RCI Suspended Eagle Village Tamiment

[natalia]

Just received this email:

“Dear Owner,

We understand that Eagle Village has had many issues over the past several years and many people have requested to exit their timeshare. As owners who are current on your dues, we are offering a deed transfer option for $960.00. This covers all costs associated with preparing the deed, filing, recording, and transfer taxes. Once completed this will close out your account.

If you are one of the owners who wish to exit and take advantage of this offer, please respond back to us at CustomerService@EagleVillageResort.com and we will have the documents prepared for you.

Best regards,

Customer Service
Eagle Village Resort”

What are your thoughts for current owners? I don't want to loose money unnecessarily. Should we wait to see if another entity makes a land offer and buys us out or should we take this offer? There's no way to know the right choice for sure. There are many other timeshare properties that have been in this situation. Maybe there's a way to aggregate the dispositions of them all to get a sense of the outcome in this situation? What might the intended desired outcome be for the Oakes group by making this offer? Any logical answers would be helpful. Thanks in advance for any constructive ideas.

Another question that comes to mind is how this $960.00 figure can now be offered by EV when in the recent past EV was suggesting that owners contact a certain individual who was charging $2500 or so for the same service? (I honestly do not want to appear negative however none of the suggestions,requests,recommendations from the new management at EV during the last year (July 2024) add up.

 

[FloRidatraveler2007]

Another question that comes to mind is how this $960.00 figure can now be offered by EV when in the recent past EV was suggesting that owners contact a certain individual who was charging $2500 or so for the same service? (I honestly do not want to appear negative however none of the suggestions,requests,recommendations from the new management at EV during the last year (July 2024) add up.

This $960 is to pay employees John Oakes has not paid in over 6 weeks for work at EV. This is his standard routine.

 

[nellevad]

The initial 2500 was industry standard because a portion of the fee went straight to the Association to pay for at least 2 years of MFs while trying to resell the unit. That is considered good fiduciary because it helps support current owners. 760×2=1520. 1520 + 960 = 2480. So you see, there is no Association anymore. No need to send money to them. The 960 is to pay the realestste closing costs of them person in California who is doing all the Closings with the guy in Stroudburg.. Doesn't cost 960 to close, so I think the rest goes to bushkill property owners/John oakes.

 

[nellevad]

I think there is a big push now to get rid of all the owners.

 

[EagleVillage08]

I think there is a big push now to get rid of all the owners.

John is being paid to take ownership of valuable land and buildings. What's better than buying a property cheap? Being paid to own it! The board should have done what was in all our best interests a couple years ago and admitted the books were in terrible shape then propose winding down the operations or injecting cash via large special assessments to rehab. We could have voted to sell the property and receive something in return. Instead owners are being persuaded to pay John to "buy" the property. Where's the good fiduciary duty in that? The board isn't real and certainly isn't working in the interest of the owners. They hadn't been long before John. They were neglectful and trusted Stephanie who also very obviously was not serving our best interests. It's all very sad really.

 

[FloRidatraveler2007]

John is being paid to take ownership of valuable land and buildings. What's better than buying a property cheap? Being paid to own it! The board should have done what was in all our best interests a couple years ago and admitted the books were in terrible shape then propose winding down the operations or injecting cash via large special assessments to rehab. We could have voted to sell the property and receive something in return. Instead owners are being persuaded to pay John to "buy" the property. Where's the good fiduciary duty in that? The board isn't real and certainly isn't working in the interest of the owners. They hadn't been long before John. They were neglectful and trusted Stephanie who also very obviously was not serving our best interests. It's all very sad really.

This is all sadly true. What makes this even sadder, this $960 is strictly to pay the folks who havent been paid for their work there for 6 weeks. So, if/when that money dries up, he will be out of money again, ruined credit from his previous failures and no ability to keep EV afloat. So he will be attempting to have full ownership and sell the land/property as cheap as he can, so he can move his con game to another part of the country. Probably somewhere in the Midwest where his awful reputation isn't as well known.

