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The recent silver market

Taking advantage of market inefficiencies is usually a good thing. The metals market have been trained over the last few decades to only think in round weights (round troy ounces; round gram amounts) People don't want odd weights any more. :ponder: The US silver market used to be based on silver coinage that had circulated, and could, in extremis, be used as money again. (i.e. a silver quarter could be used as a quarter again.)

But the generation(s) that grew up with "silver in their silver" are dying off from old age. I was 7 years old when silver was phased out of the coinage here in the US. Younger generations give a blank look at actually having money with intrinsic value. Hence the demand for 90% silver is dropping. I'm starting to buy $10 face a month at these prices. Nostalgia, you might say.

I like paying the least premium for gold or silver. The few bullion coins I have were the result of sales by bullion companies, mostly British Britanias. Generally on gold, I can often find things like British sovereigns or German imperial 20 marks for 2-3% over spot for a little under a quarter ounce and sometimes US Liberty half eagles for 4-5% over spot, also almost a quarter ounce. I also buy at the half ounce level where I have often bought the 1967 Canadian $20 centennial coins which have over a half ounce of gold and are cheaper than the Canadian half ounce Maple Leafs. I also like the US Liberty eagles and the Austrian four ducats. 1/10 ounce bullion coins have even bigger premiums but in that range I can sometimes find British half sovereigns or Austrian or Dutch ducats at 4-6% over spot. Recently I have been buying the Danish 10 knonor, a 1/8 ounce roughly at 3% over spot and that does not even take finding sales, but is the regular price. All of that beats the heck out of the usual premiums of bullion coins and I like the history and character of the coins as well. If I go with a one ounce coin, which I have not as yet, it would be the US Liberty double eagle or the Austrian 1915 100 kronen restrikes. I see the latter from time to time at spot on VIP sales.

One I missed lately by not seeing the email for several hours and when I checked they were already sold out was a VIP sales at spot for Mexican 2 pesos coins, which are about1/20th of an ounce. That is the only time I have ever seen a gold coin that small at spot. There was a limit of 10, but if I had seen the email in time, I would have bought the limit, and also bought the limit in my wife's and son's names.

All of our silver is former circulating coinage, mostly US, but quite a few Canadian silver dollars, too, and some other Canadian circulating silver.
 
Taking advantage of market inefficiencies is usually a good thing. The metals market have been trained over the last few decades to only think in round weights (round troy ounces; round gram amounts) People don't want odd weights any more. :ponder: The US silver market used to be based on silver coinage that had circulated, and could, in extremis, be used as money again. (i.e. a silver quarter could be used as a quarter again.)

But the generation(s) that grew up with "silver in their silver" are dying off from old age. I was 7 years old when silver was phased out of the coinage here in the US. Younger generations give a blank look at actually having money with intrinsic value. Hence the demand for 90% silver is dropping. I'm starting to buy $10 face a month at these prices. Nostalgia, you might say.

I see where the Union Bank of Switzerland, (UBS) one of the world's leading investment banks is calling for silver to reach all time highs, which would be over $50 / ounce.

I like buying monetary coins in either gold or silver rather than bullion coins, and especially when the premiums are less. A good example right now on gold, looking at one of the bullion companies I deal with, a 1/10 ounce US bullion coin, buying just one, has a regular price of $480.35, and ten dollars each less if you buy 20 or more, but they have a regular price on Dutch ducats, a monetary coin that circulated as money up until War World II for $442.35, any quantity, and it contains MORE gold - .1104 ounce. Lower price PLUS more actual gold makes it by far the better deal.

Year to Date results:
Silver UP 54.87%
S&P 500 UP 12.54%
Dow Jones UP 8.34%
 
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I see where the Union Bank of Switzerland, (UBS) one of the world's leading investment banks is calling for silver to reach all time highs, which would be over $50 / ounce.

I like buying monetary coins in either gold or silver rather than bullion coins, and especially when the premiums are less. A good example right now on gold, looking at one of the bullion companies I deal with, a 1/10 ounce US bullion coin, buying just one, has a regular price of $480.35, and ten dollars each less if you buy 20 or more, but they have a regular price on Dutch ducats, a monetary coin that circulated as money up until War World II for $442.35, any quantity, and it contains MORE gold - .1104 ounce. Lower price PLUS more actual gold makes it by far the better deal.

