RCI and Wyndham

[Baggi]

I'm not really clear on how RCI works yet.

I know you have to pay to deposit and use Wyndham points, but is there a way to discuss just RCI here?

I looked thru all the boards and maybe I'm just tired but didn't notice an area that was for RCI discussions. Is that because they just take place within the other groups?

Or did I miss something?

 

[bnoble]

If you have questions specifically about how the Wyndham RCI portal works, this is the right place. If instead you have questions about RCI generally, that would be better in the Exchanging forum.

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[Baggi]

I mostly just wanted to read up on it and not ask a bazillion questions and sound like a dummy.

I'm pretty sure I've got months until my aunt's Wyndham points transfer over to me and my wife. And during that time I'd like to learn as much as possible.

For example, there's a Worldmark resort near our home that is like to go to from time to time. I'm wondering how much trouble it's going to be to convert Wyndham over to Worldmark so we can go to this place.

Makes me sad we live in a state with no Wyndham but lots of Worldmark.

 

[CPNY]

I mostly just wanted to read up on it and not ask a bazillion questions and sound like a dummy.

I'm pretty sure I've got months until my aunt's Wyndham points transfer over to me and my wife. And during that time I'd like to learn as much as possible.

For example, there's a Worldmark resort near our home that is like to go to from time to time. I'm wondering how much trouble it's going to be to convert Wyndham over to Worldmark so we can go to this place.

Makes me sad we live in a state with no Wyndham but lots of Worldmark.

Ask a bunch of questions. You won’t sound like a dummy. You’re trying to learn and you’re getting yourself into an obligation that you should really be well versed in. Please ask away! You should know there are different types of ownership with certain rules so know what you have and ask away. People here will be more than willing to help to make sure you know exactly what you have and the best way to use it! You will only be a dummy if you don’t ask questions and have an ownership you don’t know what to do with.

 

[bbodb1]

@Baggi - Wyndham points CAN be used at Worldmark resorts BUT you do pay a fee (was $99 the last time I did this...may be more now).
As a Wyndham member, to check Worldmark availability, you need to call Wyndham first and ask about Worldmark availability. The call will then be transferred.
Make this call early in the morning or you may be waiting quite some time on hold...

 

[deslagle]

Baggi, I was in RCI from 1993 for over 15 years both for exchanges and then the points system. I gave up on them when they got caught skimming some of the best resorts off the top and renting them out for their financial benefit. I have been in Interval International every since and Raintree Vacation Club. Have done everything I can do to stay out of RCI. Wyndham actually owns RCI. Wyndham is taking over Raintree Vacation Club one unit at a time. Wyndham sales tactics I do not care for as they won't let you out the door with your so called "free gift" after the 90 minute pledge( Maui). They kept bringing management persons one after another changing the offer. We were there 3 hours. But since you are in Wyndham, use their systems for internal exchanging. They seem to be the biggest timeshare player now. I gave up via resale my Shell Group points to not deal with Wyndham. But the joke is on me.
1) I went to Park City 2 years ago and my Raintree Vacation Club Miners Club said Raintree on the bottom of the sign. Worldmark was at the top, A Wyndham resort. Wyndham was managing the front counter. Since I had owned for 10 plus years I figured they still had to give me the Raintree size rooms as reserved through Raintree. I was on the bottom floor and had no scenery as a new Wyndham had been built blocking the view in an "L" shape blocking half the view. The only view was of a grassy hill.
2) I also own at Laherencia Tres Rios and was put in the Registry Collection. I deal with special Registry collection concierges but found out that 200 of the options are actually Signature Selections resorts form RCI and that the concierges are part of RCI somehow. But I do get the nicer resorts. The Residences part of Registry Collection are not RCI.
https://www.theregistrycollection.com/information ... https://www.theregistrycollection.com/information ... The joke is on me with RCI.

Wyndham has an internal exchange system last I checked, but I am outsider, use the internal exchange systems and then only if you have to use RCI. Separate yearly annual fees and separate exchange fees are higher with RCI. Since Wyndham now owns RCI you have little choice outside of Wyndham and RCI as an alternative exchange company.

Alternatives are:

Interval International (II)

Resort Condominiums International (RCI)

Trading Places International

San Francisco Exchange Company (SFX)

Platinum Interchange

OwnerTrades.com, Marriott Specific

Trading Places Maui, Inc.

TIMELINX

Timex Direct Exchange System

Hawaii Timeshare Exchange
and there are more.

 

[CPNY]

Baggi, I gave up on them when they got caught skimming some of the best resorts off the top and renting them out for their financial benefit.

