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PA state troopers called - vacation home trashed [merged]

OMG, no toilet all this time? That would have been first on my list. Props to you for putting up with the outdoor facilities this long!

I wouldn't mind losing the weight, but not the way you've done it.

Any news on the vandals?

First, to install a toilet you need a floor with a finished flooring. Note: Bathroom still has no door.:ignore: So indoor bathroom still an adventure.

Most likely water weight due to heat and too much night time brandy drinking on this trip.

Called state trooper but did not get a call back.

Also, until TODAY, the only running water at the property was at the end of a garden hose off the deck outside. Personal tree looking better?
 
Yes, I have pictures. More than 2 or 3. But several of the rooms are looking pretty nice in the last week. You can identify the kitchen as a kitchen verses as trash pile.

Could someone send me via PM the TUG (for idiot) way to up from my hard disk to this thread?

TIA ...

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Looked over the sticky post and just don't have the time - very short weekend. The AOL option is kaupt or going away very soon. I have to go shopping at Home Depot, again.... where everyone knows my name in 2 states and 3 stores.
 
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Viv,
Just go to the sticky post at the top of the Lounge.
You have to use a picture hosting service, such as Snapfish etc.
PJ
 
Bonus Week of work from my handyman ...

Just got back from ANOTHER week in the Poconos. Back to back work weeks - only this time we had to stay in 2 hotels rooms down the street instead of Wyndham Shawnee Resort.

Long week. Got 3 of the 4 new windows installed. Let me tell you, egress windows are big! And heavy when made out of wood. We got them into the first floor bedrooms after making the openings BIGGER. If they had been on the 2nd floor or higher off the ground, I could NOT have helped lift, hold, push and secure those buggers. But they look sooo nice. Did not get the kitchen unit in - I think mainly because the air conditioning is in that window. Bath and both bedrooms installed, but not yet trimmed out either inside or outside.

Smaller bedroom 3/4" hardwood floor is done. Sheetrock is painted my new color.

Larger bedroom window wall is taped with first coat of mud. Room has been out supply room and that is now moved. Ceiling is painted.

Bathroom plumbing is fixed and hookup with hot water to hot water valves all the way around. I installed a shower caddy, but was ordered to NOT install the shower curtain (rod was installed). Double sink vanity and new sinktop with new 8" center faucets really look nice. I had to resand the doors to the vanities due to some paint problem (paint did NOT gloss, but does now - don't paint in direct sun:doh: ). Did not have time to repaint the doors with all the other running I was doing.

Started staining ALL the new doors and woodwork. ME only, as my handiman has a childhood hatred of doing that work. He does like to bust on me as to how much more work I have to do and HE is adamant he will not do ANY of it.
He is even telling me that I will be up in the Poconos alone for several more weeks - staining and poly-ur-phening. I will have to figure out a way to get even. He also tells me I am slower at it than anyone else he has ever seen.

We also attacked the ants. Big black ants. In the house, on the deck, crawling up the block walls, in the crawl space. After taking out the windows, we figured out the original builder did not believe in using ANY CAULK, anywheres, ever. I have T1-11 cedar sliding and after 35 years and several stainings, is still very sound. But no caulk with T1-11 means lots of channels for the ants to get into the frame of the house.

Granite countertop people could have been there NEXT Thursday - but I was not pleasant in talking to him. Most likely I went a week or two lower on the install list - but I did not want to drive back there again in 5 days.

Of course, the handyman loved the shorter drive to the job site as I whined about the double cost for motels rooms for this past week. He got to enjoy the teenage girls' giggy-fest and their mother yelling at them from midnight for 2 hours as they roosted in the hallway outside his room. I had called the front desk when I heard them around 10:30PM and the security guard "shuss" them. But they came back and I was sound asleep, not hearing them the 2nd time go-around. He would NEVER admit that Wyndham timeshares are better than a motel. I ate the free continental breakfast every AM as he usually leaves 45-60 minutes before it opened up.

