rockhill30
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I'm not a points owner. I own an odd year week and an even year week. Maybe they are just administratively challenged right now.
I'm not a points owner. I own an odd year week and an even year week. Maybe they are just administratively challenged right now.
I'm not a points owner. I own an odd year week and an even year week. Maybe they are just administratively challenged right now.

As I continue to try to sort this out, I posed a series of questions to Mr. Bourassa, PB GM and he has responded as following answers. I will add, each time I have contacted him, he has responded within 24 hours, which is appreciated.I'm not a points owner. I own an odd year week and an even year week. Maybe they are just administratively challenged right now.
I would agree Eric. I've never actually even stayed there and have been an owner since '95. I use it to exchange only so I should be exempt too!Sorry to butt in again. If you find my posts distracting, let me know.
I do not understand the logic of who received the special assessment. His reply indicated that certain owners were not subject to it, since they just purchased. How does that matter?
At the end of the day, every owner is a member of a non-profit corporation. You cannot treat members differently. The special assessment should have been levied on all registered owners based on the effective date of the assessment.
I also would ask for a detailed break-down on special assessment, and if the BoD is going to initiate foreclosure proceedings on those units who are in arrears on m/f . Specifically the developer inventory.
Finley,
We received the special assessment on Monday. I feel very fortunate to have found this thread. I have read through all the documentation provided to us when we bought in 98. We are concerned about whether we are becoming victims of poor management.
We appreciate the time and effort you have already spent.
We would like to support you by sending a letter to the AG.
I have a good idea of what points I need to make, but would appreciate it, if I could see a copy of your letter.
I want to get this done ASAP. I need help...Eric: There is no logic to any of this, which is the most upsetting part of it. Assessing some owners and not others? Ridiculous.
Several different entities owning or managing Pollard Brook. Ridiculous.
My letter to the Consumer Fraud Office emphasized the various entities: South Mountain LLC, Mountain Lodge, Loon Mountain, InnSeason Resorts, etc., some of which are not even mentioned in my governing documents.
If enough people raise the issue of possible consumer fraud, the office must act.
For those who are thinking of sending a letter to the Consumer Fraud Office, get a copy of Finley's letter and attach it to your letter. Finley sent copies of the governing documents already, so there's no need to send them again.
I completely understand that these type of actions are very difficult. My advice basically was that the first step is to fully understand your rights and the relative obligations of the Developer. The governing documents outline those rights and obligations.
Even with a developer controlled board, a diligent group of owners who fully understand their rights, and take the proper steps to assert them, can be helpful.
If those rights/obligations are not be observed, then following due process to assert those rights can be a relatively low cost way of managing the situtation. Does that mean that the Developer controlled BoD suddenly starts looking out for the owners interests? No.
But it removes the " we did not know about.... " defense that the BoD. It is far to easy for a BoD to do that.
I think putting the BoD on notice that there is group of owners that are diligently reviewing their actions and is aware of their rights, can be a positive influence on the process.
Far to often in these types of cases, people just want to complain about the problems, and do not want to invest the time and energy to understand their rights and to follow the due process that might change the situation. I am not saying that is the case here, just making a general observation.
It starts with simple things, like understanding your right to obtain and review the minutes of BoD meetings, your rights to attend BoD meetings, and your rights to inspect the records of the timeshare. These are the starting points for putting the association on notice that they cannot make decisions unilaterally. And you might be amazed at what you will find.
Just some general food for thought. I am interested in owner advocacy issues, and that is the only reason I bring it up.
Eric and Carolinian: Very good points. I don't think we differ much. The various entities are too numerous to be the triumvirate you mention, Eric, and none of them represent the interests of the timeshare owners. They all represent the interests of Ducharme and Curran, in various ways and forms. Loosely, and perhaps not quite accurately stated, Finley seems to be emphasizing the multiplicity of DEVELOPER entities. I am not only emphasizing that, but also the possibility of fraud. Why are there multiple entities owned or controlled by just two people when one or two would do? Ponzi, Bernie Madoff, and other criminals spring to mind.