 

[nellevad]

I think the vote to disband will come soon. Bluwater is waiting to take possession. The Recreation center with pool is not EVs. The owner of that could have already sold it to Bluwater. That is where the money for renovation is coming from, I think. Interestingly, I have not received an email with the 960 offer. Has anyone else? Jon Oakes is the owner of Bushkill property Owners Eahle Ville LLC. All the other known names for our association board,
Eagle Village Propert Owners and various forms of that, are now listed as being owned by a realesate person in California. All our current board members live in California and probably work for that person. This has been a very calculated takeover. I wouldn't be surprised if Poconos Park was just a way to convince the board to trust John Oakes. He never intended on keeping it. Even sold it back to the original owners, who then sold it to Bluwater. I said in post #25 in the very beginning of this thread, that EV was a sitting duck for a land grab. We have to be out of the way for any kind of lake development. I was hopeful it might be a true offer. Got sucked into the "set up". His contract with EV was for 3 years. didn't even take a whole year. Watch for a bankruptcy buy out to be completed by August 31. We will all get papers to sign to release our deeds. Won't even cost us a red cent. No one should send anymore money to EV.

 

[FloRidatraveler2007]

I think the vote to disband will come soon. Bluwater is waiting to take possession. The Recreation center with pool is not EVs. The owner of that could have already sold it to Bluwater. That is where the money for renovation is coming from, I think. Interestingly, I have not received an email with the 960 offer. Has anyone else? Jon Oakes is the owner of Bushkill property Owners Eahle Ville LLC. All the other known names for our association board,
Eagle Village Propert Owners and various forms of that, are now listed as being owned by a realesate person in California. All our current board members live in California and probably work for that person. This has been a very calculated takeover. I wouldn't be surprised if Poconos Park was just a way to convince the board to trust John Oakes. He never intended on keeping it. Even sold it back to the original owners, who then sold it to Bluwater. I said in post #25 in the very beginning of this thread, that EV was a sitting duck for a land grab. We have to be out of the way for any kind of lake development. I was hopeful it might be a true offer. Got sucked into the "set up". His contract with EV was for 3 years. didn't even take a whole year. Watch for a bankruptcy buy out to be completed by August 31. We will all get papers to sign to release our deeds. Won't even cost us a red cent. No one should send anymore money to EV.

While most of this is true, there are some discrepancies. Poconos Park/Mount Laurel was not sold to Bluewater. It was repossessed by the bank. The surrounding areas was purchased by Bluewater. John Oakes never owned those areas. The parcels he owned (the plot with the Amphitheater and the lakehouse), are now under Fairbridge (the bank who repossessed it). The new board members are John's fiance, and a friend of his who is using his business as the 3rd board member position. They have 0 skin in the game, and are just puppets for John.

He is 100% positioning to get full control and sell to Bluewater however. That part is correct. This was not his plan the entire time. As I do believe he had the intention of attempting to bring this area back to prosperity, however, his business acumen is far less than he thinks it is, and his financial acumen is the same as a 4 year old. And his ego just took control of everything, and this is where it landed. Unfortunate, but not the first time he has done things of this nature. It's a sad track record of gross mismanagement of money, resources and time.

 

[nellevad]

I saw the name of a realeste agent from California as owner of all the association's names. That change took affect about a year ago. I ll try to find it again. John Oakes owned more parcels than just the lake house and theater. You can find that record on the recorder of deeds website. I believe Highland has been in a long contract with JO. Why Fairbridge hasn't transfered to Bluwater must be something that will happen soon. JO is a conman. There is no way he could have ever been planning to help EV.

 

[FloRidatraveler2007]

I saw the name of a realeste agent from California as owner of all the association's names. That change took affect about a year ago. I ll try to find it again. John Oakes owned more parcels than just the lake house and theater. You can find that record on the recorder of deeds website. I believe Highland has been in a long contract with JO. Why Fairbridge hasn't transfered to Bluwater must be something that will happen soon. JO is a conman. There is no way he could have ever been planning to help EV.