I hauled a truckload of trash back home with me today - mostly the old wood windows, siding, some 2x4's and old trim from the house. Left behind a bunch of construction debris - next trip.;) Made an earlier trash run on RUN home on Tuesday for my elderly aunt (86yo) with the tax assessor; so I booked a visit to see my doctor. Either we generated a whole LOT of trash this week or it has been in hiding the past month or two. There is still another pickup truck full in the yard up there now - sheetrock scraps, more wood flooring scraps, and 5 black trash bags full.

Moral of story this week: Don't yell at the granite guy on the phone. Staying at timeshares are cheaper, quieter and better for sleeping. Construction trash reproduces and multiples all by itself.
 
Posted Pictures of Poconos Vacation house ...

On the other thread.

Finally.

Moderators: Please leave this up for a day or two .... many Tuggers had been asking about pictures. And I finally figured out how to post via Flickr.
 
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On the other thread.

Finally. Flickr link.

Moderators: Please leave this up for a day or two .... many Tuggers had been asking about pictures. And I finally figured out how to post via Flickr.

Can you give us the website link? I would love to see your pictures.
 
It's looking great! Love the tile, the floors, the cabinets ... Everything!
 
Very nice. When can I move in?

I think I saw only one before picture - the Corelle on the rug - how awful. Do you have more pics of the vandalism?
 
I will link it to the other thread so people can find it easily, and leave new link up for a week.
 
Very nice. When can I move in?

I think I saw only one before picture - the Corelle on the rug - how awful. Do you have more pics of the vandalism?

I have upload more damage pictures to Flickr.
 
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Wow, you've been through a lot. I'd guess if they took on the project of painting walls that someone decided to take up a homestead in your house. Seems like it'd be pretty easy to find out who it was.
 
OMG, that was definitely malicious and premeditated (bringing paint doesn't happen without planning). Definitely not a few teens having a pizza and beer party.

Please keep us posted on what's happening with the police and charges.
 
OMG, that was definitely malicious and premeditated (bringing paint doesn't happen without planning). Definitely not a few teens having a pizza and beer party.

Please keep us posted on what's happening with the police and charges.

Paint, sheetrock mud, moving all the stuff around the house or outside, drawing hearts with names around the fireplace, breaking up all the furniture, etc.

Plus, the beer containers, volka, pizza boxes outside, drug baggies, condoms (used), etc. Plus missing stuff - not broken, but missing like 11 blankets, Dansk coffee mugs, kitchen knives, pots and pans, hand and bath towels.
 
Viv, your work looks great and you have every right to be proud. You will have a true year-round home and not just a 'Summer Cabin' when finished. A real asset. Congratulations. Thanks for sharing the photos of your progress. I can only imagine what the 'before' would have looked like.

Jim
 
Added some of the before repair pictures.

Yes, walking into the trashed and damaged place was shocking.

I have had the house for over 35 years. I had it built and I picked out all the furniture. I even had replaced the LR and DR furniture (upgraded it) over the years. I have many, many memories of things I did in the area, friends who came there for weekends with me, several ski trips with friends as far as Atlanta, boyfiends who loved the place. It was very well insulated - with a builder friend and I installing a plastic vapor barrier over the 3.5 inches of pink stuff before the sheetrockers came in. The old wood windows were double pane (Crestline) and not drafty like several newer houses I lived in over the years. The stone fireplace was a piece of art - mostly undamaged - having the rocks cracked onsite as it was built.

I spent 5 days over 2 trips up there just sorting thru stuff, filling trash bags, meeting the insurance people, photographing damages & items still there, filling storage tubs, and picking up outdoor litter. It was worst than moving back home - these items were mostly beyond saving - just shards of my past. All the pictures, paints and prints on the walls were totally destroyed - frames, glass, etc. My one oil painting was slashed and diced (not that I liked it a lot, but it was mine and not theirs to destroyed).

