been debating the true worth of another TS and how we would use the options.

 

[scottcara]

Do you lose money vs. Renting?

It's my first week here and I am sure that I have a lot to learn about TS. Maybe it's good that I bring a fresh perspective to this even though I have to admit that I have not read every single post of the BBS.

I love the WSJ live everyone else. I have been there once and stayed only in the hotel portion in the 2BR traditional suite.

I wanted to deconstruct the arguement about the "forcing yourself to go on vacation every year" discussion b/c to me, just look online and you will see an abundance of 2-3 BR for WSJ for rent for almost any week of the year. Yes you will spend anywhere from 4-7K depending upon the "newness" of the accommodations but it's a single event and not a perpetuity like a traditional TS where you can't actually store anything there and you share it with 51 other families throught the year. The whole fixed week thing seem like checkmate vs. the float option and even that seems tough given that from the other posts, nobody can book there b/c of the demand for the rooms.

On to the finance side, run a compound interest calculator where you don't touch the principal on $50K for 10 years and you get $81,444.73 ...Inflation is running at about 3% therefore for every year you own the timeshare the $50K that you may get in return is only worth about 30% less than what you could buy for that same principal in say 2017...(that's why our parents never understand why our house cost so much compared to their's 30+ years ago, but that's another story ) So what would you rather have the same $50K that can only buy $20K+ of the same thing in the future and still have paid $15K in MF's or... $81K in the bank at 5% interest

I am not an accountant so I am looking for the breakeven and I understand the simplicity of "booking your week" and not having to "worry" about the vacation.

Everyone does these for different reasons but do you wind up breaking even at some point?

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the reason for this post....My 10th wedding anniversary is coming up in August and I wanted to surprise my wife with the TS. Since we got married on Virgin Gorda (Little Dix Bay), the WSJ is so close via ferry from Caneel that we could easily visit that georgous island anytime and have a place to call home once/year.

Thanks,

Scott

 

[scottcara]

Is WSJ a good investment for Rental market

I would like to know if the owners of WSJ could advise me if they make money renting the units year over year?

If the resale is somewhere in the $50K range and the rents are "good" does anyone consider alternating years and making some money at this at a relatively low overall investment risk?

Thanks,

Scott

 

[DavidnRobin]

It's my first week here and I am sure that I have a lot to learn about TS. Maybe it's good that I bring a fresh perspective to this even though I have to admit that I have not read every single post of the BBS.

I love the WSJ live everyone else. I have been there once and stayed only in the hotel portion in the 2BR traditional suite.

Everyone does these for different reasons but do you wind up breaking even at some point?

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the reason for this post....My 10th wedding anniversary is coming up in August and I wanted to surprise my wife with the TS. Since we got married on Virgin Gorda (Little Dix Bay), the WSJ is so close via ferry from Caneel that we could easily visit that georgous island anytime and have a place to call home once/year.

Thanks,

Scott

Hi Scott -
This debate has gone on since I started reading TUG (incl. aschives) - so this discussion/debate has been going on for a while (as I was joking about...)

We own 3 weeks at 3 great SVO resorts (all resale - all SVN Mandatory) - and we paid a premium for getting into WSJ and for OF at WKORV - so that speaks volumes (...that we are both nuts :hysterical: ).

As for our WSJ week - we could sell for more than we paid AND it gives us a cheaper per nite stay at essentially a 5* resort (Caribbean relative) on one of the premier islands in the Caribbean - plus we could rent for more than the MFs (~$1350 - do the math...), but no plans to - in fact we'd like to get another week (but that is another story).

So why are we certified crazys... because the only thing of value that we came away with from our first and only TS spile is that it also FORCES us to take a vacation (and certainly not the appeal of the financial investment).

This may sound weird, but some people in life need to take forced vacations - especially before one can't do it (e.g. lying in a grave...) - because of how our work consumes us (in more ways than one...) and years can go by.

Compare the cost to taking the time off work, cost of plane/taxi/ferry tickets , rental car, clothing (for Robin) - eating out/eating in - sightseeing, buying stuff (again Robin) and activities like sailing/scuba (ok... me), etc.

