New scientific paper: offshore wind turbines alter marine eco-system, could shift ocean currents

[emeryjre]

ESS = Energy Storage Systems
SMNR = Small Modular Nuclear Reactors
Increasing Costs = Big Buck increases for any number of reasons See article above from Clean Technica

 

[Big Matt]

My guess is that we will have alternative energy solutions not too far out. We've used electricity widely for about 125 years give or take. Everything we discuss is how we can harness power to generate electricity. I wouldn't bet on electricity being the method of power distribution long term.

 

[Carolinian]

My guess is that we will have alternative energy solutions not too far out. We've used electricity widely for about 125 years give or take. Everything we discuss is how we can harness power to generate electricity. I wouldn't bet on electricity being the method of power distribution long term.

Geothermal is one source that makes sense. It does not trash the environment like land-intensive wind and solar. Nuclear is also a proven technology that has been improved by the new small modular reactor designs.

 

[Carolinian]

German environmentalists have been fighting and often successfully suing wind and solar developers there due to the environmental damage they do. Now it looks like Australian environmentalists are also in action to stop wind farms:

Rainforest Reserves Australia

www.rainforestreserves.org.au

 

[Carolinian]

Nuclear Power Baby!

What is interesting is that with the German government shutting down all nuclear power in the country, and power prices the highest in the world, German attitudes toward nuclear power are shifting in favor of it. In Spring 2021, Germans favored nuclear by a margin of 49% to 42% in the polls, that margin has now shifted to 67% to 29% in favor.

 

[T-Dot-Traveller]

Hi @Carolinian - The (German) Green Party went from 22% to 19% approval of using Nuclear / when every other party's
members opinion went the other way.

Is their party platform - "Freeze in the dark and enjoy it " ?

 

[pedro47]

When you visit countries liked France, Spain and Portugal you can see wind turbines in the ocean and on land everywhere .

 

[Carolinian]

When you visit countries liked France, Spain and Portugal you can see wind turbines in the ocean and on land everywhere .

France's main source of power is nuclear, a big reason its electric rates are less than half of those in Germany. Macron did try to push wind for a while, but France recently doubled down on nuclear with renovations to extend the life of existing nuclear plants and authorization of construction of many more. Scandanavian countries are also moving to nuclear and away from wind and solar. Last year, Norway's Supreme Court shut down a major wind farm project in a lawsuit from Sami reindeer herders.

 

[Superchief]

Carolinian should feel vindicated from all of the attacks on his posts regarding this issue. I saw on the news tonight that several states and countries are abandoning their offshore wind turbine plans. A lot of money was wasted on these programs. At least they are now admitting their mistakes and cutting their losses. This is what happens when unproven technologies are rushed through the system.

 

[geist1223]

So long as it is "Green" who cares about reality.

 

[Carolinian]

Access Restricted

 

[emeryjre]

Access Restricted

Paywall

 

[geist1223]

I also remember reading in the past 18 months on BBC about some of the Wind Farms already built were facing long delays to be plugged into the Grid. If you can not deliver your Power to the Grid no income.

 

[Carolinian]

Collapse of projects shows again that wind power is not affordable

The renewable-power fantasy is being blown apart by furious financial headwinds.

nypost.com

 

[emeryjre]

The last several months have not been good ones for offshore wind projects
As I posted last month, wind projects are being cancelled because of higher material costs, etc., etc.
The latest blow to carbon neutral energy projects is the cancellation of the use of Small Modular Nuclear Reactors in Utah
This would have been the first implementation of a reactor approved and licensed by all the controlling agencies involved in Nuclear Power Plants

Biden's clean energy agenda suffers a big blow when a first-of-its-kind nuclear project is cancelled | Fortune

NuScale Power has the only small modular nuclear reactor design certified for use in the United States.

fortune.com

 

[Carolinian]

Here is another new peer reviewed scientific paper on the environmental and economic damage from offshore wind turbines, this one focused on waters off Scotland, published in Ocean and Coastal Management

https://docs.wind-watch.org/Goddijn-Murphy.pdf

 

[pedro47]

Question? How learn have wind turbines been used in Europe and what have been the effects on the environment?

 

[Carolinian]

Question? How learn have wind turbines been used in Europe and what have been the effects on the environment?

Not sure how long, but there is some good documentation and scientific studies on negative impacts to birdlife and marine life. There was even a major EU environmental fine for a large fish kill from an onshore wind farm in the UK.

 

[easyrider]

My guess is the next electrical power generation will be nuclear power because the cost is high, has many delays that can slow or stop construction, creates jobs in many sectors and the debt helps create the money supply through government debt.

Bill

 

[Brett]

But coal mines are making a comback !

 

[Tia]

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But coal mines are making a comback !

they can't produce enough is my understanding for what we all use.

 

[pedro47]

Not sure how long, but there is some good documentation and scientific studies on negative impacts to birdlife and marine life. There was even a major EU environmental fine for a large fish kill from an onshore wind farm in the UK.

Are there any positive documentation and scientific studies on wind turbines ?

There are over twenty yellow wind turbines at the Port of Portsmouth, Virginia waiting to be install by Dominion Resources.

 

[Brett]

Are there any positive documentation and scientific studies on wind turbines ?

There are over twenty yellow wind turbines at the Port of Portsmouth, Virginia waiting to be install by Dominion Resources.

I've seen those !

 

[pedro47]

I've seen those !

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Thanks

 

[Carolinian]

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But coal mines are making a comback !

Balsa wood for wind turbine blades is deforesting the Amazon, the lungs of the planet.

And it is not just the Amazon. Scottish Forestry, a government agency has calculated that 13.9 million trees have been clear cut just on government land in Scotland, not including private land, to put up "green energy" wind turbines and solar farms. Trees take in CO2 in photosynthesis and give off oxygen. That seems to be a lot of damage to the environment, and that is just Scotland.

https://docs.wind-watch.org/Scottish-Forestry-FoI-19-02646.pdf

So building wind turbines and installing wind turbines both lead to deforestation. Environmentalists used to be known as "tree huggers" but I guess not anymore!