When I had the dumpster delivered and my handyman came up with me - he had boarded up the house with the insurance adjuster as I was in Florida - he was shocked as to how much I had bagged and cleaned. We pretty much filled a 40 yard dumpster in 2 days. And spent another 3 days gutting the house.

I have spent many hours deciding the styles, then the what and how of the look I want for the house. It has frustrated my worker, had me spending hours LOOKING at stuff, returning the MAYBEs when I decide they should become NOs.

And I have done almost nothing about furniture - yet. I really would like a bathroom door with a lockset on it!

Dang, I haven't looked at or brought any interior door locksets for the house (going for the levered ones, I think).
 
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As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. The damage done was incredible. It almost looked like they had moved in (moved furniture around), yet totally destroyed their free accommodations. Sick.

You've done a lot of hard work and it looks great. But what's the status of getting these guys? I saw at least one person's name painted on a wall (not that it means they were there). And, what will prevent this from happening again?
 
Boy, Viv, I've been following this thread all along and want to say that you've done an incredible job. It's heartbreaking looking at your pics and I can't believe how angry it made me to see that girl's name on the wall. It must have been a thousand times worse for you when you first saw it.

Thanks for sharing your labor of love. :)
 
Names on the walls included: Kaitlyn, TJ, and Katie.

Katie in a heart was on both sides of the fireplace mantel in RED and inside a Red Heart. Both of those were covered over with sheetrock mud (not my sheetrock mud). We sanded off the sheet rock mud to level the surface before repainting and uncovered the "art work". State Police came and took a pictures to add to their evidence.

I loved the door to the small bedroom which had written on it facing towards the hall: PRIVATE - KEEP OUT.

Yes, everything in the house had been sorted, mostly moved, much broken, lots of damage with either their BLUE paint or a partial gallon can of my green LR paint. There was also a lot of stuff just plain MISSING.

We had the house totally emptied of everything damaged the first work trip there (my handyman and I). It made it easier as then it looked more like just some shell - a blank canvas.

We have been up there 7 work weeks of 5 days 10 hour days - I missed a week for a sibling event. 650 man hours basicly. I have made several trips - both day trips and over night trips - independant of those work weeks - another 100+ hours. We have 210 hours scheduled for August - mostly my handyman. I can't count without looking for receipts and the travel log, the number of roundtrip runs I have made up there - about 125 miles each way - as I sometimes have to make 1 or 2 trips home every work week. And nothing is closeby - I easily use 3 -4 tanks of gas each week -260 miles a tank/ 14 miles per gallon - as I use my 4x4 pickup truck. I would get double the gas mileage using the car - but the car doesn't carry building material real well.

Plus the Wyndham points reservations stays and the one hotel stay ($560 for 4 nights :eek: ).
 
Another couple of weeks have gone by. My handyman has spent 11 works days up there since my last post. I made 1 RT daytrip, as I had a trip planned with the extended family - I could not get out of it and I tried very hard not to go. And some business meetings at work before I left also. I am supposed to be up there starting tomorow for 3 or 4 days to stain woodwork - doors and trim.

We (as he would say, we?) got the granite countertop in, set the sink and finished that plumbing, 2 doors hung (but not the bathroom), trimmed out 1 bedroom totally, painted the other bedroom, put up the mirror and lights in the bathroom, finished installing ALL the hardwood flooring, installed several of the repainted electric baseboard heaters, installed outlets/switch covers and added to the trash pile. I will bring trash home again with me when I come back in the pickup.

The Pella repairman will be there August 29th to fix/replaced the damaged window I got from Lowes - the lower sash window had the wood delaminated. Plus, I have to help install the kitchen window during the next trip there - last week of August.

Called the PA State Police trooper - who had another 2 kids who admitted to being there, but didn't do any damage. The kid count is up to 6 now, but who was doing the damage count is 0 - ZERO. Yes, they saw other persons there and doing damage, but they didn't know their names - retarded Honor Roll students? 5.5 months since the girls were seen leaving the house.

