New levels ocean pt tour

[ljmiii]

Here's what I see at https://owners.marriottvacationclub.com/timeshare/mvco/benefits (apologies for the crappy formatting):

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All I'm seeing is the Next Level banner and the old five tiers of ownership topping off at Chairman's Club. How did you see more?

EDITED: Nevermind...I see that others aren't seeing the new levels either.

 

[dioxide45]

All I'm seeing is the Next Level banner and the old five tiers of ownership topping off at Chairman's Club. How did you see more?

EDITED: Nevermind...I see that others aren't seeing the new levels either.

Yeah, they have the information but can't share the information unless you see the concierge and go to an owner update. I suspect they will release it at some point online, but who knows when that will be.

 

[dioxide45]

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I didn't use AI, here is what I created based on the images posted by @Dean.

 

[Eric B]

I kind of doubt that the sales department has all of the nitty gritty details on how things will work. They had some training that could be subject to multiple interpretations and might not reflect things that go against their interest (more sales) like whether requalified/enrolled ownerships will count. I doubt the legal department gave any sort of clearance to the training either way.

 

[dioxide45]

I kind of doubt that the sales department has all of the nitty gritty details on how things will work. They had some training that could be subject to multiple interpretations and might not reflect things that go against their interest (more sales) like whether requalified/enrolled ownerships will count. I doubt the legal department gave any sort of clearance to the training either way.

I suspect all sales has is the info provided by Dean in post #50. While we don't know either way, I would certainly expect that requalified ownerships would qualify for the two highest tiers. I don't see why they wouldn't do that. I guess we won't really know unless MVC comes out with something more or they start bumping people to these tiers.

 

[Eric B]

I like your version, @dioxide45. The only possible suggestion would be to add parentheticals for the start dates based on the color coding for Summer 2026, Fall 2026, and Q1 2027.

 

[dioxide45]

I like your version, @dioxide45. The only possible suggestion would be to add parentheticals for the start dates based on the color coding for Summer 2026, Fall 2026, and Q1 2027.

I did have that initially, but to be expedient I dropped that just for the fact that it is only temporary till everything is implemented. I might get around to adding that in.

 

[Eric B]

I suspect all sales has is the info provided by Dean in post #50. While we don't know either way, I would certainly expect that requalified ownerships would qualify for the two highest tiers. I don't see why they wouldn't do that. I guess we won't really know unless MVC comes out with something more or they start bumping people to these tiers.

I agree, they should count as that had always been part of the sales inducement. I do wonder how they’ll treat resale RCC owners, though. They get free enrollment in Abound and those points count towards status now. They might not want to annoy folks paying that much for fees even if they go to the HOAs. Of course, it’s possible they could add St Regis access to Lion & Crown directly.

 

[dioxide45]

I agree, they should count as that had always been part of the sales inducement. I do wonder how they’ll treat resale RCC owners, though. They get free enrollment in Abound and those points count towards status now. They might not want to annoy folks paying that much for fees even if they go to the HOAs. Of course, it’s possible they could add St Regis access to Lion & Crown directly.

I don't know how they would handle them but I don't know what the maintenance fees have to do with it, those go to the resort to cover operations. It seems MVC wants to protect the higher tiers to people that have paid high sales prices to them. I don't see why they would be inclinded to give resale RCC owners those points toward the highest tiers.

 

[Eric B]

I don't know how they would handle them but I don't know what the maintenance fees have to do with it, those go to the resort to cover operations. It seems MVC wants to protect the higher tiers to people that have paid high sales prices to them. I don't see why they would be inclinded to give resale RCC owners those points toward the highest tiers.

I know; I acknowledged that the fees go to the HOA. For the suites units, MVW pays for half of them and bears the burden of the bad debt equally with other owners. My take is that they have historically given benefits to owners there despite the source. They might change it but haven’t even mentioned the new tiers on the RCC side.

 

[WBP]

So, for the lowly “weeks owner,” who never drank the Kool-Aid, or never turned their wallet over to Marriott Vacation Club/Marriott Vacations Worldwide, will be displaced (in more ways than one), by the MVW customer who decides to turn their bank account over to MVW. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Good Luck to those who aspire to achieve (no pun intended) Reserve or Pinnacle levels (notice, I don’t use the word, “status”). These are precisely the clients that MVW, and the former Diamond Resorts timeshare thugs, now at MVW, are after.

Selling a $150,000.00+ Pink Elephant to a naive consumer requires sales skill, and deception. I wonder how many salespeople MVW has with that level of sales skill.

 

[CULox99]

I connected with contacts at MVC and they advised me that to reach the Pinnacle and Reserve Levels in my instance, I would only have 5,000 points credited toward qualifying for these levels and I would remain at Chairman level. I own 2BR Marriott Grand Residence, Grande Ocean, Grande Vista and 5,000 points purchased directly from MVC to enroll my 3 re-sale properties. I am not clear if legacy weeks purchased directly from MVC would qualify (My assumption is yes, but I never purchased legacy floating weeks direct). Based on this feedback, I can't imagine there will be very many owners in the Pinnacle or Reserve levels and they are so far unattainable I don't see many buying up to them direct through MVC. Obviously this could all be floated out to see how the presentations and owners react and then make adjustments or one off deals in presentations as I was told these new levels and benefits will not likely take effect until 2027.

 

[Hindsite]

I connected with contacts at MVC and they advised me that to reach the Pinnacle and Reserve Levels in my instance, I would only have 5,000 points credited toward qualifying for these levels and I would remain at Chairman level. I own 2BR Marriott Grand Residence, Grande Ocean, Grande Vista and 5,000 points purchased directly from MVC to enroll my 3 re-sale properties. I

We all went round and round this type of issue in the run-up to Abound being launched and I don't recall people seeing the link to Vistana and hence the drawing in of all mandatory resale to Abound being made. Back then people spoke to their contacts who gave a view, but still it turned out differently, as far as I read. I would take everything said, even by reliable contacts, under advisement. Legal clearly don't provide the full briefing content to Sales until its released. It could be there is a past or future cut-off date, that's been done before. It iould be a set of new barriers to entry for the new levels that exclude all resale or non-requalified resale or something else. It could be some cataclysmic booting out of unrequalified resale from Abound eligibility all together.

As we don't know exactly what they are trying to achieve from the new levels and what issues they are trying to resolve in the process, then its really easy to draw assumptions that don't pan out.