New scientific paper: offshore wind turbines alter marine eco-system, could shift ocean currents

[emeryjre]

Yeah, but many farmers oppose solar / wind in their areas:

Rural Backlash Against Renewables Surges, With 67 Rejections of Solar in U.S. Over Past 11 Months

The hype about wind and solar energy keeps colliding with the hard reality of land-use conflicts. Nowhere is that more obvious than in Ohio, where 41 townships have rejected or restricted the expansio

www.realclearenergy.org

True solar farmers sound alarm on ‘green energy’ panels

Sixty Amish signed a letter of concern regarding the threat to their way of life by the many solar projects being imposed on our region by Gov. Andrew Cuomo. They delivered the letter to the Chautauqua Town Board. Amish farmers lease land from local and absentee landowners to augment their...

www.observertoday.com

The wind turbines on his Colorado farm are 20 years old. Who’s going to take them down?

The wind industry on the Eastern Plains is running into the same concerns that once plagued the fossil fuel industry.

coloradosun.com

Not in North Dakota

 

[Carolinian]

You never want to take any responsability for your recommendations
You suggested Germany import Polish Energy
There is zero evidence of China production injuring anyone outside of China
But there is plenty of evidence of Polish Coal Mining and energy production killing EU citizens
Man Up
Take some responsibility for your viewpoints

Clearly you did not watch the Australian News 7 channel's "Spotlight" program above if you don't think China's actions to secure materials to build wind and solar equipment have not harmed and killed people outside China.

Take some responsibility for your viewpoints.

I hate to "pull a Brett" and post it again, but maybe you should watch it this time.

 

[Carolinian]

Gas power making a comeback in Texas’ grid connection queue

Data centers are largely driving the sudden rise in natural gas power projects on the waiting list to connect to Texas' grid.

www.texastribune.org

 

[emeryjre]

You have put out your position
Continue to kill European Citizens by the promotion of coal to produce Electricity
Got It

I understand you will never change your position

Most German citizens have been willing to pay the price to avoid coal pollution deaths

You, who is not a citizen of Germany have done nothing but criticize their attempts to clean the air
Move forward from a fuel used for the past 4 centuries and is a proven killer

Act like it is a personal affront to you that they would be willing to sacrifice to do that

It has become progressively obvious how selfish you are with your positions and advocacy

 

[Carolinian]

You have put out your position
Continue to kill European Citizens by the promotion of coal to produce Electricity
Got It

I understand you will never change your position

Most German citizens have been willing to pay the price to avoid coal pollution deaths

You, who is not a citizen of Germany have done nothing but criticize their attempts to clean the air
Move forward from a fuel used for the past 4 centuries and is a proven killer

Act like it is a personal affront to you that they would be willing to sacrifice to do that

It has become progressively obvious how selfish you are with your positions and advocacy

Wow, you are off the deep end. Coal did pollute in a way harmful to human health at one time, but scrubbers have changed that a long time ago. The London smog of the 1950s is no more either there or elsewhere in Europe. The anti-coal folks now call coal "dirty" over CO2, which does not harm human health, and is an essential nutrient for plants. Their attack on CO2 is based wholly on the CO2 global warming theory, not harm to human health from CO2.

Your agenda advocacy is so strong that you refuse to even consider the harms to human health from wind turbines identified by the World Health Organization, much less the huge environmental harm from deforestation and destruction of wildlife from hugely land intensive wind and solar.

As usual, you try to project anyone who does not adhere to the climate industrial complex agenda of wind and solar as being only for coal. No, I am for ALL reliable baseload power sources - nuclear, gas, hydro, geothermal, coal. It is the environmentally harmful undependable, overly expensive intermittent sources like wind and solar that I have no use for.

While I am not a German citizen, my ancestry is mostly German, from German settlers of Catawba County, NC in the 1740s, with my ancestors mostly from the Rheinland-Palatinate, but also branches from the Kingdom of Prussia and from Schleswig-Holstein.

As to German citizens and Merkel's Energiewende, the times they are a-changin'. Germany's main opposition party, which advocates putting an end to that policy, and removing all the wind turbines, is leading by double digits in both German state elections that are coming up in September, and in the first one, in Saxony-Anhalt, the latest poll puts them on the knife edge of being able to win an outright majority without any coalition partners. Even the current leadership of Merkel's own party, presently the lead party in the national governing coalition, is backpedaling on the wind / solar agenda as the column their Minister of Energy published in the Frankfurt newspaper that I linked, shows.

 

[Carolinian]

Brett, I know you are a huge fan of Communist China from all your posts on them, but did you know they are the world's leading producer and user of your big bugaboo coal?