He owned the strip of land between EV and The Glen, and a couple other random parcels. All now repossessed by Fairbridge. Bluewater purchased the land owned by another real estate company. Nothing to do with John.

Fairbridge has been in contact with businesses to try and sell the land, Bluewater being one of them. There are quite a few other companies interested in the Amphitheater and lake house plot though in order to utilize the live entertainment spaces.

 

[FloRidatraveler2007]

The lies of John Oakes aren't even tough to find. There are no unforeseen circumstances that led to the abrupt closing of EV. He hasn't paid the electric bill since February. Same story as his failed amphitheater next door. In the most comical twist, he attempted to pay a portion of it in early June, and the transaction was declined. Information Courtesy of Met-Ed.

 

[natalia]

I will miss going to Eagle Village.
I am also going to miss the quiet and peaceful atmosphere. The views of the lake and seeing the deers,wild turkeys and occasional chip monks. I am also annoyed at the past Board of Directors for allowing this situation to get to this point where an incompetent,unqualified and untrustworthy individual could take control and completely disregard proper procedures in running a resort. Additionally,I am also sorry that a (few) EV employees have lost their positions due to poor management and oversight.

 

[Sammy1234]

Just curious, if John Oakes can't even pay the electric bill at EV, and I would think he has a loan to pay for EV, how do you think he is paying it? I would think its just a matter of time til the bank repossess Ev.
If that would happen, would everyone lose their deeds to the bank. If we would lose our deeds and belong to RCI, would we lose the ability to trade since we would not have anything to trade?

 

[FloRidatraveler2007]

Just curious, if John Oakes can't even pay the electric bill at EV, and I would think he has a loan to pay for EV, how do you think he is paying it? I would think its just a matter of time til the bank repossess Ev.
If that would happen, would everyone lose their deeds to the bank. If we would lose our deeds and belong to RCI, would we lose the ability to trade since we would not have anything to trade?

Great question. I am curious/doubtful he was even able to procure a loan from a bank for this, or if he used personal loans. His ability to get loans from a traditional bank were already lessened prior to Poconos Park (which is why he had to use a hard money lender for that property, which he then got foreclosed on). Curious if there is someone in here with a little more knowledge on timeshare foreclosures who can give some perspective.

 

[natalia]

Just curious, if John Oakes can't even pay the electric bill at EV, and I would think he has a loan to pay for EV, how do you think he is paying it? I would think its just a matter of time til the bank repossess Ev.
If that would happen, would everyone lose their deeds to the bank. If we would lose our deeds and belong to RCI, would we lose the ability to trade since we would not have anything to trade?

This definitely is a complicated mess.
I too have been thinking about the future of EV and how it will affect our timeshare investments.

 

[nellevad]

Taxes won't be paid, creditors will line up, it will go to auction to pay back taxes and creditors. We will get paperwork to relinquish our deeds, no cash value. New owner takes over. Paper is filed to end timeshare convenent. No more timeshare.

 

[Sammy1234]

Taxes won't be paid, creditors will line up, it will go to auction to pay back taxes and creditors. We will get paperwork to relinquish our deeds, no cash value. New owner takes over. Paper is filed to end timeshare convenent. No more timeshare.

So would that mean we also lose the right to trade with RCI if we are a member.
This will be so unfair if this does in fact happen. All those years paying in and nothing to show for it.

 

[natalia]

Per Google today.
I don’t believe this.
Confusion and questions remain.

 

[FloRidatraveler2007]

Per Google today.
I don’t believe this.
Confusion and questions remain.

Thats quite comical. There are no renovations happening. There is no staff on site. Power is due to be shut off on the 7th due to failed payments since the end of February. Unless the magical investor (sucker) finally appears for John Oakes after 3 years of trying for his failed venue, and here, then this place will be auctioned off for tax collection.