Then I called the insurance adjustor - who told me she had just finished a letter asking for receipts and list of contents damaged or missing on the house from me. And I passed on the trooper's comments. The insurance company will most likely go hunting for repayment AFTER I get the total money for all the house damages. Still looking at $65-80,000 for everything - including stuff the insurance company isn't covering (timeshare stays, gas & tolls, food, photos) of which about $60-70,000 will be the insurance payment to me.

Now the house as it is getting more done, it is looking empty. When I walked in yesterday, my impression was - the LR and DR area is so empty. The freshly painted larger bedroom was just totally empty. The bath is (almost) done and it looks livable - still has NO DOOR. :hysterical: A new storm door installed, new locksets on the interior doors, all the closet bi-fold doors, and the majority of the wood trim still needs to be done. I need to buy 17 more 10 foot pieces of door and window trim. And order the 8 sets of bi-fold doors for the closets (and stain them, too).

So, NO new pictures, but I will get some up on the web site later next week.
 
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. . .

Called the PA State Police trooper - who had another 2 kids who admitted to being there, but didn't do any damage. The kid count is up to 6 now, but who was doing the damage count is 0 - ZERO. Yes, they saw other persons there and doing damage, but they didn't know their names - retarded Honor Roll students? 5.5 months since the girls were seen leaving the house.

. . .

Now the house as it is getting more done, it is looking empty. When I walked in yesterday, my impression was - the LR and DR area is so empty. The freshly painted larger bedroom was just totally empty. The bath is (almost) done and it looks livable - still has NO DOOR. :hysterical: . . .

The "don't rat out other kids" code is VERY strong.

Get that bathroom door, or at least hang a curtain!
 
Have you thought about asking the local paper or TV news station to do a human interest/crime piece? Perhaps it would bring unwanted attention to your home, so I'm just thinking out loud here. But, it could bring in tips and put pressure on law enforcement to solve the case. I'm sure the community would be appalled at the damage. Maybe Crimestoppers could even be persuaded to offer a reward. If nothing else, it could bring shame to the offenders (and they deserve a lot more than shame).
 
This is still an active crime investigation and some of these perps might be tried adults. Tainting the jury pool might not be a good idea as in most areas locals don't like vacation house owners - who are wealthy enough to own a house in their neighbor for weekends and who are totally redoing the place on the backs of these nice young kids.

After all, Viv's insurance company has all that money and this will help more of the locals get work. Why should the kids have to repay anyone or the insurance company - it was just a childish prank and harmless fun? And they will promise to never do it again.:rofl:

Remember, there are parts of the US where pot growing is called "farming" and standing on a street cornor waiting for a car honk is called "free enterprise". Us Tuggers are just shocked that these kids have the support of their parents - where do you think these kids picked up the attitude that this house was theirs to be trashed? It went on for several months - gossip had to been down to the kindergarden room by then. Teenagers usually can't stop running their mouths, text messaging and photgraphing/video recording themselves. No little brat sibling ratted out anyone? Not one parent caught their teenager in a "where where you" lied? No one missed curfew or came home messed up or hit a tree --- wait, they had a house to sleep it off in? What about cars parked along the road or in parent's driveways, but no driver around? Most of us KNOW actually whose car belongs on down our streets and when they will most likely disappear. These kids KNEW the one neighbor got chemo every 3rd week and the other neighbor NEVER came home til 5:30PM --- that is how they got caught. And that one neighbor knew that the owner (Viv) was not a big party animal with all the outdoor lights on and be gone by 6AM on a Sunday morning. Neighborhoods have patterns within them. It was the 2 separate neighbors who were friendly, one with no kids and older, one with a 3 yo kid, who together figured out and tooked the time to walk around Viv's house. Neither was plugged into the teenager scene and I bet both have been approached and asked "how did the cops get wind of this?" Do you think they want anyone to know it was them?
 
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