Now I think I have seen it all! [merged]

[Beefnot]

DRJKN,

I knew someone would come along and drive home the point for me. The thing about confronting people is that you never know who you are confronting. It's very annoying to most of us that people go to resorts and feel that they can do whatever they like and deny the use of resort amenities to others just in case they might want to use them "sometime" during the day.

Although I actually meant to convey the idea that maybe the person they confronted might be me, you actually said it much more eloquently. I certainly wouldn't want to get in your face over a disagreement over a pool chair. I doubt many other TUGGERS would either.

The argument about hogging pool chairs has been going on since I joined TUG and I think it will keep going on forever. The guy that confronted SMOOTH AIR was wrong. He was the guy my post was aimed at. I was hoping some folks that act like that would read it, take a breath and say wait a minute, maybe that's who said he'd throw me in the pool. Now they have to worry about you too.

So DRJKN, if somebody confronts you like I did step back, take a breath and walk away. You're a big enough guy to do that. That's what SMOOTH AIR did although I don't think I would have offered up my chair so quickly. SMOOTH AIR had a anecdote to relate on TUG and went on with his vacation. The other guy is probably still fuming because he just couldn't step back, breathe and think things through for a second or two.

BTW, I see you have only 30 posts. Stick around awhile and you'll find out that I have a funny but sometimes strange sense of humor.

I frequently see people quoting someone's number of posts. He's (I sure hope it's a he, else he is likely one big and UGLY woman) only got 30 but has been a member since 2008. Just because he hasn't posted doesn't mean he cannot read.

 

[Beefnot]

JIM .. JUST HOPE THAT YOU NEVER STAY AT A RESORT THAT I AM STAYING AT. IF YOU DID A, B OR C TO ANYONE..THEY WOULD BE CALLING THE PADDY WAGON FOR YOU.. I AM 6'1, 285 AND USE TO BOX PROFESSIONLY.
SO JUST BE NICE TO EVERY ONE AND TREAT THEM LIKE YOU WANT TO BE TREATED.

Oh, and does your response support my suggestion that there are indeed TUGgers who are inconsiderate, pad-hoarding, self-entitled summanamitches? Or were you just taking offense to the hypothetical confrontationalism you perceived in jim41's response?

 

[DKT]

I try not to let it aggravate me too much and will try to find an empty lounge chair. But if there are no "unsaved" lounges then I ask an employee to help me out. That way if/when the Entitled come back loaded for bear, I can just say, "that employee over there helped me, maybe s/he can help you, too."

This is how I also usually handle it. Or sometimes if I am not in the mood to deal with a rude person, I just say "oh no really, when I got here there was nothing on these chairs" and then smile....what can they say to that...

Denise

 

[scrapngen]

Bottom line is that one person is not any more entitled to use/save/hog a pool lounge than the next person. If I see a chair that looks unoccupied but has a pool towel or other personal item, I will very loudly and annoyingly say "Is anyone using this chair?" If no one answers that is in the pool or in line at the snack bar, etc, I simply neatly organize anything that clearly doesn't belong to the hotel, and stick it somewhere nearby.

A hotel pool towel would simply be placed on the ground. If it was a beach towel someone brought, I fold it neatly and stick it on the landscaping ledge, over the fence, whatever. Ditto for any other personal items.

I am not going to disrespect their personal items, but they are taking a chance that they could lose those items by leaving them unattended for so long, not all people are as honest as I am.

You must be present to "occupy" a pool chair. Period. It's not complicated. These chair hoggers sure wouldn't like it if the situation was reversed and they came down and found 10 people using the pool and 100 chairs "saved". First come, first served.

That being said the only time it is acceptable to put your personal items in a "spot" to save it is during Chicago winters when you have dug a parking spot out after a snowstorm (those tuggers from here know what I mean). Those that steal those spots risk their cars being keyed.

If someone came up to me and said I took their pool chair and pointed at their personal items, I would simply point out that I called out before moving their stuff to ask if the chair was in use and no one responded. If they still have a problem, they can take it to the resort management, which of course they won't do. There's no way thay they are going to be able to justify leaving their stuff on a pool chair for hours on end without being present to use it. You can't ask for relief from the authorities if you don't have "clean hands". They were in the wrong to start off with.

