Recently purchased Ebay week added to DC program for no additional charge

[siesta]

the marriott advocate is listed as a tug guest. If this "loophole" thread was started in the sightings forum, he would have not seen it. but according to him they were already aware of it.

 

[windje2000]

True - but I didn't say anything about "logging on." I said, "hasn't been back."

MVCI could be lurking off the record if they are using something similar to what is described at LINK and LINK

I would try to be an anonymous lurker on this board if I were MVCI.

 

[iamnotshopgirl]

I do not believe for one New York minute that Marriott is not aware of this problem. I think that Marriott does have people snooping around, "lurking" in the shadows (lol) on these boards and is quite aware of this post as well as others. Sure they do not advertise that fact that they are here but I would certainly bet on it because if you have a going business you would want information on your business plan. Whether or not it has been done deliberately by them to gain more weeks for the DC program I don't know. But this post has been up for several days with what 11 pages of comments and the percieved problem has not been fixed by them leaves me very skeptible if Marriott has not done this on purpose. IMHO with all the tech geniuses on their payroll and all the contacts and subcontractors for tech issues at their beck an call if this issue was not fixed since it was known months ago it would lead me to believe it was done on purpose.

bob

 

[larryallen]

I think Marriott is probably spending tens of thousands of dollars, hacking into the Tug system, to find out everybody's real identities. They are going to mark in their computer system, in the new "Tugger" field, stuff like: "Customer made bad comments about Marriott on Tug so always give them a bad room."

 

[dougp26364]

I think Marriott is probably spending tens of thousands of dollars, hacking into the Tug system, to find out everybody's real identities. They are going to mark in their computer system, in the new "Tugger" field, stuff like: "Customer made bad comments about Marriott on Tug so always give them a bad room."

Is that why there's a black helicopter and strange cars driving by my house, all with the Marriott logo on them?

TUG's a great place but, it's a small drop of water in the ocean. Sometimes I think people over estimate the strength of TUG in the opinion of developers.

TUG's strength lies in it's ability to educate and inform timeshare owners about what they own and how to get the most out of their ownership. To think it's anything more is......well.......:hysterical:

 

[larryallen]

TUG's a great place but, it's a small drop of water in the ocean. Sometimes I think people over estimate the strength of TUG in the opinion of developers.

TUG's strength lies in it's ability to educate and inform timeshare owners about what they own and how to get the most out of their ownership.


I totally agree. Tug is a GREAT place to educate oneself and, at times, help educate others. However, Marriott has bigger fish to fry than to worry about what a very few people are doing.

 

[wdmenke]

Did you ever consider that Marriott may have put that glitch in the software because they want to enroll as many resale weeks as they can, so the availability will be there for the Destination Points members. They may have come to the conclusion that they needed more weeks then were enrolled. However, they didn't want to officially move the June 20, 2010 date, since it would be a disincentive for people to buy Destination Points. Instead if they did it by stealth, hoping present members would figure it out, they could continue to enroll resale weeks that closed after the June 20th deadline. Once they feel they got enough weeks, so the program works smoothly, they will remove the ability to enroll resale weeks that don't meet the criteria.

This sounds like a very plausible explanation, given that Marriott has extended introductory pricing for the new program to midyear. Seems like they may be lacking inventory, and what better place to find it than among current members.

 

[taffy19]

Was I dreaming or did one or more people post in this thread that even when they called Marriott, they were told that their week(s) is eligible? If so, there would not be anything unethical or wrong about enrolling an ineligible week if Marriott accepts it as eligible. Marriott is responsible for policing their own system and making sure their own employees perform the correct actions. What truly would be unethical in my opinion is for Marriott to tell someone that his ineligible week is eligible, enroll the week, send out a confirmation, and then later unenroll the week perhaps after the customer might have already started to make plans on how to use his points.

I do believe that the customer advocate who posted here was probably indeed from Marriott. However, I think they raised more questions than they answered. Worse, I think their solution to the problem which appears to allow the glitch to stay in place and then unenroll customers at some later date after they get around to fixing the glitch is just downright horrible.

I agree and they have made a mess of it for sure. Why not take advantage of it, if you can and want to own the additional weeks? It may help resale value for the owners a little bit, if they want to sell, so not all is bad for us but what a way to do business by a big Corporation.

