Plane crash at LGA

[easyrider]

While I am not mr Esq. If you are implying that recent government shutdowns are the cause of absenteeism of ATC staff. that isn't it. ATC is under the FAA and FAA is receiving full funding. There are a lot of issues with ATC. It is a high stress job and employees need to be hired before a certain age to qualify. Thus making the pool of potential employees small. Then we have the antiquated nature of ATC in the US.

Good points but if you want to continue this trajectory you can always pm me.

Bill

 

[DeniseM]

Article: Why didn't Fire Truck 1 Stop?

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/27/nyregion/laguardia-crash-air-canada-truck.html?unlocked_article_code=1.WVA.SB0a.sJ7ARbF4JOFX&smid=url-share

 

[davidvel]

The atc is in charge of all take offs, landings, ground vehicles and runway crossings at the airport. When you say lots of people you are referring to the tower control and ground control which are all atc.

Better questions for you is why are 20% to 40% of atc's not showing up for work ? Why does La Guardia have up to a 50%- 80% of atc's not showing up for work ? This can't be debated here as it would cross the line of what is deemed appropriate. These questions are for @davidvel Esq. only.

Bill

Pilots are in charge of where their aircraft go regardless of what ATC tells them. Apparently, ARFF engineers are in charge of where their trucks go despite stop bar lights as well.

As for the questions you posit they lack foundation as they contain made up statistics.

 

[davidvel]

Article: Why didn't Fire Truck 1 Stop?

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/27/nyregion/laguardia-crash-air-canada-truck.html?unlocked_article_code=1.WVA.SB0a.sJ7ARbF4JOFX&smid=url-share

This article adds nothing to the known facts, and fails to mention the stop bar lights.

 

[am1]

Another thing that is probably not getting much press in the USA about the crash is that when the CEO of Air Canada made the announcement about the crash and loss of the 2 pilots, he did not speak French in any part of his speech except for bonjour( hello) at the beginning and merci (thank you) at the end. Since French is one of the 2 official languages of Canada it is expected that all official announcements have some French in them, but not necessarily the whole speech in both languages. The CEO, Michael Rousseau, does not speak French well and said in the rush to make the announcement, and his distress at the time, he did not have any part of his speech written out in French for him to read. Most TV stations added closed captions in French for the broadcast which seems to be not enough for the Francophones of Canada and they are calling for the CEO to resign! SMH

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/air-canada-ceo-michael-rousseau-francois-legault-9.7141491

~Diane

Sadly that is their priority. Even in situations like this. If Air Canada was a crown corporation I could understand a little but as a private business no. One would think Montcalm won almost 300 years ago.

A horrible situation that is likely avoided more times than not and probably safer driving there then on the highway but a reason why I do not like shuttle buses to the plane or satellite terminals like I had to do at yyz last year.

 

[easyrider]

Pilots are in charge of where their aircraft go regardless of what ATC tells them. Apparently, ARFF engineers are in charge of where their trucks go

Pilots can deviate from atc instructions only when safety is compromised. Aircraft rescue and firefighting take instructions from ground atc and can deviate only when safety is compromised.

When a person says it was my fault, involving any incident concerning liability, it is considered an admission of guilt and acceptance of liability regardless of the statements intent. You already know this so I don't get the pettifogging other than maybe it's what you do.

Bill