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Craigendarroch Lodges
HGVMax / DEX EU / RCI
Owner's update report, Tuscany Village, Orlando
We are HGVC deed owners in HGVMax. Sebastian was pleasant and showed us a bunch of stuff we didn't know about. It wasn't made clear until the end, but all the interesting stuff was only available to Trust owners - I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
We were also told that many of the features shown were available to us under a trial period ending in August. We were never informed of this. New RCI features (at least new to us - we've never used RCI) were interesting including:
- no point deposit fee,
- no open ended search (or something like that) required anymore, since first availability is shown for number of nights selected, from 2 - 13 nights.
- many other new Hilton programs beyond regular Hilton chains we are used to seeing.
Our offer was initially $40k for 5,500 Trust points EOY, amazingly came down to $13k after our first 'no'. It was presented as $692 MF, but upon questioning it came out this was $692x2. We spoke with another owner at the pool last night that bought that package and they were not under the impression is was x2 (paid annually), but points only EOY - very deceptive. Takes $MF/pt to 0.25 instead 0f closer to 0.13.
Upon our first greeting we explained to Sebastian our last update experience ended abruptly/rudely (we didn't buy then either), and he said that was really in bad taste. Well, that's how this update ended too - we didn't buy, and he didn't come back to say goodbye. Must be a policy, but I just find it rude. So, as many here have speculated, the trust offerings will now be the only way to get the 'must have' features (you won't have access to, unless you buy a retail trust). He also said that Marriott was taking away program privileges from resale deed owners, implying that the same would happen to Hilton resale deed owners. This came up as things unwound near the end (way past our 60 minute timer, which we allowed), and I said we don't really feel the need for more points, and if we do expand it will be via a resale deed purchase.
We are HGVC deed owners in HGVMax. Sebastian was pleasant and showed us a bunch of stuff we didn't know about. It wasn't made clear until the end, but all the interesting stuff was only available to Trust owners - I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
We were also told that many of the features shown were available to us under a trial period ending in August. We were never informed of this. New RCI features (at least new to us - we've never used RCI) were interesting including:
- no point deposit fee,
- no open ended search (or something like that) required anymore, since first availability is shown for number of nights selected, from 2 - 13 nights.
- many other new Hilton programs beyond regular Hilton chains we are used to seeing.
Our offer was initially $40k for 5,500 Trust points EOY, amazingly came down to $13k after our first 'no'. It was presented as $692 MF, but upon questioning it came out this was $692x2. We spoke with another owner at the pool last night that bought that package and they were not under the impression is was x2 (paid annually), but points only EOY - very deceptive. Takes $MF/pt to 0.25 instead 0f closer to 0.13.
Upon our first greeting we explained to Sebastian our last update experience ended abruptly/rudely (we didn't buy then either), and he said that was really in bad taste. Well, that's how this update ended too - we didn't buy, and he didn't come back to say goodbye. Must be a policy, but I just find it rude. So, as many here have speculated, the trust offerings will now be the only way to get the 'must have' features (you won't have access to, unless you buy a retail trust). He also said that Marriott was taking away program privileges from resale deed owners, implying that the same would happen to Hilton resale deed owners. This came up as things unwound near the end (way past our 60 minute timer, which we allowed), and I said we don't really feel the need for more points, and if we do expand it will be via a resale deed purchase.
Sebastian is full of crap. There will always be a reason you need to buy the thing that they are selling that day and now it seems to be the Diamond Trust point product. They have loads of inventory and big margins on it, so they want to sell it. There will also be reasons why what you own just isn't as good as what they are selling today. Most of everything they say is simply not true, fabrications or flat out lies. You can't take much of it all that seriously.