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I have read all 8 pages of the thread started by GreenTree.

I commend them on their tenacity and resolve to see a wrong, and then to take action to rectify the wrong, rather than rolling over and accepting someone wrongfully taking advantage (by whatever means). I also agree with Green Tree’s approach of not using the timeshare on principle, but also because I believe it aids in the validity and credibility of her defense. In my opinion, this should be viewed as a consumer success story as opposed to questioning Green Tree’s motivations or manner in which they accomplished the desired outcome. After all, Green Tree accomplished something that less capable naysayers claim can’t be done.

Some commenters have said things like “they are choosing to die on this hill,” or “they should have read their contract,” but in my opinion, these comments are not addressing the driving motivation of someone who not only believes (but knows) they are on the side of right and they know they will eventually prevail. It all comes down to knowing how to make it happen.
I am no expert, but facts are facts, and when they are on your side, you just need to be adept at jumping through the hoops and obstacles that are put before you.

I could give example after example of people who, if they had laid down and just taken what others dish out, they would have needed to work to age 70 instead of retiring at 50. I could also give example after example of settlements that were reached by playing the reputation card. Basically, this is typically where the facts are so strong that a defendant could not pass the red-face test of public opinion.

Like others, I also wish that Green Tree would have stayed in this thread and not been afraid to comment further. I saw how lawyeronthebeach commented that they believe Hilton would have included a confidentiality clause in whatever agreement was reached, but I suspect, as was my experience with Marriott, that the timeshare just rescinded the timeshare after the rescission date, likely without any written agreement at all. After all, what would a honorable company want to hide from the consuming public? (That was sarcasm). If, as suspected, Green Tree’s rescission did not have a confidentiality agreement, then there is nothing prohibiting Green Tree from commenting as much as they want on social media as long as only stating facts as opposed to slandering. I also believe that Green Tree likely had other evidence for a rescission that may have permitted a rescission after the rescission date, as was my case.

Kudo’s to Green Tree! I appreciate your stick-to-it-iveness.
 
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So first off, this completely sucks, and sorry this has happened to you.

Who even wants to go to Hawaii and only stay 4 nights? This is crazy.

I'm sure this gives little solace, but there are two bright sides:
at least you have the partial ocean view and not resort view.
Okay, upon reflection, I doubt this part is true:
Starting next year, Thu - Sat are going to be the more expensive point nights, as opposed to Fri - Sunday. This should boost your total annual points to 7,440. (Honestly, this is so crazy, because whoever owns the Fri - Sun will loose 1488 points!
-- I doubt this is true, because your deed lists "partial week" and a point value, based on what you said earlier,... I assume it is defined as the 4 lesser value weeks. it would also be unfair to people who have a partial week that consists of the three higher valued nights. --

The details of how the points work.. The total points for a week are 14,880. This is divided into 10 to get the nightly rate... Yes 10 (not 7!). Or maybe I should call it deciweekly rate :) Then 4 nights of the week are charged that rate (1488) and 3 nights are charged double that rate (2,976). It's always been that M - Thu are the cheaper rate, and Fri, Sat, Sun are the 2x rate. However, starting in 2025, it will be Thu - Sat that are the 2x rate, and Sun - Wed that are 1x rate.

So this means that starting next year, you should have 7440 points, not 5,952. However, my guess is that next year your deed becomes Sun - Wed!!! You could probably log in right now and see what you have for 2025 to confirm. (Sounds like your reservation is prebooked, as a fixed week 2).

In terms of buying from Hilton, last I heard was the 1 bed ocean view platinum Grand Islander was selling at like 125k, and it's 20,000 points. You could probably find a resale for 20-30k. you could sell what you have on resale (and get next to nothing for it), but then try to pick up a resale ocean view. overall you'll have paid 50k-60k, but maybe it would ease the loss a little. it's still a 50% discount to sales price, and you'd at least own something that has more value than 4 night partial ocean view. though I wouldn't blame you if you just wanted to be done with them.

Or, like others have suggested, just use your points to book full weeks at cheaper resorts. Scotland, Italy, Miami are all pretty cheap, and you could probably get almost a full week at Lagoon or Kalia tower or Hokulani in Hawaii,... you'll have to investigate the points. Anyway, good luck!
 
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I checked some re-sales. Mine is probably worth 10% of what I paid or even less. Hilton advertises $750 for 4 nights at Grand Islander with 1 hour presentation. Why would someone pay anything plus $1400+ annual maintenance fee to buy the timeshare? They tricked me to buy something of no value with such large sum of money.
that $750 is kinda a 1-time deal where they suck people in... that is not a typical nightly rate. also a lot of people don't know about it. actual retail hotel rates are much higher.

I assume your'e including your 300 dues in with the 1400? still crazy, I have a full week and my MF are I think 1700. I don't know why your MF are so high, even if they are 1100. So 4/7 x 1700 --> closer to 1000...
 
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