I don't think that the only cost of lost money worth considering is the TS cost. And certainly there's a value for not lying in your grave wishing you worked harder and took less vacation (or dreaming of what might have been... DMB).

I think it is important that if you are going to go TS - and have the $$ - WSJ can be a great value. If you want to get to 5* Elite (and again have the $$) buy resale and requalify (and repeat).

If you do buy and want the SVO product (there are others...) - I (and others) advise to buy your first TS where you want to go and buy resale (Mandatory).

Hmmm.... that's what we did (ty TUG)

If you want an 'investment' - DNA is doing well :whoopie: {sorry ...kidding SEC...}.

btw - the Ferry to the BVI goes out of Cruz Bay (make sure you bring a passport). Another advantage of WSJ/STJ is that it is a US territory.

Have a great 10th anniversary.
Good Luck with whatever you decide.

 

[tomandrobin]

plus we could rent for more than the MFs.

My friend owns three weeks at WSJ. He rents one of the weeks (3 bedrrom) and uses the other two. The rental covers his MF's for all 3 units.

So why are we certified crazys... because the only thing of value that we came away with from our first and only TS spile is that it also FORCES us to take a vacation (and certainly not the appeal of the financial investment).

This may sound weird, but some people in life need to take forced vacations - especially before one can't do it (e.g. lying in a grave...) - because of how our work consumes us (in more ways than one...) and years can go by.

I will second this...they are crazy!

Actually, it does force you to slow down and smell the roses, take a vacation. I am a certified work-a-holic. I am up at 5am, gym, at work by 7 am, work thru lunch, leave at 5, dinner, then work in the home office. I took one vacation in my 20's (honeymoon), and didn't really started taking "real" breaks until a few years ago. Now that we own timeshares, it helps make me plan trips. Actually its opened a whole new world for me and my wife. We can't wait for our next trip and the next, and so on.

My wife and I went round and round about buying a timeshare. It took three years to convience her. Then one day she sat back and started adding up our costs to St. John, Cancun, Arizona, Jamica, Punta Cana, Key West, etc. and realized would can do this smarter. She actually cuaght my off guard when we bought our Kierland unit. She agreed to do the tour, but did not want to buy (again). We didn't even make it thru touring the units and she told the salesman to give us a 2 bedroom l/o unit platnimum. She then turned to me and asked "If that was ok?". I was dumbfounded, I had been working on her for so long that I didn't know what to say. The salesman saw my puzzled look and ask if we needed to be alone to talk about it.

No regrets two years later. Now I just need to work on the 5* elite! She don't think we need 4 more weeks.

 

[scottcara]

Atlantis and WSJ Timeshare preview package available

Just wanted to give back from those that have been so kind to me on this board, I received an unrelated solicitation from SVO for a preview of either Harborside or WSJ. The prices were as follows

6 Day 5 Nights at Harborside $1,975 1/2-5/30 and $1,475 other times for a 1BR Villa and $100 reward cert

6 Day 5 Nights at WSJ $1,595 1BR and $2,460 2BR with a $150 food cert

With both you have to sit through the 90 min preso.

 

[DavidnRobin]

Just wanted to give back from those that have been so kind to me on this board, I received an unrelated solicitation from SVO for a preview of either Harborside or WSJ. The prices were as follows

6 Day 5 Nights at Harborside $1,975 1/2-5/30 and $1,475 other times for a 1BR Villa and $100 reward cert

6 Day 5 Nights at WSJ $1,595 1BR and $2,460 2BR with a $150 food cert

With both you have to sit through the 90 min preso.

Ours was at the Sheraton Kauai (Poipu), but was only about $560 for 5 nites, including a rental car, and $100 certificate - and did not require a TS presentation, but if you took the TS presentation they gave you another $100 plus a 50% off certificate for a Starwood Hotel stay (rack rate - useless). A great bargain vacation - and we ended up buying and then rescinding...

