Starwood II Trade Test [Deposits under new rules show 50% fewer units!]

[DeniseM]

Note - please don't copy and paste direct sightings info. from II here - sightings must go on the sightings board. Please, just list the number of resorts you can see, and the number of weeks/units you can see. You may list it by resort if you wish.

I would like to do a Starwood trade test. First I'd like to see what we have deposited that we can use for a test. Here is what I have, and a possible format:

Old rules deposit:
SDO
Lg. 1 bdm.
March 2010 week

New rules deposit:
(This is not actually deposited, but I am able to search with it now, and able to deposit the actual fixed week, because it's a fixed week.)
SVR - Falls
2 bdm.
Fixed week 16
Easter Week 2011

I'm proposing a trade test for all of Hawaii for the next 2 years: Oct. 2009 - Oct. 2011, number of resorts and number of units. It would be a good test because it would include 3 Starwood timeshares. Sorry if this is obvious, but you can search all of Hawaii at once, by choosing the map search function, and then selecting all of Hawaii.

As an example, with both deposits, right now I can see:

8 resorts, including the 3 Starwood resorts
24 weeks/units​

 

[vacationtime1]

Old rules deposit:
SDO
March, 2010 (week 10)
small one bedroom

I see six resorts including the three Starwoods. 21 units altogether.


Old rules deposit:
SBP
June, 2010 (week 26)
small one bedroom

I see nine resorts including the three Starwoods. 25 units altogether.


Old rules deposit:
SBP
June, 2010 (week 26)
two bedroom

I see ten resorts including the three Starwoods. 25 units total.


Note: DW and I have noticed that SBP sees more than SDO as of late.

 

[SDKath]

New rules deposit
SVR Falls
Fixed week 52 - actually deposited
2 bdm.

10 resorts
25 weeks

I see 8 at WKORV, 5 at WPORV (including a 2BR for Jan 1-8th!) and 3 at WKORVN. I see 9 other weeks from random resorts.

That's it! It's with a Week 52 SVR FALLS on line deposited last month (so I guess by the new rules)? Seems very weak. 25 units total.

I see nothing but studios and 1br except the WPORV mentioned above. SIGH.



Katherine

 

[ginsun88]

SBP new rules (used 2009 shell, but not actually deposited Gold Plus ST2 week):

7 resorts, 7 (non-Westin) + 17 (Westin) = 24 weeks
4 KAN studios
8 KAA (7 studios, 1 full 1BR)
5 WPV (1 2BR, 4 1BR)
small 1BR or large 1BR see the same weeks


old rules deposit (replacement week 39 SBP large 1BR, after II closed Starwood account and merged with Marriott account)
15 resorts, 17 (non-Westin) + 17 (Westin) = 34 weeks
4 KAN studios
8 KAA (7 studios, 1 full 1BR)
5 WPV (1 2BR, 4 1BR)

 

[DeniseM]

please post total units/weeks seen - thanks!

 

[lily28]

Old Rule
SDO deposited 1 large bedroom week 51,2009
7 resorts, 24 units include 14 westin units in maui and princeville

New Rule
generic SDO 1 large bedroom SI 2
7 resorts, 19 units (see 4 fewer westin maui and 1 less westin princeville than above deposit

New Rule
generic 2 bedroom vistana resort cascade float 1-52 VI2
14 resorts, 26 units

Vistana 2 bedroom see more resorts than 1 bedroom SDO under new and old rule but see fewer westin units when compared to SDO deposited via old rule (4 less in maui and 1 less in westin princeville, mostly see only studio, rarely 1 bedroom)

 

[DeniseM]

Wow! Amazing what your SVR week sees! I wonder why it sees so many more than my week or Kath's week, which are Easter and New Years?

Ah ha - I see 14/31 now too - there were more weeks deposited this evening!

 

[Captron]

10/09 - 04/11 - as long as this deposit covers
SVV 2BR Wk 15 (old rules)

7 resorts
23 units (inc 2 2BR 1 at WPORV and one at Maui Schooner)

 

[mlsmn]

Old rules deposit:
SDO
Lg. 1 bdm.
Christmas 2011week

34 resorts/ 15 of which are the 3 Westins

2 bedrooms
1 @ Westin Princeville
2 @ Maui Schooner Resort
1 @ Na Pali Kauai Club
1 @ Maui Beach Vacation Club
2 @ Pono Kai
1 @ Cliffs Club

 

[Twinkstarr]

Old Rules Deposit:
Lakeside Terrace 2br week 10 2010

12 resorts, 36 units

Includes 15 *wood units.