RCI skimming off the top would explain everyone questioning all of the SSR units for rent in DVC on eBay and redweek. I speculated that it’s prob RCI filtering the weeks to an outside broker to rent for them. I’ve seen this happen with harborside resort at Atlantis” it’s unfair. If they actually gave the inventory back to the owners to exchange more people would want to get into timeshares. Biggest gripe besides the insane maint fees are lack of being able to go where you want to go and when. I just picked up a high point RCI ownership. I’ve been with Interval for years, I will see how this goes. If it’s bad I’m out!

 

[Baggi]

I take it interval international is the same thing as RCI, and by same thing I mean, they do the same sort of thing? You deposit points and exchange timeshares with people?

 

[Jan M.]

You would be much better off to buy a small Grandview Las Vegas points week. Grandview is a member of the Vacation Village family of resorts and they exchange in either RCI points accounts or weeks accounts. You get a free weeks account as a Wyndham owner and you have to pay an annual fee and own a points week to have a points account. Points accounts are much better than weeks accounts. Plus it's a much better value to just own a points week than to deposit Wyndham points into RCI to be able to book RCI stays.

There are really good deals on point weeks for the Grandview Las Vegas resort and the maintenance fees are some of the best you will find.

Here is what's available in Washington as of right now with an RCI points account.

Destination

• Seattle/Puget Sound Area [4]
• Washington Coast [6]
• Washington Inland [4]

City

• Blaine [4]
• Chelan [2]
• Copalis Beach [1]
• Glacier [1]
• Long Beach [1]
• Manson [1]
• Ocean Shores [1]
• Port Townsend [2]
• Seattle [1]
• Union [1]

Check-In Month

• February 2020 [8]
• March 2020 [4]
• April 2020 [5]
• May 2020 [2]
• September 2020 [2]
• October 2020 [6]
• November 2020 [8]
• December 2020 [9]
• January 2021 [8]
• February 2021 [8]
• March 2021 [5]
• April 2021 [4]
• May 2021 [2]
• June 2021 [1]
• July 2021 [1]
• August 2021 [1]
• September 2021 [4]
• October 2021 [5]
• November 2021 [6]
• December 2021 [6]
• January 2022 [4]

UNION, WA USA
Blue Heron #0013
Points Range (7 Nts): 19,500 - 29,000
Check-In Date Range: 23-Oct-2020 to 28-Jan-2022
11 check-in nights available

PORT TOWNSEND, WA USA
Kala Point Village #3187
Points Range (7 Nts): 16,500 - 23,000
Check-In Date Range: 11-Dec-2020 to 12-Nov-2021
6 check-in nights available

CHELAN, WA USA
Lake Chelan Shores #0441

25 Reviews
Points Range (7 Nts): 13,000 - 66,000
Check-In Date Range: 09-Oct-2020 to 28-Jan-2022
54 check-in nights available

CHELAN, WA USA
Peterson's Waterfront Resort #1217

15 Reviews
Points Range (7 Nts): 18,500 - 66,000
Check-In Date Range: 28-Feb-2020 to 05-Feb-2021
11 check-in nights available

BLAINE, WA USA
Raintree's Sandcastle at Birch Bay #7899

169 Reviews
Points Range (7 Nts): 22,500 - 49,500
Check-In Date Range: 17-Apr-2020 to 18-Dec-2020
15 check-in nights available

GLACIER, WA USA
Snowater #3994
Points Range (7 Nts): 15,500 - 51,500
Check-In Date Range: 10-Apr-2020 to 31-Dec-2021
20 check-in nights available

COPALIS BEACH, WA USA
Surfcrest Condominiums #0051
Points Range (7 Nts): 7,500 - 25,000
Check-In Date Range: 21-Feb-2020 to 21-Jan-2022
25 check-in nights available

MANSON, WA USA
Wapato Point #0936

374 Reviews
Points Range (7 Nts): 7,500 - 83,000
Check-In Date Range: 22-Feb-2020 to 13-Jan-2022
367 check-in nights available

OCEAN SHORES, WA USA
Windjammer Condominiums #0970

98 Reviews
Points Range (7 Nts): 7,500 - 39,000
Check-In Date Range: 21-Feb-2020 to 24-Dec-2021
157 check-in nights available

