Puppies… again!

[TheHolleys87]

Looking forward to more photos of those adorable puppies! Congratulations to Smoke (and y’all too of course)!

 

[b2bailey]

You don't spay?

After reading all of the comments, I'm inclined to remark on your honest expression of your personal beliefs about this topic. That's what TUG is for, right? I enjoy reading opinions that differ from my own.

 

[Glynda]

Awww...sweet! And I envy you getting to enjoy puppy breath!

 

[Passepartout]

Awww. Cute mama and babies.

 

[DeniseM]

@heathpack When you and Smoke get rested up, we are going to need a LOT more pictures!

 

[heathpack]

Nine days old and each of the Fatbottom Gang has doubled their birthweight.

 

[rickandcindy23]

So adorable.

 

[susieq]

How Adorable!!!!

 

[TheHolleys87]

I don’t want to whine, but I could really use some updated puppy photos to admire! How are they doing?

 

[heathpack]

I don’t want to whine, but I could really use some updated puppy photos to admire! How are they doing?

Here’s one from Jan 30. Today I’ll try to take some individual portraits.

 

[AnnaS]

Adorable!!

 

[Patri]

The collars are such a great idea.

 

[Brett]

Here’s one from Jan 30. Today I’ll try to take some individual portraits.

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On to the Puppy Bowl !

 

[TheHolleys87]

Here’s one from Jan 30. Today I’ll try to take some individual portraits.

Thank you! I love how they snuggle up into the bed, all together for comfort!

 

[easyrider]

While there may be some very specialized needs for a particular breed, this is a tiny percentage of bred dogs. Cretins pay thousands just to say they have an X-doodle or whatever. I think it is weird when so many are killed every day.

Oddly, we were thinking about this the other day. We are into our Roxy Aussie-doodle about $3500. This amount represents the costs of purchase, vet bills, grooming supplies and dog sitter. The dog sitter amount is only $25 a day and is our main cost. Since we brought her home two years ago we have been on trips for 14 weeks which represents $2,400.

We are planning to travel more is what I think. The cost for a dog sitter is probably going to be about $1500 - $2000 a year.

Our conversation drifted to should we give Roxy away. As we thought about it we also thought it might be better to put her down rather than take a chance of her having a bad home.

I don't think it's weird that so many animals are put down each day. It's probably the most humane thing to do in most cases.

Bill

 

[klpca]

Oddly, we were thinking about this the other day. We are into our Roxy Aussie-doodle about $3500. This amount represents the costs of purchase, vet bills, grooming supplies and dog sitter. The dog sitter amount is only $25 a day and is our main cost. Since we brought her home two years ago we have been on trips for 14 weeks which represents $2,400.

We are planning to travel more is what I think. The cost for a dog sitter is probably going to be about $1500 - $2000 a year.

Our conversation drifted to should we give Roxy away. As we thought about it we also thought it might be better to put her down rather than take a chance of her having a bad home.

I don't think it's weird that so many animals are put down each day. It's probably the most humane thing to do in most cases.

Bill

Didn't the person who you purchased from have a clause in the contract that they would take the dog back for any reason? I have seen this from both breeders and rescues. It is pretty standard.

I suspect that most animals being euthanized are strays that wind up in a shelter. It is a rotten life for an animal all the way around.

 

[geist1223]

I can not believe you are actually thinking of putting down a 2 year old dog. For our entire timeshare ownership we have had at least 1 dog and 1 cat. Sometimes 2 of each. We put Felix down 22 months ago. He was 14 and losing his back legs, falling down backwards going up steps into house. We paid for about 2 months of specialized treatment ($250 each session) once or twice a week. But it was not helping. I swore off dogs. But after 2 months Patti decided I still needed a Dog. Felix was a Black and White GSP, 29 inches at the shoulder, and 75 pounds. Patti found a Black GSP that needed to be rehomed. Finn is 29 inches at the shoulder and 85 pounds. He is a joy. We happily pay a House/Pet Sitter. He is so happy and excited when we come home after a 2 or 3 week trip. It takes him about 30 minutes to calm down. He was disappointed the one time we forgot to bring him home a new Stuffy. This year is about normal with 13 weeks of travel.

 

[easyrider]

Didn't the person who you purchased from have a clause in the contract that they would take the dog back for any reason? I have seen this from both breeders and rescues. It is pretty standard.

I suspect that most animals being euthanized are strays that wind up in a shelter. It is a rotten life for an animal all the way around.

No. We paid cash and that was the end of it. We wouldn't take Roxy to a shelter. We would take her to our vet and then bury her out back.

Bill

 

[clifffaith]

Oddly, we were thinking about this the other day. We are into our Roxy Aussie-doodle about $3500. This amount represents the costs of purchase, vet bills, grooming supplies and dog sitter. The dog sitter amount is only $25 a day and is our main cost. Since we brought her home two years ago we have been on trips for 14 weeks which represents $2,400.

We are planning to travel more is what I think. The cost for a dog sitter is probably going to be about $1500 - $2000 a year.

Our conversation drifted to should we give Roxy away. As we thought about it we also thought it might be better to put her down rather than take a chance of her having a bad home.