Cindy and I have determined there is a different quality filter for LT and SBP, with LT's being higher. I can't see places like Maui Beach or Na Pali.

resorts I'm seeing

Marriott's Ko Olina
Marriott's Maui Ocean
Maui Schooner
Sands of Kahana
Westin Ka'anapali Ocean Resort
Westin Ka'anapali Ocean Resort North
Pono Kai
Pono Kai-Fantasty Timeshare
The Cliffs Club
Westin Princeville Ocaen Resort
The Kona Coast Interval Ownership
The Kona Coast Resort Phase II

 

[WINSLOW]

Sheraton Vistana Resort Fountains II (shell week not deposited)

New Rule
2 bedroom VI2 Gold Plus

I see 20 resorts total - 49 weeks including:

5 weeks - Westin Princeville Ocean Resort Jan 2010
8 weeks - Westin Ka'anapali Ocean Resort Villas Jan 2010
3 weeks - Westin Ka'anapali Ocean Resort North Oct 09 & Jan 2010

I'm seeing silver resorts & no star resorts along with gold resorts

Maui Schooner Resort
The Whaler
The Gardens at West Maui
The Kona Coast Resort Interval Ownership
Pono Kai
The Kona Coast Resort Phase II
Pono Kai-Pacific Fantasy Timesharing
The Cliffs Club
Na Pali Kauai Club Alii Kai II
Sands of Kahana Vacation Club
Kahana Beach Vacation Club
Marriott's Maui Ocean Club
Maui Beach Vacation Club
Maui Banyan Vacation Club
The Cliffs Resort
Ke Nani Kai
Marriott's Ko Olina

 

[krj9999]

New rules, standard 1BR SDO 2009 week (SI1 Platinum):

11 resorts, 35 weeks
Includes all 3 Westins and Marriott Maui and Ko Olina
8 2B units
All except for 2 Ko Olina units are before end of January 2010

 

[Joshadelic]

These are all new rules with the weeks supposedly "assigned" to II.

SDO
small 1br
week 50 (true platinum)
code: SI1 - platinum plus

11 resorts
33 weeks

 

[Joshadelic]

SVV
2br L/O
week 9, floating platinum
code: SV3 - platinum

11 resorts
34 weeks

These weeks were available using both sides of the L/O, using only the small side or using only the larger side...it didn't matter. I saw the exact same weeks all three ways.

 

[Transit]

New rules SVV standard 2 bed
code: SV3 - platinum undeposited
11 resorts 34 units 10/9-10/11

 

[rickandcindy23]

18 resorts, 46 units with 2 bedroom SBP, deposited under the old rules. The thing you need to know about SBP, it pulls the non-rated resorts, like Gardens at West Maui and others I don't see with SDO.

11 resorts, 26 units with large 1 bed SDO, deposited under the old rules.

11 resorts, 26 units with small 1 bed SDO, deposited under the old rules.

 

[Transit]

Reminder :If your counting units be sure to click the drop down box "see more units". I miss-counted the first time.

 

[K2Quick]

Old Rules - Small One Bed SDO Week 12, 2010 - Deposited July 2009

# Resorts 18 / # Units 45

 

[K2Quick]

18 resorts, 46 units with 2 bedroom SBP, deposited under the old rules. The thing you need to know about SBP, it pulls the non-rated resorts, like Gardens at West Maui and others I don't see with SDO.

11 resorts, 26 units with large 1 bed SDO, deposited under the old rules.

11 resorts, 26 units with small 1 bed SDO, deposited under the old rules.

Weird - my SDO pulled almost exactly like your SBP.

 

[mitchandjeanette]

old way -- (my II account)
my deposit -
Sheraton Vistana Resort - VIT
Dec 19 2009 - Dec 26 2009
Week 51
2 bedroom
17 Resorts found / 39 weeks


new way -- (SVN II Act)
Sheraton Vistana Villages - Platinum - SV3
2009 (Float)
2 bedrooms, Sleeps 6
8 Resorts found / 27 weeks

Westin Lagunamar Ocean Resort-Gold Plus - WL4
2009 (Float)
2 bedrooms, Sleeps 6
6 Resorts found / 17 weeks

Westin Lagunamar Ocean Resort-Gold Plus - WL4
2009 (Float)
1 bedroom, Sleeps 4
7 Resorts found / 20 weeks

Westin Lagunamar Ocean Resort-Gold Plus - WL4
2009 (Float)
Efficiency, Sleeps 4
1 Resorts found / 1 week

 

[Troopers]

Can someone explain how to do this test?

 

[SDKath]

I am seeing more today than yesteday. I think it helps to post what we see so here is mine... I am counting 36 today....

 

[aeroflygirl]

SVO Trade Test

I ran this at noon CDT 10/08/09.

New system
SDO small 1BR Gold Plus
8 resorts
27 weeks
Includes
2 WKORV North
8 WKORV
5 WPORV

New system
LT 2BR Gold Plus
8 resorts
19 weeks
Includes
2 WKORV North
4 WKORV
3 WPORV

 

[DeniseM]

Folks - we can post numbers here, but sightings (listing the actual deposits that are available) have to go on the Sightings Board, so I am deleting that from your post.

If you want to list the number of weeks/units you can see at each resort, that's OK, but not the exchange dates.

 

[Transit]

Folks - we can post numbers here, but sightings (listing the actual deposits that are available) have to go on the Sightings Board, so I am deleting that from your post.

If you want to list the number of weeks/units you can see at each resort, that's OK, but not the exchange dates.

Maybe the whole thread shoud go over to the sightings board.