Henry M.
TUG Member
I own at WKORV and WKORVN and haven’t received any information about this.
I like the original days when all resorts were mandatory and MFs were $1200.
The inventory will be completely fragmented, but each of the above categories is a separate inventory pool with separate (and proportionate) ownership. No one's chances of getting a specific week is adversely affected, except the numbers may change from 5,100 owners wanting the same 100 units to 510 owners wanting the same 10 units (the owners/units ratio remaining 51:1).
The more such products the more chances the inventory is not handled properly. Not necessarily intentionally but because we are all humans and mistakes do occur. The people programming have to deal with units in different seasons, sizes, views, phases and probably others. We know that Vistana has the ability to allocate the weeks as it pleases: it may give one product more availability in a particular week and it leaves another product with more weeks in other times of the same season. The issue at Lagunamar where in the last 3-4 years regular platinum plus owners have not been able to book 51 and 52 (even if they are entitled to but the system always shows zero inventory when the window opens) tells me that either Vistana is getting them all or that the few 51-52 weeks available are allocated (improperly) exclusively to one of these new products like Westin Aventuras.
I may have not received this email because my WKORVN weeks are OF and WKORVN and WKORV OF are not part of the Flex program. Therefore, if an OF owner traded in for Flex, it would be very difficult to get an OF villa during anything other than low season since reservations could not be made in the 12-8 month window.
Here is the reservation I was talking about - it was made in September with Nanea Home options.
This is the point: This is a home resort reservation, made with Nanea Home Options, at WKORV-N, more then 9 months before check-in. It is not a Staroption reservation. So that means that Westin Flex that includes all of the Maui resorts has been in place at least since September - but it wasn't publicly disclosed.
The Westin Kāʻanapali Ocean Resort Villas North
170 Kai Ala Drive, Lāhainā, Maui, Hawaiʻi 96761, United States
Phone: 808-667-3200 | Fax: 808-667-3201
Home Options used for this reservation: 148,100
Confirmation Number: [redacted]
Guest Name: [redacted]
Confirmation Date: 10/19/2018
Arrival: Saturday, 07/27/2019 at 4PM, local time
Departure: Saturday, 07/06/2019 at 10AM, local time
Villa Type: 2 Bedroom Lockoff Villa
Villa Number: Floating - assigned at check-in
Occupancy: 8 Maximum
Accessibility Features: Does Not Apply
Housekeeping Fees: Does Not Apply
Quick question: how can the departure date be prior to the arrival date?
The above is not how my Westin Flex Home Resort Reservation looks for WKORVN.
[redacted - because I edited my post.]
Are you saying that you used Nanea Flex Options to make a WKORV-N reservation?
Did you actually see a screen print of the reservation?
maybe to get access to booking a day or two before the week owners.
This is a different kind of reservation - it uses Nanea Home Options to reserve WKORV-N during the home resort reservation period - that is my point.
I'm holding the actual reservation in my hands - it is 100% Legit.
they do but they are not restricted to weekend check in. That means they can go a day before a regular owner for a Thu-Thu reservation. That week will obviously no longer be available to the regular week owner. If they do not manage the inventory properly (and there is no evidence that they do) they have in fact created 2 classes owners not only in terms of flexibility but also in terms of priority.It sounds like they have the same 12 month window as weeks owners.
they do but they are not restricted to weekend check in. That means they can go a day before a regular owner for a Thu-Thu reservation. That week will obviously no longer be available to the regular week owner. If they do not manage the inventory properly (and there is no evidence that they do) they have in fact created 2 classes owners not only in terms of flexibility but also in terms of priority.
they do but they are not restricted to weekend check in. That means they can go a day before a regular owner for a Thu-Thu reservation. That week will obviously no longer be available to the regular week owner. If they do not manage the inventory properly (and there is no evidence that they do) they have in fact created 2 classes owners not only in terms of flexibility but also in terms of priority.
Hi Dave - Nanea Flex and Westin Flex are supposedly 2 different programs. If you look at the Westin Flex list of resorts in the first post, Nanea is not included. However, now it appears that they do indeed overlap, or perhaps, they are the same program, and Vistana just failed to disclose that.
As I said before, VSN has a lot of flexibility in allocating specific weeks of the year to specific products within the same season.They can do something illegally I assume, but not sure why they would as they do not need to (beyond the legality).
Flex reservations need to come from Flex inventory, and deeded reservations need to come from deeded inventory.
Beyond VSE/VSN complicity in an illegal act (doubtful) - Flex reservations can do what they want.
The danger in Flex is that people wanting to go to HI may end up in a non-HI Resort especially if they want to reserve HI in high season, or not reserving at 12 months out.
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