I pretty much agree with you - I will also check with anyone in nearby chairs, then will look around IN the pool, and of course assuming that I've already verified no use in well over an hour, will loudly ask - then will move their stuff. (Trying to find a nice, clean, dry spot for it )

My main concern with personally removing others' stuff is that sometimes those chairs that are supposedly unoccupied are actually from people like my family who play in the pool for over an hour at a time before coming out for air. However, we usually try to only occupy 2 chairs for the 4 of us somewhere toward a corner or back (preferably shady) area. We don't always know we're not occupying for an hour. BUT, we are in the pool - not at a bar or villa or lunch, etc.!! And hopefully we are cognizant enough to hear someone loudly ask if we're around. :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:

 

[DKT]

I frequently see people quoting someone's number of posts. He's (I sure hope it's a he, else he is likely one big and UGLY woman) only got 30 but has been a member since 2008. Just because he hasn't posted doesn't mean he cannot read.

Count me in as one of those who can read, but does not post alot....member since 2007. I have to say I do enjoy everyone's humor....Its nice to laugh after a long day. Sorry, but I sometimes even laugh when someone is not trying to be funny. :rofl:

As for the pool chairs at MFC we usually don't have a problem. My only complaint and its a tiny one is the chairs that sit in the water. If it just happens to be a big group, they tend to take over that area of the pool. I just wish the chairs were not in the water.

Just to add, I never move personal items only when there are just towels..

Denise

 

[jimf41]

You're right we don't have a problem now at MFC but the resort is only half built. I'm a little worried about down the road when they double the amount of units. There will be a small upper pool and a playground a little farther back but I don't see either as being able to handle twice the volume.

Fortunately MFC is the type of resort that most people don't hang around at every day. Folks are out and about at some of the beaches, shopping, day trips to ST John or other islands. Last February I'd say the pool area was at it's max comfortable capacity. You could get a chair with some shade by 9:30 or 10:00 and without shade up until about noon. Same for the beach.

When the number of units goes from the current 110 or so to about 212 I think the pool arrival times are going to inch closer to 8:00. Still that's a lot better than some resorts.

 

[ampaholic]

OK I give what is MFC short for?

I think I'm going to start a thread about a pet peeve even worse than cushion hogging - using abbreviations in a snobbish way: not at least once spelling out what they abbreviate.



Please don't take me totally seriously - or totally flippantly. :whoopie:

 

[MALC9990]

My peeve is not with someone who takes a sunbed, uses it and then perhaps goes off for lunch or to the pool or beach for an hour or two. Those beds will be obviously in use and occupied. My peeve is with those who send someone down to the pool at 7am and who places a book or a tube of sunscreen on 4 or some times 6 sunbeds - always the ones in the prime spot and then they are not used for hours and hours. Then at about 2pm a few ladies will appear having been to the spa for a facial or a manicure or whatever. They then use the beds for an hour before departing again.

These are the ones I target and occupy. When someone does eventually appear, I just say that the beds were unoccupied when I came down at 9 am and I and wife have been there for hours - so how could they be their sunbeds.

 

[Beefnot]

OK I give what is MFC short for?

I think I'm going to start a thread about a pet peeve even worse than cushion hogging - using abbreviations in a snobbish way: not at least once spelling out what they abbreviate.



Please don't take me totally seriously - or totally flippantly. :whoopie:

If you look at the resorts listed under DKT and jim41, you will figure it out.

 

[ampaholic]

If you look at the resorts listed under DKT and jim41, you will figure it out.

Ah, man couldn't you just tell me, now I have to look at their "bio" to figure out the lingo?

Scratch that, I'll try again:

I'm 6'1" 285 and I used to box .... uh, wait ... never-mind, my boxing record was 0-1 (tried it once at age 12 - didn't like getting hit). Of course later on at Parris Island I had to get over that aversion - Semper Fi.

 

[jimf41]

OK I give what is MFC short for?

I think I'm going to start a thread about a pet peeve even worse than cushion hogging - using abbreviations in a snobbish way: not at least once spelling out what they abbreviate.