BLAINE, WA USA
WorldMark Birch Bay - 3 Nights #DL07

141 Reviews
Points Value (7 Nts): 7,500
Check-In Date Range: 24-Feb-2020

BLAINE, WA USA
WorldMark Birch Bay - 5 Nights #DL06

141 Reviews
Points Range (7 Nts): 7,500 - 26,500
Check-In Date Range: 23-Feb-2020 to 15-Mar-2020

BLAINE, WA USA
WorldMark Blaine - 5 Nights #DS71
Points Value (7 Nts): 7,500
Check-In Date Range: 23-Feb-2020

SEATTLE, WA USA
WorldMark Camlin - 5 Nights #DN63
Points Value (7 Nts): 9,000
Check-In Date Range: 16-Feb-2020

PORT TOWNSEND, WA USA
WorldMark Discovery Bay #2897

62 Reviews
Points Value (7 Nts): 35,000
Check-In Date Range: 11-Apr-2020 to 18-Apr-2020

LONG BEACH, WA USA
WorldMark Long Beach #A871

89 Reviews
Points Range (7 Nts): 26,500 - 52,500
Check-In Date Range: 17-Apr-2020 to 15-May-2020
6 check-in nights available

 

[Baggi]

All of the links provided above seem to be busted. Every one I click on comes back "Ooops!" As a busted link.

 

[Baggi]

Also, the Grandview Las Vegas, are you talking about finding one for resale?

 

[HitchHiker71]

I take it interval international is the same thing as RCI, and by same thing I mean, they do the same sort of thing? You deposit points and exchange timeshares with people?

Yes, the rumor for the existence of the two (RCI vs II) is that the original exchange company was started by a husband/wife team many moons ago - and they subsequently got divorced - so they formed two different companies after the divorce, those two companies are now RCI and II.

 

[Xcalibur]

Baggi, I was in RCI from 1993 for over 15 years both for exchanges and then the points system. I gave up on them when they got caught skimming some of the best resorts off the top and renting them out for their financial benefit. I have been in Interval International every since and Raintree Vacation Club. Have done everything I can do to stay out of RCI. Wyndham actually owns RCI. Wyndham is taking over Raintree Vacation Club one unit at a time. Wyndham sales tactics I do not care for as they won't let you out the door with your so called "free gift" after the 90 minute pledge( Maui). They kept bringing management persons one after another changing the offer. We were there 3 hours. But since you are in Wyndham, use their systems for internal exchanging. They seem to be the biggest timeshare player now. I gave up via resale my Shell Group points to not deal with Wyndham. But the joke is on me.
1) I went to Park City 2 years ago and my Raintree Vacation Club Miners Club said Raintree on the bottom of the sign. Worldmark was at the top, A Wyndham resort. Wyndham was managing the front counter. Since I had owned for 10 plus years I figured they still had to give me the Raintree size rooms as reserved through Raintree. I was on the bottom floor and had no scenery as a new Wyndham had been built blocking the view in an "L" shape blocking half the view. The only view was of a grassy hill.
2) I also own at Laherencia Tres Rios and was put in the Registry Collection. I deal with special Registry collection concierges but found out that 200 of the options are actually Signature Selections resorts form RCI and that the concierges are part of RCI somehow. But I do get the nicer resorts. The Residences part of Registry Collection are not RCI.
https://www.theregistrycollection.com/information ... https://www.theregistrycollection.com/information ... The joke is on me with RCI.

Wyndham has an internal exchange system last I checked, but I am outsider, use the internal exchange systems and then only if you have to use RCI. Separate yearly annual fees and separate exchange fees are higher with RCI. Since Wyndham now owns RCI you have little choice outside of Wyndham and RCI as an alternative exchange company.

Alternatives are:

Interval International (II)

Resort Condominiums International (RCI)

Trading Places International

San Francisco Exchange Company (SFX)

Platinum Interchange

OwnerTrades.com, Marriott Specific

Trading Places Maui, Inc.

TIMELINX

Timex Direct Exchange System

Hawaii Timeshare Exchange
and there are more.

Love the info! I've always wanted to access the interval international system, but only own with Wyndham. Wyn limits you to eitwhr rci or ii depending on your contract. Is there a work around you're aware of? I do have access to tpi. I also joined sfx but haven't used sfx...

 

[CPNY]

Also, the Grandview Las Vegas, are you talking about finding one for resale?

What are you looking for? I was in the market for Grandview but found something better in the vacation village family. More RCI points with similar maint fee. There is another one listed on eBay now.

 

[CPNY]

Love the info! I've always wanted to access the interval international system, but only own with Wyndham. Wyn limits you to eitwhr rci or ii depending on your contract. Is there a work around you're aware of? I do have access to tpi. I also joined sfx but haven't used sfx...