For WSJ - I am not sure if that is a good price or not to sit thru a TS presentation to get information (and misinformation) that you can get here on TUG. I guess from a rental value it is worth it. Make sure you tell them that they only have 90 minutes and no longer..

 

[tomandrobin]

Ours was at the Sheraton Kauai (Poipu), but was only about $560 for 5 nites, including a rental car, and $100 certificate - and did not require a TS presentation, but if you took the TS presentation they gave you another $100 plus a 50% off certificate for a Starwood Hotel stay (rack rate - useless). A great bargain vacation - and we ended up buying and then rescinding...

For WSJ - I am not sure if that is a good price or not to sit thru a TS presentation to get information (and misinformation) that you can get here on TUG. I guess from a rental value it is worth it. Make sure you tell them that they only have 90 minutes and no longer..

We did the WSJ presentation a few years back. It was the most laid back tour we ever took next to our Disney Vacation Club tour.

 

[kcgriffin]

I own dedicated week 52 2BR, I rent it in the years there are 53 weeks, hence I own Christmas week every few years. I have never had a problem renting for $6K.

Having said that, here is the text of the letter I will be sending to the resort.

Let me begin by telling you that my family and I have greatly enjoyed coming to St. John for over 11 years. I wish I could say the same for our Westin Villa, which is growing increasingly shabby and dirty.

I just wrote a check for over $1400 to cover the maintenance for the two-bedroom unit we own, so I’m not particularly happy. We have just returned from spending our usual week 52 at the Westin, and we have to seriously wonder what you are doing with the over $70K you are collecting from the owners of our villa.

Villa:
• The refrigerator door would not stay closed; food spoiled, frozen food melted.

• The dishwasher rollers came off numerous times, resulting in the inability to properly close the dishwasher easily and resulting in the breakage of 3 glasses.

• Windows are so dirty you can hardly see outside. Again, other Westin owners uniformly had the same complaint.

• The unit was filthy: dead bugs in the light fixtures, elsewhere, and a thick layer of dust on the windowsills in the bathrooms. I reached behind the upstairs dresser for an item and have to wonder if furniture has ever been moved for a thorough deep cleaning.

• The air conditioning would never get below 76 degrees, no matter what you set the thermostat at.

• The midweek linen change resulted in clean linens on half of the beds. No additional soap or shampoo was delivered. Despite two requests, we never received any washcloths.

• The villa deck could use a little more furniture. Two chairs for a unit that sleeps six?

• The wood blinds on the front door are falling apart.

• We were missing a dining room chair; last year there were six, this year five.

• While packing and washing clothes on our last night, our water was turned off at 10:30 pm. No notice was given. The front desk didn’t know why and had to send a maintenance man to check it out. He discovered men working on our pipes; they said we would have water by 6:00 am.

Pool Area:
• The villa pool water is cold, as it has been in past years. Can a heater be installed as suggested in previous years? Also the villa pool deck could use a few high-quality chaise lounges; the 3 cheap chaise lounges are an eye sore and more chaises are needed. All owners we talked with at the top-of-the-hill villas uniformly agree with these points.


I have been involved in the hospitality industry for several years and feel that the Westin St. John always manages to disappoint. I see that the Westin brochure on display in our villa highlights Westin’s superb reputation. This boast is likely relevant to other Westin properties, but certainly not to the Westin St. John. If not for the beauty of the island, we would find another vacation destination.

In closing, we would appreciate details from you on how our large management assessment is being used. We would also like you to share with us your most current plans for the much-needed update of our villa.

Thank you for your consideration.

 

[DavidnRobin]

I own dedicated week 52 2BR, I rent it in the years there are 53 weeks, hence I own Christmas week every few years. I have never had a problem renting for $6K.

Having said that, here is the text of the letter I will be sending to the resort.

,,,

I would like to also write a letter to reierate some of these things - we didn't have any real issues - except the sofa really needs to be replaced. What is the best contact person/address? I know another owner who would also like to contact them about some thing. We own 3410 - what unit do you own?

Perhaps WSJ owners should start a letter writing campaign?