Carolinian seems to have hit it on the head and I wish I'd been able to think it through and state it as clearly in my letter as he did in his post. The directors are not showing any fiduciary responsibility to the timeshare owners. Period. The responsible timeshare owners who have owned for years and pay their MFs and believed it when they were told "everything is rosy" are now being asked to pay a special assessment that some owners and the developer are apparently not paying.
So, what is your definition of fraud?
Actually real estate development projects typically have multiple entities involved for a variety of reasons i.e. to limit liability, different equity structures, etc. You may draw a different conclusion.
And it is commonplace for the developer to own the managing entity, and to even have the managing entity be a separate corporation.
I do not think the AG is going to see the corporate structure as evidence of fraud or criminal intent.
You have a similar challenge regarding proving the BoD is violating their fiduciary responsibility. The actions of a non-profit BoD are protected the "business judgement rule". Basically it says that the presumption exists that the actions of the BoD are motivated by their duty to protect the interests of the organization. It essentially puts the burden of proof on party that seeks to challenge a decision of the BoD.
That being said, the fact that only certain members are subject to special assessment is good indicator of a problem. But you would need more information before pressing that case. Their could be a really good reason why the assessment is not being paid by all members. That fact is the starting point of inquiry that needs to be made and I would have all the information before I went to the AG.
Keep in mind that the AG gets complaints from consumers all the time, and they have resource constraints like all government agencies. JMO - but I think you will get further by giving them a complete concise complaint that demonstrates your actions to resolve the problem.
Eric - You are correct in point needing to be succinct and valid in letters to the AG's office. Unfortunatley, I came across much of the additional pieces of information after my the initial letter to the AG's office was sent. I still think there is value in pointing out the conflicts of interest as these companies were developed well after the resurrection of PB. The Board structure is protected by what is clearly stated stated in the Declaration. Although, I cannot believe the State would allow such in a condo document filing as it clearly is not in the interest of the owners. If there are indeed 6000 owners as stated, we need to figure out how to reach as many as possible and get a clear understanding of who was/is being hit. But how on earth do we do that? I've posted here and on the complaints board as well. Where else are folks discussing timeshares? Thoughts????
I'm not a points owner. I own an odd year week and an even year week. Maybe they are just administratively challenged right now.
I think the special assessment is enough for the AG to potentially take action on. Dragging everything else in just obscures the main issue.
I think this is the best forum of discussing these type of issues. You benefit from a wider range of experiences when the discussion is on TUG.
Right now, I do not think you need a large number of owners, but it would not hurt to start laying the groundwork focused on building a list of concerned owners. If the resort has a forum, that might be a starting point. Next would be determining if the by-laws allow you to obtain a list of members.
Right now, I think one owner can do a lot in terms of just gathering information. Mr. Bourassa is providing you with information, and I would work that channel. I would ask pointed questions about the special assessment, who is paying it, how was the amount determined, who is not paying it, etc. One key fact would be what part of the assessment is attributable to non-payment by owners vs non-payment by the developer.
Then, when or if that information source stops flowing, I would exercise my right to the inspect the records of the corporation.
Based on what I determined from those inquiries, I would then probably be sending a letter to the BoD. But that would determine what I learned from my other inquiries.
Eric - You are correct in point needing to be succinct and valid in letters to the AG's office. Unfortunatley, I came across much of the additional pieces of information after my the initial letter to the AG's office was sent. I still think there is value in pointing out the conflicts of interest as these companies were developed well after the resurrection of PB. The Board structure is protected by what is clearly stated stated in the Declaration. Although, I cannot believe the State would allow such in a condo document filing as it clearly is not in the interest of the owners. If there are indeed 6000 owners as stated, we need to figure out how to reach as many as possible and get a clear understanding of who was/is being hit. But how on earth do we do that? I've posted here and on the complaints board as well. Where else are folks discussing timeshares? Thoughts????