Please don't take me totally seriously - or totally flippantly. :whoopie:

I apologize. Abbreviations used to be my pet peeve also but it's one of those things you just have to get used to on TUG. Using the II (Interval International) abbreviations is OK ( I have no idea what OK stands for) as long as you reference them in parenthesis as I just did. MFC (Marriott Frenchmans Cove) is Marriott Frenchmans Cove.

When I was in HS (high school) I took a typing class and made it up to 43 WPM (words per minute). I have since completely lost that skill and now use only the middle finger on my right hand. Occasionally I will use my thumb for the space bar.

Currently complete laziness is my only excuse for using abbreviations.

 

[dioxide45]

OK I give what is MFC short for?

I think I'm going to start a thread about a pet peeve even worse than cushion hogging - using abbreviations in a snobbish way: not at least once spelling out what they abbreviate.



Please don't take me totally seriously - or totally flippantly. :whoopie:

MFC = Marriott's Frenchman's Cove (in St Thomas USVI). I think many people are so used to using the II codes when speaking of their resorts. Then of course there are those that don't use the II code, such as MOC for Maui Ocean Club, whose II code is MMO.

 

[ampaholic]

I apologize. Abbreviations used to be my pet peeve also but it's one of those things you just have to get used to on TUG. Using the II (Interval International) abbreviations is OK ( I have no idea what OK stands for) as long as you reference them in parenthesis as I just did. MFC (Marriott Frenchmans Cove) is Marriott Frenchmans Cove.

When I was in HS (high school) I took a typing class and made it up to 43 WPM (words per minute). I have since completely lost that skill and now use only the middle finger on my right hand. Occasionally I will use my thumb for the space bar.

Currently complete laziness is my only excuse for using abbreviations.

Thanks I won't forget MFC now.

Where I live there are scores of drivers who apparently also have lost their skills at communicating and now just shortcut with the middle finger on their right hand.

:hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:

 

[DKT]

You're right we don't have a problem now at MFC but the resort is only half built. I'm a little worried about down the road when they double the amount of units. There will be a small upper pool and a playground a little farther back but I don't see either as being able to handle twice the volume.

Fortunately MFC is the type of resort that most people don't hang around at every day. Folks are out and about at some of the beaches, shopping, day trips to ST John or other islands. Last February I'd say the pool area was at it's max comfortable capacity. You could get a chair with some shade by 9:30 or 10:00 and without shade up until about noon. Same for the beach.

When the number of units goes from the current 110 or so to about 212 I think the pool arrival times are going to inch closer to 8:00. Still that's a lot better than some resorts.

I agree, it will be interesting to see how everything shakes out once the resort is full.

We are pretty spoiled there, so I am a little nervous about how we will like Aruba this summer.

Denise

 

[suzannesimon]

The only time I've seen Frenchman's Cove pool near capacity is on check-in/check-out days when the check-out people are still hanging around and the check-in people are waiting for rooms. Now with the Destination Club, it might even out the crowds throughout the week.

 

[MALC9990]

Selfish sun bed blockers [merged here]

We are in our last few days at Phuket Beach Club. This morning all the prime beds by the pool had items placed on them at 06:30. At 10:30 I moved items from 4 beds for our group. We will see what happens. Pool rules posted by the pool state clearly no reserving beds and that items placed and left for 45 mins and beds not used will be removed.

 

[dioxide45]

This was thouroughly hashed out in this recent thread.

 

[MALC9990]

This was thouroughly hashed out in this recent thread.

I know but could not find it. Anyway just a small victory for those who use the beds. They arrived at 11:07 and I sent them away to find another bed or two elsewhere. They probably went off to complain to management. I am now waiting for the return match.:hysterical:

 

[Smooth Air]

MAL,
So...what happened? What did they say?

 

[MALC9990]

MAL,
So...what happened? What did they say?

They said that every one was doing it and they were just looking for a bed - however they had placed items on the beds at before 9 am and came to use them at after 11 am.

Anyway they never came back and this morning there was no sign of them either.

It has got quieter today with fewer people so no issue today.

I guess the return match may happen when we arrive in St Kitts in late April.

 

[Smooth Air]

MAL,
Good to know. I am going to try your approach next time I am faced with "chair hogs".

Enjoy your last few days @ Phuket! How's the weather?