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New levels ocean pt tour

With respect to earning the levels, this is a dumb thing to chase as it is just too expensive and there are better alternatives to achieve the same results. So, if one earns a level, take it and make the most of it. We will be at the Pinnacle level when it starts so I looked over the levels and the incremental benefits. It is interesting to note that the likelihood of using or even caring about the incremental benefits lessen as you move up the tiers. Of course, they count every benefit as if it matters, even the dumb ones.
 
We will be at the Pinnacle level when it starts so I looked over the levels and the incremental benefits.
Is your account already showing that level?

There's a Pinkgrape on Facebook flashing a picture of a card about, can you confirm the new levels have been assigned? Thanks 🙏
 
They've already killed the enrollment pathway IMO. This is just them doubling down on that issue. For me and most of us, the carrot is simply too far away to even consider. I thought they might require a minimum purchase to "re-qualify" like Bluegreen did for their new level.
I agree. If the next level up was only 3,000 to 5,000 points, and if we could actually use those points, and the benefits of the next level had enough value, then maybe it would be a consideration.

What they fail to realize is that you can eat an apple in several small bites easier than trying to eat an apple in one large bite. The previous levels demonstrate that rational thinking whereas these new levels will only satisfy the complaints of small percentage of mega owners that they should have more benefits.

I understand current owners are your best prospects. Unfortunately, without an influx of new owners, the existing well of current owners wanting to buy additional points will eventually run dry.

The entry price for new owners is, IMHO, too high for many gen X and millennials to afford. The cost of housing, food and transportation will put expensive vacation ownership on the back burner. We purchased our first timeshare from developer in 1998 for $18,900. That was a 2 bedroom lockout unit and we got 2 weeks of vacation out of it every year. We were always able to exchange the studio up in size to a 1 bedroom. At that time in our lives, 2 weeks was more than enough based on available vacation time and the ability to afford the MF’s, which were around $600/year. We did purchase an additional week the next year at a discounted rate of $14,900, pre construction, because we wanted to be able to take the kids and we wanted to take 2 full vacation weeks per year. We paid cash for both deeds at that time.

In today’s prices with inflation that original $18,900 week should only cost $37,800 (1998 dollar adjusted for inflation). Has anyone seen a 2 bedroom deeded week at such a low price from a developer? The last time we toured our home resort at Breckenridge Grand Vacation Club, which still sells deeded floating weeks, a non-peak summer week (May-June-last half of August and September) was going for a little less than $70,000! Abound points are worse in that you’ll need, at a minimum, 6,000 points to get two weeks vacation. 6,000 points at developer pricing is $104,520! Holy cash cow Batman!

So new buyers are being priced out of the picture and existing owners are getting older and cutting back. Talk about potentially painting yourself into a corner. Now management comes along and sets the bar so high for the next levels that I see very few jumping at the opportunity. I know the price tag is WAY out of my league.

It will be interesting to see the earnings call in the coming years. Maybe I’m wrong and these wheeler dealers have found a way to sell the emperor some new clothes.
 
Is your account already showing that level?

There's a Pinkgrape on Facebook flashing a picture of a card about, can you confirm the new levels have been assigned? Thanks 🙏
I've been advised that we are at that level by our MVC guy and another MVC person. They have told me the roll-out begins August 1st. Gosh, nearing 80 and getting all these youthful opportunities. The kids and grandkids may have to use the value added.

The next sales ploy will probably be to have us buy more points so we can split the account into two memberships for our heirs. They will also probably announce that one can pay the maintenance fees with Social Security checks and a string of rest homes they have converted into timeshares.
 
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I've been advised that we are at that level by our MVC guy and another MVC person. They have told me the roll-out begins August 1st. Gosh, nearing 80 and getting all these youthful opportunities. The kids and grandkids may have to use the value added.

The next sales ploy will probably be to have us buy more points so we can split the account into two memberships for our heirs. They will also probably announce that one can pay the maintenance fees with Social Security checks and a string of rest homes they have converted into timeshares.
The pinkgrape advises that they have already used the 50% discount and enhanced Bonvoy conversion rate. Apparently even at those elevated levels there are those more special than others 🥳. Enjoy
 
I would tend to agree except, while I can’t book what I want using my week, I CAN book what I want using points. The problem is the cost in points exceeds the points given if I elect my week. There is definitely a bias towards points reservations at some resorts and especially with the more popular weeks.
This is especially true with Oceana Palms. I have a gold week and nothing is available when I try to make a reservation for late October or early November. To make matters worse, Every week during Gold season costs more points than are allocated by Abound. This is the worst skim in the system.
 