 

[emeryjre]

As much as I will miss these astounding circular discussions of electrical production
It is time I move on
I have been asked to contribute to more immediate issues
Since it involves US politics
I will not be discussing it in any manner, shape or form on this website

The project will be taking any free time I may have between now and November
Best wishes to any readers still following this thread

 

[emeryjre]

Wow, you are off the deep end. Coal did pollute in a way harmful to human health at one time, but scrubbers have changed that a long time ago. The London smog of the 1950s is no more either there or elsewhere in Europe. The anti-coal folks now call coal "dirty" over CO2, which does not harm human health, and is an essential nutrient for plants. Their attack on CO2 is based wholly on the CO2 global warming theory, not harm to human health from CO2.

Your agenda advocacy is so strong that you refuse to even consider the harms to human health from wind turbines identified by the World Health Organization, much less the huge environmental harm from deforestation and destruction of wildlife from hugely land intensive wind and solar.

As usual, you try to project anyone who does not adhere to the climate industrial complex agenda of wind and solar as being only for coal. No, I am for ALL reliable baseload power sources - nuclear, gas, hydro, geothermal, coal. It is the environmentally harmful undependable, overly expensive intermittent sources like wind and solar that I have no use for.

While I am not a German citizen, my ancestry is mostly German, from German settlers of Catawba County, NC in the 1740s, with my ancestors mostly from the Rheinland-Palatinate, but also branches from the Kingdom of Prussia and from Schleswig-Holstein.

As to German citizens and Merkel's Energiewende, the times they are a-changin'. Germany's main opposition party, which advocates putting an end to that policy, and removing all the wind turbines, is leading by double digits in both German state elections that are coming up in September, and in the first one, in Saxony-Anhalt, the latest poll puts them on the knife edge of being able to win an outright majority without any coalition partners. Even the current leadership of Merkel's own party, presently the lead party in the national governing coalition, is backpedaling on the wind / solar agenda as the column their Minister of Energy published in the Frankfurt newspaper that I linked, shows.

Just one last thing to tidy up
Read post about the air pollution numbers from Poland
Read the number of deaths from respiratory failures in Poland
(around 50K a year)
Someone is lying about "clean coal"
Scrubbers take out a percentage of the Particulate Matter
They do not "scrub" out all of the Sulphur Dioxide, Nitrous Oxide, Mercury, and other heavy metals

The latest standards for the reduction of these gases and particulates was canceled by the current administration

The only good thing happening is the lack of new planned coal facilities in the US
Has a lot to do with the fact the last two major coal plants built are no longer functioning
Suffered some type of mechanical breakdown
I guess you could call it a drought of coal fired electrical production

 

[Carolinian]

Just one last thing to tidy up
Read post about the air pollution numbers from Poland
Read the number of deaths from respiratory failures in Poland
(around 50K a year)
Someone is lying about "clean coal"
Scrubbers take out a percentage of the Particulate Matter
They do not "scrub" out all of the Sulphur Dioxide, Nitrous Oxide, Mercury, and other heavy metals

The latest standards for the reduction of these gases and particulates was canceled by the current administration

The only good thing happening is the lack of new planned coal facilities in the US
Has a lot to do with the fact the last two major coal plants built are no longer functioning
Suffered some type of mechanical breakdown
I guess you could call it a drought of coal fired electrical production

IMHO, the President of Poland knows more about what his country needs in these areas than you do. He is currently leading an effort to set up a national referendum on junking the European Union's Green Deal and carbon trading scheme in Poland . That will help lower utility prices in his country.

Again, you can refer to the World Health Organization's health assessment for Europe for the threats to human health from living around wind turbines/

Respiratory failure is caused by a lot of things, and according to my wife who is a doctor, it is unlikely to be directly caused by anything related to coal. Any kind of smoke could, of course, have some contributing effect, but it is hard to measure how much. Trying to blame those numbers on coal is just delusional on your part.

 

[emeryjre]

Some Presidents could care less about the standard of living for their constituents
As we are seeing around the world

Nobody lives near wind turbines if they are located offshore

 

[geist1223]

Nobody lives near wind turbines if they are located offshore

What about Migratory Birds and Creatures of the Oceans?

 

[Brett]

What about Migratory Birds and Creatures of the Oceans?

save the whales !

.

 

[Carolinian]

Two new polls show the turn of public opinion on wind / solar.

In Australia, what had been a small party (it only won 3% nationally in last year's parliament election) that is leading the charge to stop the deployment of wind and solar, is now in first place nationally according to AusPoll, 3.5 points ahead of the governing pro-wind/solar party, and with a two party coalition that is skeptical on wind and solar running third.

In Germany, the country's main opposition party, which calls for an end to the wind / solar Energiewende and removal of the wind turbines, has expanded its lead in the upcoming Saxony-Anhalt state election to 18 points ahead of the second placed party, which is now itself also backpedaling on wind and solar. The two parties most supportive of wind and solar are in single digits, one of them below the threshold to win any seats at all. This poll was by INSA.