 

[thinze3]

I agree and they have made a mess of it for sure. Why not take advantage of it, if you can and want to own the additional weeks? It may help resale value for the owners a little bit, if they want to sell, so not all is bad for us but what a way to do business by a big Corporation.

I agree.

Does anybody know how many MR points are given to DSV 1 & 2 'red' weeks? Seems like I read 125K a long time ago. What about Canyon Villas n AZ? I might have to consider another Marriott purchase.

 

[dioxide45]

I agree.

Does anybody know how many MR points are given to DSV 1 & 2 'red' weeks? Seems like I read 125K a long time ago. What about Canyon Villas n AZ? I might have to consider another Marriott purchase.

I am not sure I would take the chance. If it is a week you otherwise wouldn't mind using or trading through II, then go for it. However if you are only buying it to get it in to DC, then buying probably isn't a good idea since that possibility could be closed at any moment.

 

[VacationPro]

I am not sure I would take the chance. If it is a week you otherwise wouldn't mind using or trading through II, then go for it. However if you are only buying it to get it in to DC, then buying probably isn't a good idea since that possibility could be closed at any moment.

Sound advice. My recent purchase was just added to my Marriott account and when I tested to see if I could enroll it online, I get a message stating the week is ineligible.

 

[thinze3]

I am not sure I would take the chance. If it is a week you otherwise wouldn't mind using or trading through II, then go for it. However if you are only buying it to get it in to DC, then buying probably isn't a good idea since that possibility could be closed at any moment.

I sold my DSV week last year.

 

[brianfox]

Sound advice. My recent purchase was just added to my Marriott account and when I tested to see if I could enroll it online, I get a message stating the week is ineligible.

I just tried it and it says all of my weeks are eligible. I am referring to the page where it says my total points and cost of $1995. There's one final terms and agreements clause, then a button that says "Enroll". One of these weeks was purchased post-deadline.

 

[hotcoffee]

I just tried it and it says all of my weeks are eligible. I am referring to the page where it says my total points and cost of $1995. There's one final terms and agreements clause, then a button that says "Enroll". One of these weeks was purchased post-deadline.

I just think it is so downright bizarre that they have not fixed this problem. This thread was started back on 1/24/2011. The Marriott Customer Advocate post implied that they knew about the problem before this thread began. Yet, here it is 10 days after the thread began and it sounds like they have yet to take any action. So, they are just going to continue to allow as many people enroll ineligible weeks as the system allows in and then kick them all out later after issuing confirmations? If so, what a completely irresponsible way to run a business. Incredible!

 

[windje2000]

I just think it is so downright bizarre that they have not fixed this problem. This thread was started back on 1/24/2011. The Marriott Customer Advocate post implied that they knew about the problem before this thread began. Yet, here it is 10 days after the thread began and it sounds like they have yet to take any action. So, they are just going to continue to allow as many people enroll ineligible weeks as the system allows in and then kick them all out later after issuing confirmations? If so, what a completely irresponsible way to run a business. Incredible!

Not incredible - - the points sales run rate is absolutely dismal and they are booking fee income which they probably won't reverse until they 'discover' the erroneous enrollments.

Wall Street Rules.

 

[VacationPro]

I just think it is so downright bizarre that they have not fixed this problem. This thread was started back on 1/24/2011. The Marriott Customer Advocate post implied that they knew about the problem before this thread began. Yet, here it is 10 days after the thread began and it sounds like they have yet to take any action. So, they are just going to continue to allow as many people enroll ineligible weeks as the system allows in and then kick them all out later after issuing confirmations? If so, what a completely irresponsible way to run a business. Incredible!

My week closed early this year. When I click on the enroll button, my recently purchased week shows as ineligible and the ineligibility reason given is purchased after 12/10/10. To be honest, I'm not happy (with Marriott, not other owners) that others are being allowed to enroll (maybe only temporarily), while I am not. If this is truly an error, it should be fixed by now, as the clearly have a date field they can use to determine which weeks are eligible and which are not. If it was a business decision to get more weeks enrolled, it should have been handled differently.

 

[hotcoffee]

My week closed early this year. When I click on the enroll button, my recently purchased week shows as ineligible and the ineligibility reason given is purchased after 12/10/10. To be honest, I'm not happy (with Marriott, not other owners) that others are being allowed to enroll (maybe only temporarily), while I am not. If this is truly an error, it should be fixed by now, as the clearly have a date field they can use to determine which weeks are eligible and which are not. If it was a business decision to get more weeks enrolled, it should have been handled differently.

