Should be condemned [Cocoa Palms, Merged]

[Kauai Kid]

As I've said in previous posts, Kauai business owners are extremely grateful that the time share tourists are still coming. It is the luxury hotels that are really hurting for business and they are having to lay off employees.

I suspect the Kauai business owners have become time-share supporters and will let the county government know how grateful they are.

Since the Maui county government is anti-timeshare I'm sure going to let Maui businesses know we are staying in a timeshare in March.

The Point at Poipu was full in Oct.
Alii Kai II was full in December.

We still consider every trip to the Sandwich Isles to be a blessing that many folks will never experience.

Sterling

 

[Icarus]

I agree with most of what you've said in this post until you got to immigration. You should just delete that part of your post because it is a controvertial distraction from your main point and could explode into an out of control political discussion about the difference between immigration and illegal immigration.

Or just ignore it.

-David

 

[Lazz]

Just took the tour thru the resort last month. The tour guide stated that a developer from Princeville has bought the property and a billion dollar revovation is due to start in 12-18 months. So he said, Hope so.

I heard the same thing on the same tour 4 years ago. Nothing have changed.

http://www.cocopalms.com/

http://www.coco-palms.com/

 

[tfalk]

Having stayed at the Coco Palms on our honeymoon in 1982, I personally wish they would return it to its former splendor. Sadly, I doubt it will ever happen...

Like everything else, it all boils down to 1 thing. Money...

They had an approved plan to rebuild it but tried to push too far and got slapped. They wanted to convert an approved outdoor area (I think it was tennis courts) to an enclosed area (Spa) and the county said no so they scuttled the entire project. Given the current economy, might have been the best thing since anyone who might have bought a unit would have taken a bath...

The 'people' want it returned to a park or something other than a building. Problem is, none of them want to pay for it. The county wants part of the property to be able to finally relieve the traffic congestion. Problem is, they also don't want to pay for it. In the meantime, as long as any upgrades to the property are subject to 'public opinion' or vote, nothing will ever get built there.

 

[DaveNV]

Given its current state of disrepair, I wonder how long it will be before some sort of unknown, mysterious, "accidental" fire happens and the place burns to the ground. Then, since it'd be a public safety matter, the State or County can move in and do as they wish.

Dave

 

[Kauai Kid]

Coco Palms Letter to the Editor

I sent the following email to the Editor of the Garden Isle Newspaper and to members of the Kauai County Council.

We visited your beautiful island of Kauai in 2008 for 4 weeks and have been visiting for over twenty five years. We continue to be overwhelmed by the beauty of the island and the gracious caring folks of the Garden Isle. We spent between four and five thousand dollars on each trip.

It is beyond our comprehension why the county government won't do something about the eye sore of Coco Palms. Hurricane Iniki hit on September 11, 1992 almost 17 years ago.

It would have been condemned any place else in the country.

Bull doze it down, haul away what hasn't been eaten by termites, and let the citizens of Kauai decide what to do with the area.

Charge visitors a $5 fee per airline trip to fiance the costs.

Its awful.

More people might visit if they didn't have to see the decaying ruins of Coco Palms.

Sterling

 

[ricoba]

While I appreciate your desire to keep Kauai beautiful, I am not in favor of adding fees on to airline tickets to do so.

If the taxpayers of Kauai want to fix the place, they should bear the cost.

Just my two cents.

 

[wa.mama]

As I understand it, the Coco Palms story is complex, involving failed development plans, lawsuits, problems with contamination, pedestrian access from development to beach, city ordinances and regulations, etc. In the current environment of slow economic development that currently plagues Kauai, I favor the rumor that the area might be made into a park, and would support a small tax toward that development. I don't, however, want to fund any developer's plan to increase traffic on Kuhio hwy and decrease access to the Wailua beach area.

 

[Kauai Kid]

While I appreciate your desire to keep Kauai beautiful, I am not in favor of adding fees on to airline tickets to do so.

If the taxpayers of Kauai want to fix the place, they should bear the cost.

Just my two cents.

Obviously they taxpayers of Kauai don't want to bear the cost. They haven't since Iniki hit.

Hopefully $5 a ticket wouldn't break any ones wallet. If so, they shouldn't be on Kauai. I as a visitor want to fix the place.

Sterling

 

[california-bighorn]

How about Cabo?

While Sterlings intentions are good, I don't think we should think we are responsible or in a position for "fixing" the world. I'm sure we could all find areas in our own neighborhoods that would benefit from renovation.
But, if we were going to start projects to fix travel desinations, I would start with the abandoned hotel half built in the middle of Cabo San Lucas. What is with that place?

 

[Kauai Kid]

I wonder how many more years it will be before some radical like me will be posting its time to bull doze the failed developments down around Poipu?

At least Coco Palms was extremely successful before Iniki hit.

Sterling

 

[sailingman22]

This discussion reminds me of a similiar issue along the foot path in front of buildings A & B at the Pono Kai resort. We were at the Pono Kai in Dec 2007 and a orange plastic fence was installed where the beach had eroded the sand along the foot path. We arrived again this December and the same fence was up warning people to stay away so I went to the resort registration desk and asked when the repair would be completed. The young lady smiled and said the they hoped to get it repaired in the summer of 2010! The county and state are arguing over who is responsible for the cost of repairs.

So much for public safety.

 

[JeffW]

...The county and state are arguing over who is responsible for the cost of repairs...QUOTE]

Not surprising. Although Hawaii is an expensive place to visit, I never had the impression it was a wealthy state. I'm sure a lot of resorts think, "It's a state issue, they should pay to fix it", while the state thinks, "the resorts get all those tourist dollars, they can afford to do it."

 

[rifleman69]

This discussion reminds me of a similiar issue along the foot path in front of buildings A & B at the Pono Kai resort. We were at the Pono Kai in Dec 2007 and a orange plastic fence was installed where the beach had eroded the sand along the foot path. We arrived again this December and the same fence was up warning people to stay away so I went to the resort registration desk and asked when the repair would be completed. The young lady smiled and said the they hoped to get it repaired in the summer of 2010! The county and state are arguing over who is responsible for the cost of repairs.

So much for public safety.

Didn't look to be a very good beach regardless, plus with the canal, boat ramp, and the dredgers. Edited to note that you were there in December, which is after my trip in April! That walking/biking path is great though, smart decision by the county.

 

[Kauai Kid]

Response from Kauai County Government re Coco Palms

I received a response from Jay Furfaro regarding condemnation of Coco Palms:

"Condemnation might be a consideration for the State health Department"

Lets hope the state considers it and then acts on it.



Give me the keys to a bull dozer and I'll have it in piles inside a week at no charge.


Sterling

 

[Bob P]

Coco Palms

There may be hope yet! A few good pics here http://www.friendsofcocopalms.org/

 

[DeniseM]

In today's Garden Island News - Coco Palms Granted 3 Year Extension on Permits