 

[Carolinian]

Some Presidents could care less about the standard of living for their constituents
As we are seeing around the world

Nobody lives near wind turbines if they are located offshore

It is good that Polish President Nawrocki is pushing that national referendum to help his country's utility customers by blocking the EU Green Deal and carbon trading scheme in his country.

 

[Carolinian]

What about Migratory Birds and Creatures of the Oceans?

Yes, offshore wind is not only one of the most expensive ways to make electricity, but it is deadly to sea creatures like whales and sea birds.

 

[Brett]

Two new polls show the turn of public opinion on wind / solar.

In Australia, what had been a small party (it only won 3% nationally in last year's parliament election) that is leading the charge to stop the deployment of wind and solar, is now in first place nationally according to AusPoll, 3.5 points ahead of the governing pro-wind/solar party, and with a two party coalition that is skeptical on wind and solar running third.

In Germany, the country's main opposition party, which calls for an end to the wind / solar Energiewende and removal of the wind turbines, has expanded its lead in the upcoming Saxony-Anhalt state election to 18 points ahead of the second placed party, which is now itself also backpedaling on wind and solar. The two parties most supportive of wind and solar are in single digits, one of them below the threshold to win any seats at all. This poll was by INSA.

LOL
Something has happened in the last few months to 'turn public opinon' on solar energy

What could it be?

 

[Carolinian]

LOL
Something has happened in the last few months to 'turn public opinon' on solar energy

What could it be?

Sorry, Brett, but that is NOT the way polling is moving with the steady rise in the polling for parties that oppose wind and solar. Or the fact that the big winner in the recent UK local elections was a party that calls Net Zero CO2 policies "Net Stupid." That has all transpired since the Mideast conflict. Or the poll I posted in Australia on a big increase in Australians favoring more exploration for oil and gas.

 

[Carolinian]

Europe’s Green Deal Is Unraveling | The Daily Economy

Europe’s centrally planned climate agenda has collided with economic reality, weakening growth and fueling political backlash.

thedailyeconomy.org

I

 

[Brett]

Sorry, Brett, but that is NOT the way polling is moving with the steady rise in the polling for parties that oppose wind and solar. Or the fact that the big winner in the recent UK local elections was a party that calls Net Zero CO2 policies "Net Stupid." That has all transpired since the Mideast conflict. Or the poll I posted in Australia on a big increase in Australians favoring more exploration for oil and gas.

Apology accepted

.

 

[Carolinian]

Has them in the same spot as the 13 Eastern US States
Which are part of the PJM Interconnect
Struggling to meet the upsurge in demand for electricity

I will remind you North Carolina is part of the PJM Interconnect

PJM Dumps Wind and Solar in New Interconnection Queue

Wind and solar should "learn to code"

energybadboys.substack.com

 

[Carolinian]

Apology accepted


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Claims of future numbers are just hopium. They are for future years that haven't happened yet. These numbers are not real, just the projections of the future wishes of the true believers of the climate industrial complex. Look instead at the real and CURRENT poll numbers I have posted of parties OPPOSED to the climate industrial complex. That is where the reality lies. While I would accept your apology, I doubt your tunnel vision would permit one.

As usual, you give no source for your propaganda. The few times you do they can be amusing, like that investment bank that specializes in lending to the climate industrial complex (bias, ya think?) or even a "world socialist" website.

 

[emeryjre]

PJM Dumps Wind and Solar in New Interconnection Queue

Wind and solar should "learn to code"

energybadboys.substack.com

TL; DR
Can you explain what this graphic actually means

 

[emeryjre]

Here is an interesting request to connect to the grid
From a Fusion Energy Project
The Connection Request is a step in the process
Needed if they ever really are able to produce electricity via Fusion an transmit this power over a utility grid system
Producing electricity from Fusion Power is the "Holy Grail" of energy production

I came across this article while researching AI Data Centers Electrical Use
AI Data Centers are the new "Flash Point" in community, regional, state, federal politics

AI Data Centers are bidding up anything and everything related to Electrical Production
They are moving to connect directly to electrical power sources and operate "behind the meter"
This means they will not consume electricity that is part of a local utility

Had an opportunity to visit an AI Data Center under construction yesterday
With a supplier to the project who also an acquaintance
What was interesting to me was their backup plan for electrical production if their grid connection was delayed

Around 300 Diesel Generators,
They were testing one out
Had to have noise protection to be anywhere near it

Here is the article on the Fusion Power Project and request for a grid connection

MSN

 

[Carolinian]

TL; DR
Can you explain what this graphic actually means

The linked article explains what the graphic means. The graphic is from that article.

 

[emeryjre]

The linked article explains what the graphic means. The graphic is from that article.

Again you can't explain it in your own words
If you can't explain to a group of 4th graders, you don't understand it