Because they obviously have a problem, they ought to suspend the prohibition temporarily until the issue is fully resolved. If some are getting in, then all should be able to get in. It is not unreasonable, even given their apparent hatred for resales, to change the resale cutoff date until they resolve the issue.

Ultimately, I think they are shooting themselves in the foot by denying resales into the program because they will eventually need to capture some of that inventory. Some pretty good weeks are being purchased resale. Keeping such weeks out of the program permanently seems to make little sense (unless they have other ideas on how they will be able to recapture some of the best of those weeks).

 

[BarbS]

So the resale cutoff date is now 12/10/10???

 

[dioxide45]

So the resale cutoff date is now 12/10/10???

Who knows . Apparently even Marriott doesn't know.

 

[startime]

It looks like I can enroll my recently purchased NCV gold week. The closed date is a couple weeks after the date 12/10/10 given above.

Assume for a minute that Marriott wouldn't reverse the transaction... Is it worth it to join for a single NCV gold week (2,700 points)? It sounds like I would need to maintain a separate II account for all my other non-Marriott weeks. $1,495 isn't that much money, if there is an annual longer term benefit in it for me. I bought this with the primary intention to stay at NCV and not trade unless necessary.

I know Marriott will likely reverse the sign-up. I am wondering if DC would be worth trying, in case they allow these mistaken enrollments to stick.

 

[dioxide45]

It looks like I can enroll my recently purchased NCV gold week. The closed date is a couple weeks after the date 12/10/10 given above.

Assume for a minute that Marriott wouldn't reverse the transaction... Is it worth it to join for a single NCV gold week (2,700 points)? It sounds like I would need to maintain a separate II account for all my other non-Marriott weeks. $1,495 isn't that much money, if there is an annual longer term benefit in it for me. I bought this with the primary intention to stay at NCV and not trade unless necessary.

I know Marriott will likely reverse the sign-up. I am wondering if DC would be worth trying, in case they allow these mistaken enrollments to stick.

If you will never trade it through II, then a single week owner of a non lock off will see little benefit to the program. Since you will have the $165 fee every year you are in the program. You will never make up the enrollment fee since your annual fee is higher than the fees that the $165 fee is supposed to be combining.

 

[wof45]

If you will never trade it through II, then a single week owner of a non lock off will see little benefit to the program. Since you will have the $165 fee every year you are in the program. You will never make up the enrollment fee since your annual fee is higher than the fees that the $165 fee is supposed to be combining.

or, you look at the DC points charts on vacationclub.com to see if the 2,700 points that you get will take you places that you would want to go.

 

[dioxide45]

or, you look at the DC points charts on vacationclub.com to see if the 2,700 points that you get will take you places that you would want to go.

You could do that; however, you would then have to give up the skim. Unless you were wanting to trade down for two or three weeks instead of less than one just about anywhere else, it probably isn't a good deal.

 

[enma]

I just tried to enroll my weeks on the MVCI website - my developer weeks and my resale week that I bought in August -10. They all show to be eligible. I am so tempted to do it. My resale week is in Maui that gives me lots of points and I know I will not be going there every year. But then I am afraid to do it. On the terms that you need to agree to it says that I understandand post 06/20/2010 weeks are not eligible. I am afraid they would just take my money and not enroll my resale week after all.

 

[VacationPro]

It looks like I can enroll my recently purchased NCV gold week. The closed date is a couple weeks after the date 12/10/10 given above.

Assume for a minute that Marriott wouldn't reverse the transaction... Is it worth it to join for a single NCV gold week (2,700 points)? It sounds like I would need to maintain a separate II account for all my other non-Marriott weeks. $1,495 isn't that much money, if there is an annual longer term benefit in it for me. I bought this with the primary intention to stay at NCV and not trade unless necessary.

I know Marriott will likely reverse the sign-up. I am wondering if DC would be worth trying, in case they allow these mistaken enrollments to stick.

This is really interesting regarding the date. I've gone back to my account a few times, and I keep getting the same message.

If I were in your position, unsure, and wouldn't miss the $1,495, I would go ahead and enroll. We don't know how long the "loophole" will last, so you may not get the chance again. If you find you don't like the program, or it isn't worth the annual fee going forward, you can always opt out at a later date.