Year to Date results:
Silver UP 54.87%
S&P 500 UP 12.54%
Dow Jones UP 8.34%
With silver just under $47/oz, that's a real courageous call. . .
 
Silver is up to $52.23 as of a few minutes ago, a 3.55% increase in just the few hours of this morning.

Silver is always more volatile than gold, prone to bigger dips and spikes, and that is largely because it is also an industrial metal. It has now been over $50 an ounce for about a week, a new all time high. Where does it go from here is the question. The fundamentals are that demand has significantly exceeded mine supply over the last few years and that is projected to continue. It can take ten years to get a new mine in operation even when a source of ore has been found.

There is a major silver squeeze going on in the London silver market, the world's leading market, where they are running out of silver bars. Unlike the Hunt Brothers famous silver squeeze in 1980, this one does not appear to be orchestrated. If it is, whoever may be doing it seems to be under deep cover. It may be something generated by the market fundamentals of supply and demand, and it appears that heightened demand from India, where citizens have a long history of holding silver and gold to protect their wealth, is a factor. There also seems to be increased investment demand in the west to add to a historic level of industrial demand.


That one has a pay wall, but this one does not and repeats what Bloomberg had to say:

 
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It looks like it's happening. Silver is over $59 per ounce today.

Bill
 
It looks like it's happening. Silver is over $59 per ounce today.

Bill

Yes, I am glad I bought a bunch on the most recent dip. Silver is more and more an industrial metal and the supply / demand dynamics are positive, even if some of that is going into Chinese solar panels.
 
It looks like it's happening. Silver is over $59 per ounce today.

Bill
Yes, I am glad I bought a bunch on the most recent dip. Silver is more and more an industrial metal and the supply / demand dynamics are positive, even if some of that is going into Chinese solar panels.


Wow, silver is back to 1980 levels !!



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Bunky Hunt is smiling down on the silver coin collectors ';)

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Silver price is over $61 today. The gold to silver ratio went below 70 to 1.

Bill
 
Bill, you're killing it with your silver ingots !



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Wouldn't it be funny if I was thinking about cashing out but I lost my treasure map and couldn't find my stash ? It would be like someone losing their crypto drive.

Bill
 
Wouldn't it be funny if I was thinking about cashing out but I lost my treasure map and couldn't find my stash ? It would be like someone losing their crypto drive.

Bill


Right. Like the "gold bugs" in the other threads. If you lose your backyard gold hiding place it could be a problem.
But some future person with a metal detector will become rich
 
Silver price is over $61 today. The gold to silver ratio went below 70 to 1.

Bill

Not surprising. Silver has become an important industrial metal as well as a precious metal, and demand has been outstripping mine supply for years, which is projected to continue. Silver stockpiles are down in both New York and London. Nothing has the electrical conductive properties of silver, and it is being used in lots of new things like AI, EVs, and (sadly) solar panels, as well as various military uses. Indeed multiple countries have named it a critical strategic mineral. The supply and demand factors look like they will stay bullish for the foreseeable future.
 
Bought some $PAAS calls this morning. Closed up 29% from basis.

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Bought some $PAAS calls this morning. Closed up 29% from basis.

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Nice.

Bill
 
Silver broke $66 per ounce today.

Bill
 
Wouldn't it be funny if I was thinking about cashing out but I lost my treasure map and couldn't find my stash ? It would be like someone losing their crypto drive.

Bill
Lost it all in a boating accident ... why? Who's asking?


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Bought some $PAAS calls this morning. Closed up 29% from basis.

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$PAAS calls up 75% in 10 days. Silver up 11%.

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It all depends on your time frame, Brett.

Here is Year to Date 2025:

Silver UP 131.37%
Dow UP 13.11%
S&P UP 15.44%

Glad I bought a bunch of silver when it was in the $20 an ounce range not all that long ago and some more when it was in the $25 range
 
Right. Like the "gold bugs" in the other threads. If you lose your backyard gold hiding place it could be a problem.
But some future person with a metal detector will become rich

Gold? Here is its performance YTD in 2025 (blue line) compared to the S&P 500 (red line), Treasury bonds and Treasury bills.

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