But as you keep reading you'll see that the exchange led as expected to the insinuation that Marriott employs certain TUG posters so that they can pepper TUG with mis/disinformation.
I don’t think it is a question of right and wrong. It is having different objectives. I do not believe there was any disinformation - great information thanks to everyone! It is just good to know going in about bias - especially when you are digging to get to the heart of an issue. If you know incentive you know bias.
So anybody and everybody who doesn't own at GRC but can understand and explain Marriott's perspective in any of these matters is biased in favor of Marriott, because presumably they are employed in some capacity by Marriott?
I disagree 100% with this. From an owner perspective I want people who are financially stable and who pay in advance so that there is no need to come after me for a special assessment that less stable people will default on. There is a big difference between me personally and me as one of thousands of owners.
The only exception IMO is with Special Assessments for one-off events like hurricanes, fires, etc ...
Ok, so now we are getting to some of your actual interests, but interestingly you dodged my question, so what does that tell me about who you are and your motives?
I would be surprised if you disagreed 100 percent with this. The reserve allowance is a best guess. If you owned a true fractional with four others - would you want to pay for your new roof up to 20 years in advance or just pay your portion when you are ready for a roof? Now as ownership gets broader to your point - it makes more sense to have the allowance but herein lies the problem…with the allowance you also lose some visibility as an individual owner. This is my preference but not industry standard - usually special assessment are for unforeseen events.
I think I answered the question. You asked me why I asked about your Marriott affiliation past and present? I think I said that I asked this because I believe understanding bias in a discussion is important. I realize now that this is some kind of off limits sacred cow question not allowed to be asked. I do not feel like you responded - I do not know if you have ever been paid by Marriott in any capacity. I do not expect that you will answer this question. I have never received a paycheck from Marriott. It is ok for us to say that we have a difference of opinion on whether understanding bias in a conversation is important. We should both feel ok that the other person has a right to a different opinion.
I did not say this at all!
I agree most people don’t like special assessments which are usually but not always for surprises. I personally would rather not pay a decade in advance for something just like I don’t want Uncle Sam to make a return on my tax money until it is due. But I am strange in this way - the best practice is a right- sized allowance.
Have I entered an alternate universe on this board? It is not a hard concept to understand that different constituencies have different bias/objectives. Now you could maybe argue an owner and paid Marriott employee both have the same objective and skin in the game. Then why not just come clean with your background? If anything it might give you credibility because of your experience. This has nothing to do with the information which is being shared which is great and I have learned a lot. Everyone - owners, non-owners, board members, Marriott employees, non - Marriott employees should be able to share their opinion.
I said nothing about misinformation/ disinformation. I will try hard not to put words in your mouth - I would appreciate it if you could do the same for me. As I said many times the information has been great and I believe accurate. I appreciate the perspectives.
Why must so many conversations be based on putting others down? I am a real person!!! I will try my best to be respectful of you.
How was I putting you down. i was just pointing out that you quoted yourself….and then you began to argue… presumably with your own post. I thought perhaps you quoted the wrong post and was giving you a heads up so that you could correct it. But thanks for attempting to put me down.
Maybe I took your reply out of context I cannot say only you would know the intent. It makes no sense to me that there is a totally off limits sacred cow question that you cannot ask if someone has or is employed by Marriott on this board. Why not just answer the question? There is all this weirdness around the question with a lot of malintent assigned to the questioner. I suppose this is some unwritten tug policy or something? I like to know people’s backgrounds. It makes me suspicious that this question seems to rile so many feathers. I feel like it has been beaten to death now. I realize I am in a different culture here and I am in search of friendly pastures. I wish everyone well.
You don't really pay for the new roof 20 years in advance. You pay for 5% of it 20 years in advance, then another 5% 19 years in advance, another 5% 18 years out. You get the idea. This is the best way to spread costs across all owners. Why should someone who sells the year before the roof gets put on not also have to pay for that roof while the person buying the year of the roof replacement is covering the costs of the past 20 years? It seems you would prefer to defer the costs so someone else has to pay for them down the road and not you because you might sell before then?
You are missing the point. If you look at the thread you will see that you did indeed quote yourself and then speak critically of yourself saying that you had entered an alternate universe. They were just pointing out politely that you may want to edit that if that was not your intent.
I got a gift card for $200 for attending a sales presentation at Canyon Villas once, other than that nothing. I took the cash bribe instead of the Bonvoy points as I like the Pina Coladas they serve at the pool bar there.
I started this thread as I was a GRC Fractional owner when the notice from MVC came out regarding the dispute they were having about the budget. At that time I had already listed my fractional ownership for sale as we just found ourselves with way more points/weeks than we needed. I disclosed somewhere in this thread that my ownership had eventually sold (and thus I stopped getting any of the updates from the Board or MVC on what was going on). I am still an owner at other MVC (and Vistana and Hilton) resorts, hence my continued general interest.
BTW, insight is never objective. Insight is generally if not always based on experience and intuition and is subjective. The objective information in this circumstance would be things like how much something cost last year and in the past.
Why do you think I am a woman? That is messed up! I noticed you still did not answer the question about ever being paid by Marriott but that is ok. By the way, I like Marriott too - just believe they need a watchdog.
