Pete Rose dies at 83 years old

[pedro47]

How many Hall of Fame players from the Mets, Gaints, Yankees and Dodgers have abuse alcohol, drugs and steroids?

 

[pedro47]

Why does the the NBA, MLB and the NFL allow betting on there games in 2024?

 

[slip]

I respect your position, @slip but if they have that evidence, why not release it? What is MLB afraid of? To me, it just isn’t fair to say we have this evidence but we’re not going to show it to you because we’ve already found him guilty. Are there others involved that they let slide? Is there also contradicting evidence they don’t want us to see. Imo, MLB has bungled this whole thing for 40 years. It’s kind of ironic when you think about it, MLB held all the cards, but refused to show them.

From what I read it was part of the agreement to not release it. Remember Pete agreed to the ban. The evidence was overwhelming.

 

[slip]

I've never heard this. I just did a google search and I didn't find any evidence of that. Can you point me to something?

I read it years ago so it's out there. The report wasn't released but some of the people involved spoke about it. So you can believe it or not.

The players have to sign off on the no betting on baseball rule. He knew what he was doing.

I look at the Hall of Fame as a membership to something exclusive. It's not just a record center. Again all my two cents.

 

[SteveinHNL]

I read it years ago so it's out there. The report wasn't released but some of the people involved spoke about it. So you can believe it or not.

The players have to sign off on the no betting on baseball rule. He knew what he was doing.

I look at the Hall of Fame as a membership to something exclusive. It's not just a record center. Again all my two cents.

That's like 6 or 8 cents now we need to keep this going, my MFs are increasing and will be due soon!

 

[slip]

That's like 6 or 8 cents now we need to keep this going, my MFs are increasing and will be due soon!

I like to answer questions when I'm asked but I also want to make sure people are aware these are my opinions from what I have read. Others can make up there own minds.

 

[1Kflyerguy]

I only became interested in baseball after this scandal. For me, the betting and resulting ban are the main thing I remember about him.

 

[SteveinHNL]

I only became interested in baseball after this scandal. For me, the betting and resulting ban are the main thing I remember about him.

That makes sense if you weren't interested in baseball until after the problems arose. By then his true playing career was done. He was a great player, one of the best ever.

 

[ScoopKona]

Like I said, I dont know his whole story. When i say crimes against people I mean his big bad no no thing was sports betting, he didnt murder anyone or cause physical harm and THAT be his big "negative claim to fame"

He's not Aaron Hernandez or OJ Simpson is what im getting at....

AGAIN if he did do something, apparently that wasnt big enough to constantly be mentioned when his name comes up. I would hope he has not hurt people

Might want to google that...

 

[Skyyblueplaya]

Might want to google that...

I'll pass, thank you.... These days Im afraid of what I might find. I dont know the guy, maybe best to just keep it that way....

 

[pedro47]

maybe baseball will release the information after 10 years. after he has passed.

 

[Brett]

I'll pass, thank you.... These days Im afraid of what I might find. I dont know the guy, maybe best to just keep it that way....

Maybe so. There's plenty of unsavory non-baseball stuff written about Pete Rose.

 

[Superchief]

Pete Rose was one of the best baseball players to ever play the game. He also made his teams better. He wasn't blessed with natural talents and only succeeded through hard work. The key players of the Big Red Machine said that Pete kept everyone playing at a higher level due to his dedication and hustle. He also was respected for his coaching ability, as is illustrated in this article. I'd like to focus on his good points.

Williams: 3 enduring lessons Pete Rose taught youth baseball players, coaches, parents

Jason Williams: Pete Rose was a fantastic teacher of the game. Here are three enduring lessons he taught youth athletes, their coaches and parents.

www.cincinnati.com

 

[ScoopKona]

Maybe so. There's plenty of unsavory non-baseball stuff written about Pete Rose.

And it's not like it's hard to find.

I used to see Pete all the time at MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Constantly. He autographed stuff at one of those "signed guitars, movie posters and similar" shops. That was between the monorail station and where I worked.

One time, one of his handlers asked if I'd like a signed baseball, on the cheap. Slow night, I suppose.

"I wouldn't take one if you paid me."

 

[Superchief]

I'll pass, thank you.... These days Im afraid of what I might find. I dont know the guy, maybe best to just keep it that way....

The fact that his Big Red machine teammates and the players that he managed later in his career all speak highly of him and remained close friends indicates to me that he wasn't that bad a guy. He grew up poor and unrefined and later hung out with some bad people and gambled, but that doesn't make him a bad person. There are a lot of respected entertainment stars and politicians who have done a lot worse things than Pete has, and more big names will likely be identified in the P Diddy investigation. Hopefully, Pete won't be on that list.

 

[Superchief]

I only became interested in baseball after this scandal. For me, the betting and resulting ban are the main thing I remember about him.

I think the HBO documentary provides a pretty good presentation of his accomplishments as a player as well as his gambling issues. As a Cincinnati fan, I'd forgotten that he also led the Phillies to a world championship. He is also the only player to every make the All Star team at five different positions. He was an amazing player.

 

[x3 skier]

Article in the WSJ.

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www.wsj.com

 

[Superchief]

An excellent article about Pete written by his lawyer.

Opinion: Cincinnati, baseball and fans are better for having Pete Rose as part of us

Pete Rose made a serious mistake and broke a serious rule, but here is what I know about him: He made a lot of people happy.

www.cincinnati.com

 

[pedro47]

Article in the WSJ.

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www.wsj.com

I feel everyone who are against Pete Rose should read this article from the WSJ. IMHO.

 

[Brett]

I feel everyone who are against Pete Rose should read this article from the WSJ. IMHO.

I'm not "against" Pete Rose, I recognize his baseball skills.
And his baseball records are in the Cooperstown Museum, he's just not personally in the "Hall of Fame" (for now)

 

[pedro47]

The article in the Wall Street Journal was not written by Pete Rose lawyer. Read it you may learn something.

Against every professional sport league today. You can place a bet on the outcome of any professional game 24/7 and 365 days.

Professional sports and gambler organizations have make it so easy to gamble with the worldwide internet . IMHO.

 

[WaikikiFirst]

every time I see this thread, sigh:

"What shall we add now? He is dead.
And I who praise and you who blame,
With wash of words across his name,
Find suddenly declared instead
-- "On Sunday, third of August, dead.'

.............................

Be abstinent in praise and blame.
The man's still mortal, who stands first,
And mortal only, if last and worst.
Then slowly lift so frail a fame,
Or softly drop so poor a shame."