I don't think it's weird that so many animals are put down each day. It's probably the most humane thing to do in most cases.

Bill

I have no words fit for polite company.

 

[easyrider]

I can not believe you are actually thinking of putting down a 2 year old dog. For our entire timeshare ownership we have had at least 1 dog and 1 cat. Sometimes 2 of each. We put Felix down 22 months ago. He was 14 and losing his back legs, falling down backwards going up steps into house. We paid for about 2 months of specialized treatment ($250 each session) once or twice a week. But it was not helping. I swore off dogs. But after 2 months Patti decided I still needed a Dog. Felix was a Black and White GSP, 29 inches at the shoulder, and 75 pounds. Patti found a Black GSP that needed to be rehomed. Finn is 29 inches at the shoulder and 85 pounds. He is a joy. We happily pay a House/Pet Sitter. He is so happy and excited when we come home after a 2 or 3 week trip. It takes him about 30 minutes to calm down. He was disappointed the one time we forgot to bring him home a new Stuffy. This year is about normal with 13 weeks of travel.

I have no words fit for polite company.

For us, 13 weeks of dog sitter is at least $2275 and more when our dog sitter is busy. Roxy could live another 10 years easy. The cost would be more than $20,000 for our dog sitter alone. I think that is more than I want to spend. I would give her to someone that I know would take good care of her but wouldn't consider the dog pound.

More than likely someone would want her. She doesn't shed but her hair needs to be groomed often. She is yard trained. She is trained to use a potty mat or yard. She fits perfectly on a lap. Her cons are she doesn't seem to like small kids and she barks at our grand kids. Another con is the grooming. I can cut her hair but others might not be able to. Another con is she gets distracted easily and will run off. We live in coyote country and she is the right size to be taken.

Bill

 

[geist1223]

Having several friends that raise pure breeds spaying is common. A friend (a Judge this year at Westminster Herding Group) that has raised Corgies for 30+ years. Both Prembrokes and Cardigans. With each Litter she has to decide which will be sold as Show Dogs and which will be Pet Dogs. The Pet Dogs are spayed or neutered. In the Sales Contract she retains the Right to reclaim Dog if she finds out they are not be treated correctly. She also retains the RFR if the person decides to sell or move on. My first Corgie (Andrew) moved in with us after he gained the rating of Champion. She retained Breeding and Show Rights. After he was done Breeding he was neutered and became ours. Our second Corgie was his Daughter Fancy. Fancy was beautiful but too big to be a Female Show Dog. She joined us permanently after her first Litter did not go well. One born dead, one died shortly after Birth (ruptured Diaphram sp?), and one failed to thrive. Our friend said Breeding is too expensive to continue trying to breed her. She was spayed after moving in with us.

 

[geist1223]

Contact the Breeder or Breed Rescue Organization for help. I volunteer at the Oregon Humane Society. It is a non-kill shelter. We place 1000's of dogs every year. The Staff and Volunteers interact with the Dogs at least 3 times a day. They are taken for walks and time in the play yards. Dogs are also placed in Foster Care.

When we know a Dog has an issue (kids, cats, other dogs, escape artist) that is posted. A person wanting it to adopt is made aware of the issues and has to fill out a form to make sure none of the issues arise in the household. Do people lie. Yes. Those dogs are normally returned fairly quickly. Full Time Trained Staff work with the Dogs trying to correct these issues.

 

[easyrider]

Contact the Breeder or Breed Rescue Organization for help. I volunteer at the Oregon Humane Society. It is a non-kill shelter. We place 1000's of dogs every year. The Staff and Volunteers interact with the Dogs at least 3 times a day. They are taken for walks and time in the play yards. Dogs are also placed in Foster Care.

When we know a Dog has an issue (kids, cats, other dogs, escape artist) that is posted. A person wanting it to adopt is made aware of the issues and has to fill out a form to make sure none of the issues arise in the household. Do people lie. Yes. Those dogs are normally returned fairly quickly. Full Time Trained Staff work with the Dogs trying to correct these issues.

I'm told by the Queen of the North that I won't ever be able to put Roxy to sleep or give her away and that's the final word. I then said "word". She just smiled and gave me the look.

Bill

 

[wackymother]

I'm told by the Queen of the North that I won't ever be able to put Roxy to sleep or give her away and that's the final word. I then said "word". She just smiled and gave me the look.

Bill

Damn right. It's expensive to have a dog. But to put down a healthy young dog because it's inconvenient to you--that's shocking. I very much doubt that you would be able to persuade a vet to do the job.

 

[easyrider]

Damn right. It's expensive to have a dog. But to put down a healthy young dog because it's inconvenient to you--that's shocking. I very much doubt that you would be able to persuade a vet to do the job.

I know our vet and he would put Roxy down because Roxy is a dog. What do you think happens to most unwanted dogs and cats ? I don't see how this is shocking to an adult. My thought is if we take her to any rescue facility her chances of finding a permanent home are not that good and she would be put to sleep anyways which seems like it would be very stressful to her. The better choice is to just put her down with love, imo.

Anyway, as I said above, we are keeping her until the Queen says different.

Bill