The pinkgrape advises that they have already used the 50% discount and enhanced Bonvoy conversion rate. Apparently even at those elevated levels there are those more special than others 🥳. Enjoy
Then we should know those corp/promo codes to use on Marriott.com for Reserve and Pinnacle?
 
Just noticed you list 1 year as the banking duration for Chairman’s Club.
Thanks. Fixed and edited the post that contains the PDF. If you see anything else, let me know.
 
Just got a text from my contact in Spain that he has “some crazy deals to get people to reserve and pinnacle”
I told him that the word is that requalified weeks/points are not allowed. So will see what he says. I will also find out those said deals.
 
My contact confirmed requalified week/points will not count.


Did you ask him by any chance who exactly they are trying to sell to?

The pitch to the “informed“ buyers for the last 15+ years (even longer with Vistana and previously Starwood) has been buy direct and requalify some resale in the process to get to a higher level. Getting to 50,000 points by buying 50,000 points is about an $800k expense. I imagine that subset of potential buyers would be highly limited…


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Did you ask him by any chance who exactly they are trying to sell to?

The pitch to the “informed“ buyers for the last 15+ years (even longer with Vistana and previously Starwood) has been buy direct and requalify some resale in the process to get to a higher level. Getting to 50,000 points by buying 50,000 points is about an $800k expense. I imagine that subset of potential buyers would be highly limited…


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I have asked and waiting for the reply
 
My contact confirmed requalified week/points will not count.

Spain resale weeks are pretty cheap to buy. If buying direct isn't going to count towards membership tiers I'm not sure what value there would be in buying direct anymore. Our plan was to buy a couple of Spain weeks resale and then to buy direct to qualify those weeks. I'm trying to figure out the new plan and it likey will be just buying several resale weeks as cheap as possible.
 
Did you ask him by any chance who exactly they are trying to sell to?

The pitch to the “informed“ buyers for the last 15+ years (even longer with Vistana and previously Starwood) has been buy direct and requalify some resale in the process to get to a higher level. Getting to 50,000 points by buying 50,000 points is about an $800k expense. I imagine that subset of potential buyers would be highly limited…


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I also told him that when Marriott took over Vistana they took away the benefits of the 5 star elites from and now they want you to pay more to get benefits back that you already had.
 
Spain resale weeks are pretty cheap to buy. If buying direct isn't going to count towards membership tiers I'm not sure what value there would be in buying direct anymore. Our plan was to buy a couple of Spain weeks resale and then to buy direct to qualify those weeks. I'm trying to figure out the new plan and it likey will be just buying several resale weeks as cheap as possible.
That is what I did. I bought the 3 bedroom seafront lockoff and requalified with another 3 bedroom lockoff seafront . I have a 2 bedroom seafront I bought resale last year.
My contact is now in Cancun that is where the deals are.
 
My contact confirmed requalified week/points will not count.
Rule #1 of timeshare: if it’s not in writing, delivered directly from the developer and accompanied by their name and logo, etc., it’s not necessarily true. I’m not doubting that you were told this, but I’ll believe it when it’s on the MVC website or otherwise delivered in writing. Until then, it’s (potentially, at least) just another lie or miscommunication from sales, maybe a misunderstanding, maybe a tactic. And maybe it’s even true, but these forums are awash in verbal claims from MVC representatives that turned out to be false.
 
My contact confirmed requalified week/points will not count.
BUT...today only, you can do a super duper amnesty requalification, by buying more points today, to qualify your previously requalified ownership, that we disqualified during this ownership reclassification. Trust us....its a great deal. ;)
 
BUT...today only, you can do a super duper amnesty requalification, by buying more points today, to qualify your previously requalified ownership, that we disqualified during this ownership reclassification. Trust us....its a great deal. ;)

Sounds about right ....!!!
 
BUT...today only, you can do a super duper amnesty requalification, by buying more points today, to qualify your previously requalified ownership, that we disqualified during this ownership reclassification. Trust us....its a great deal. ;)
And don't worry, even though we screwed you over and canceled the requalification from last time, we pinky swear we won't do it again*

*until we need more money
 
Keep in mind most of the information is from sales staff. Notoriously not the best source and with a vested interest in selling more points. If I bought points every time they promised Hyatt was just about to be incorporated into the system, I’d be double executive, presidential, chairman, reserve, pinnacle
 
Here is an updated chart. This is from a pretty verified source. There are a few tweets and changes from the previous version and @Eric B will be happy that I incorporated the color coding :)

A few couple differences I see from what was provided earlier;
  • Late banking. I think this allows owners to bank a percentage of Club Points after the regular banking deadline.
  • Reserve and Pinnacle get a discount on Hotels via Abound Club Points (AFIK this is what we call Hello Hotels)
 

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