II is great! Look for a good II trader. Sheraton Desert Oasis is apparently a great II trader. Plus you get priority access to MVC resorts with a lower exchange fee of 154 instead of the standard 209.

 

[CPNY]

You would be much better off to buy a small Grandview Las Vegas points week. Grandview is a member of the Vacation Village family of resorts and they exchange in either RCI points accounts or weeks accounts. You get a free weeks account as a Wyndham owner and you have to pay an annual fee and own a points week to have a points account. Points accounts are much better than weeks accounts. Plus it's a much better value to just own a points week than to deposit Wyndham points into RCI to be able to book RCI stays.

There are really good deals on point weeks for the Grandview Las Vegas resort and the maintenance fees are some of the best you will find.

I agree yet disagree. Grandview is great but there is another vacation village on the block! Regal vista at Massanutten or Woodstone at Massanutten.

regal vista 4 bedroom Red Week worth 178K RCI points with $985 maint fee
Woodstone 4 Bedroom Red Week worth 137K RCI points with $899 maint fee

vs

Grandview 2 bedroom Red Week worth 122K RCI points with $835 maint fee.

I was looking for Grandview but I opted for Regal Vista. My only problem will be with all my vistana ownerships will be figuring out how to spend178K RCI points.

 

[Baggi]

With RCI, whether you have Grandview or something else, every time you book a vacation you've got to pay a fee, right?

 

[raygo123]

I wonder if you buy resale and drop Club Wyndham this doing away with club fees, can you then join II?

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[CPNY]

With RCI, whether you have Grandview or something else, every time you book a vacation you've got to pay a fee, right?

Yes, apparently each booking is subject to an “exchange” fee.

 

[raygo123]

I agree yet disagree. Grandview is great but there is another vacation village on the block! Regal vista at Massanutten or Woodstone at Massanutten.

regal vista 4 bedroom Red Week worth 178K RCI points with $985 maint fee
Woodstone 4 Bedroom Red Week worth 137K RCI points with $899 maint fee

vs

Grandview 2 bedroom Red Week worth 122K RCI points with $835 maint fee.

I was looking for Grandview but I opted for Regal Vista. My only problem will be with all my vistana ownerships will be figuring out how to spend178K RCI points.

Yes, apparently each booking is subject to an “exchange” fee.

It is not a bad deal for VIP GOLD. With the quiet season deposit upgrade, 63,000 points for a 35,000 point deposit, I can get into a Worldmark cheaper than through Wyndham. New York City is a steal. Clearwater Beach.

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[CPNY]

It is not a bad deal for VIP GOLD. With the quiet season deposit upgrade, 63,000 points for a 35,000 point deposit, I can get into a Worldmark cheaper than through Wyndham. New York City is a steal. Clearwater Beach.

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I live in nyc. Nothing is a steal around here haha.

 

[bnoble]

I wonder if you buy resale and drop Club Wyndham this doing away with club fees, can you then join II?

You can *if* the resort is dual-enrolled. But, this also means withdrawing the underlying converted week from the points system permanently, and that's probably a net negative in terms of value. If belonging to II is important, it's probably better to just buy something that exchanges well there.

 

[Xcalibur]

You can *if* the resort is dual-enrolled. But, this also means withdrawing the underlying converted week from the points system permanently, and that's probably a net negative in terms of value. If belonging to II is important, it's probably better to just buy something that exchanges well there.

Nah... I just want a broader access of places to go to. More options is always nice. Especially when it's about availability. We have enough points/weeks as it is cuz we like to travel outside of the TS system as well. More points or weeks would just be an added expense. That said, I would be willing to pay an annual fee to exchange into II. Especially if if I were able to get the VIP rci upgrade. Does that exist?

 

[raygo123]

Nah... I just want a broader access of places to go to. More options is always nice. Especially when it's about availability. We have enough points/weeks as it is cuz we like to travel outside of the TS system as well. More points or weeks would just be an added expense. That said, I would be willing to pay an annual fee to exchange into II. Especially if if I were able to get the VIP rci upgrade. Does that exist?

Yes. Page 242 "quiet season deposit upgrade.

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[raygo123]

You can *if* the resort is dual-enrolled. But, this also means withdrawing the underlying converted week from the points system permanently, and that's probably a net negative in terms of value. If belonging to II is important, it's probably better to just buy something that exchanges well there.

Nope. Doesn't have to be enrolled at all.not all units at a resort are part of club wyndham, some more than you think. As far as value, what value.

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