 

[nellevad]

There is no way that they can repair all the units in 6 months. First it was reopening in September. Now January 2026. All the roofs on the treehouses need to be replaced including the sheathing. That was an AI summary. Just spits out info it scans in the web and then summarizes it. No source listed for truthful fact finding. Wonder where it found the January 2026. Somewhere someone wrote that to feed AI. Eagle village will never reopen and no one should pay MFs for 2026.

 

[Sammy1234]

Where did the article about renovations being done and closed until 2026 come from? What would be the benefit for John Oakes to post that? Does he by chance think we are going to think this is true and buy him more time for what reason?
This is very misleading and possibly illegal.

 

[natalia]

Thats quite comical. There are no renovations happening. There is no staff on site. Power is due to be shut off on the 7th due to failed payments since the end of February. Unless the magical investor (sucker) finally appears for John Oakes after 3 years of trying for his failed venue, and here, then this place will be auctioned off for tax collection.

I appreciate the insights that you are able to provide.As I mentioned I don’t believe this but I wanted to share with my fellow owners.

 

[FloRidatraveler2007]

Where did the article about renovations being done and closed until 2026 come from? What would be the benefit for John Oakes to post that? Does he by chance think we are going to think this is true and buy him more time for what reason?
This is very misleading and possibly illegal.

There is no benefit. Any timeline that John Oakes gives, kicks the can down the road just far enough to keep folks hooked. During that time, he looks for investors. The pool of investors that will deal with him is becoming less and less, if there are any left at all. The amount of bridges being burned by this man is incredible.

 

[Sammy1234]

There is no benefit. Any timeline that John Oakes gives, kicks the can down the road just far enough to keep folks hooked. During that time, he looks for investors. The pool of investors that will deal with him is becoming less and less, if there are any left at all. The amount of bridges being burned by this man is incredible.

Thanks so another one of his scams. That's pretty much what I figured. Hopefully, one day soon, he will be held accountable for everyone he has burned.

 

[FloRidatraveler2007]

Thanks so another one of his scams. That's pretty much what I figured. Hopefully, one day soon, he will be held accountable for everyone he has burned.

Unfortunately, doubtful.

Another sad, yet interesting update: if anyone looks on the Google reviews, there is a review from a Barabara about living there and having power/water cut off. In the past 4 weeks, this same Barbara, won a lawsuit for $12,000 against John Oakes and Melanie Goocher (more on the Goochers in a bit). This is currently under appeal from Oakes and Goocher, but i dont see that being overturned. Docs attached. Curious where that $12,000 comes from.

Now to the Goochers. They were hired to be the GC for Oakes at the end of 2024. It seems as if their history is turning houses into cool, destination based air bnbs. Which goes along with what everyone has thought Oakes was slowly turning Eagle Village into. They were in charge of the local crew that was doing routine labor work for aesthetic upkeep. They led the hostile board meeting in January which led to John having control of the board. They also have been receiving a fair amount of the deedbacks, if not all of them. Between Melanie Goocher, Kevin Goocher and Dakota Goocher, they have been "purchasing" deeds for $1. The interesting turn, which shows true colors though, is when they found out that Oakes had run out of money, again. Not only did they not notify the workers that they had no way to pay them, they told them it was a payroll glitch and it will be fixed shortly. And then they left town. Cutting all communication with the labor off, with the exception of telling them to deal with John Oakes about pay, yet refusing to give contact information to him. Just terrible practice after terrible practice here.

The last part that becomes something to look out for. If the Goochers have gobbled up all of these deeds, and have hit a rough patch with Oakes due to lack of payments, do they void his consulting contract, and now they maintain control. If that is the case, where does that leave everyone? While yes, having Oakes out of the picture is ideal, what do the Goochers have in store?? From the folks who were at the board meeting in January, they seem petulant, and in way over their heads. A great puppet for John, but on their own? Thats a scary potential reality.

This does nothing to change that the power is due to be cut off today for lack of payment since February, but it is related to EV and its future.