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[Sthack]

Perhaps there is an error in the HHV HOA document for the Garden View Rooms.

It states the following (see below) but it looks like the Floor Area information should be switch between E & I for Garden View to match Ocean View.

Floor Plan Location: E is 3-4 floor / Floor Area: 596 SF (Garden View)
Floor Plan Location: I is 3-8 floor / Floor Area: 710 SF (Garden View)

Floor Plan Location: E is 5-23 floor / Floor Area: 710 SF (Ocean View)
Floor Plan Location: I is 9-23 floor / Floor Area: 596 SF (Ocean View)

Alwysonvac,
Do you have this information for HHV - Kalia Tower (1 Bedroom)?

 

[alwysonvac]

Alwysonvac,
Do you have this information for HHV - Kalia Tower (1 Bedroom)?

Sorry I don't have this information for HHV - Kalia Tower. We are only given access to HOA documents for the HGVC resorts that we own. I don't own points at HHV - Kalia Tower.

 

[alwysonvac]

What I know about Kalia Tower...

The Kalia Tower sits the furthest away from the ocean and is parallel to the ocean. The 24-story Kalia Tower is a mixed use tower of hotel rooms and timeshare villas. Only six floors of the Kalia tower has timeshare units (floors 12- 18). NOTE: There is no 13th floor. The rooms facing the ocean are considered ocean views and the rooms on the backside are considered mountain/city view.

The Kalia Tower only has 72 timeshare villas - 6 studios (all ocean view) and 66 one bedrooms (42 oceanview & 24 mountain view)
Here's a link to the Kalia Tower one bedroom - http://www.hiltongrandvacations.com/kalia-timeshare-villas.php
View from Kalia Tower ocean view room - http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/14/92/7d/view-of-balcony-note.jpg (Waikikian Tower on the right and Lagoon Tower & Rainbow Tower in front)


How does it compare to the Lagoon Tower...

The amenities in Lagoon Tower and Kalia Tower are basically the same. NOTE: They both have the combined tub/shower (no separate shower or whirlpool tub). There are no washer and dryer in the units however there is a laundry room on every floor with a washer and dryer.

From what I read here on the TUG forum, the studios are a little different. All studios in Kalia Tower have balconies. Both Lagoon Tower and Kalia Tower studios have a convenient kitchenette area that includes a microwave, coffee maker, dishes and mini-fridge but only Lagoon Tower studios have a sink in the kitchenette area (see photos on post #35)

Summary:
Lagoon Tower - Average (but very nice) Room Decor (converted apartment bldg; large lanai; long elevator wait times during peak periods; closest to the ocean)
Kalia Tower - Upscale Room Decor (converted hotel rooms; hardwood floors, fancier furnishings; great ocean views; furthest from the ocean)

 

[alwysonvac]

 

[HatTrick]

Kalia also has:

- More and faster elevators than Lagoon.
- An air-conditioned lobby (vs. Lagoon's open-air lobby) with a Starbucks.
- A small pool, hot tub, and fitness center on the 4th floor.

And because each floor has a hotel-style ice maker, the units' freezers have neither an ice maker nor ice trays.

 

[Sandy VDH]

Do you have a studio picture of the Kalia? Does anyone have any GW layouts? Does anyone have any photos of a penthouse unit or the views from a penthouse unit?

TIA

 

[alwysonvac]

Do you have a studio picture of the Kalia? Does anyone have any GW layouts? Does anyone have any photos of a penthouse unit or the views from a penthouse unit?

TIA

Here's a link to some Kalia Tower photos but I've never stayed in a Kalia Tower studio so I'm not sure if any of these is a HGVC Kalia studio unit - see http://www.myresortnetwork.com/pict...nd-Vacations-Club-at-Kalia-Tower/Oahu/Hawaii/

GW room layouts, views, photos and virtual tours can be found at the following Hilton websites
- http://www.grandwaikikian.com/001_about_GW_E_V.php
- http://hgvcdirect.com/grandwaikikian/index.html
- http://www.hiltongrandvacations.com/vacation-resort-collection.php
- http://www1.hilton.com/en_US/hi/hot...n-Grand-Vacations-Club-Hawaii/photoGallery.do
- http://www1.hilton.com/en_US/hi/hot...Grand-Vacations-Club-Hawaii/videoTour.do?id=1

Additional GW photos can be found on Tripadvisor - http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Re...ikikian_By_Hgv_Club-Honolulu_Oahu_Hawaii.html

Lagoon Tower penthouse photos and views can be found on the TUG Resort Database (see post #20 in this thread for link)

 

[Sandy VDH]

Alwysonvac

Thanks for the reminder about the photo section in the reviews, I did not look there.

Someone on another thread mentioned that there were 6 3 BR penthouses.
See http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96463

I went back to the layout at post #5 in this thread and that doesn't make sense.

I would say that B F G H and J are pure 3 BRs. A D and K are 3 BR Lockoffs. So that could mean that they are available as either 2 or 3 BRs. That would make C E & I the pure 2 BR units. Is that right. If that is the case then there are between 5 - 8 3 BRs and between 3 and 6 2 BRs Penthouses depending on how the lockoffs are booked.

Would that be correct?

 

[alwysonvac]

Alwysonvac

Thanks for the reminder about the photo section in the reviews, I did not look there.

Someone on another thread mentioned that there were 6 3 BR penthouses.
See http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96463

I went back to the layout at post #5 in this thread and that doesn't make sense.

I would say that B F G H and J are pure 3 BRs. A D and K are 3 BR Lockoffs. So that could mean that they are available as either 2 or 3 BRs. That would make C E & I the pure 2 BR units. Is that right. If that is the case then there are between 5 - 8 3 BRs and between 3 and 6 2 BRs Penthouses depending on how the lockoffs are booked.

Would that be correct?

Unlike the HHV two bedroom units which indicated lockoff for D & K for floors 3 to 23, I couldn't find anything in the HHV HOA documentation regarding lockoffs on the 24th floor (penthouse floor). Post #43 reflects what I see in the HGVC HOA documents and my assumption.


For the longest time, the TUG boards indicated that there were six 3 bdrm HHV penthouse units. I even have it jotted down in my HHV notes. I'm assuming TUG members got this information directly from HGVC. If this is the case then perhaps at least one of the two bedroom penthouse + studio combos is always booked as a three bedroom penthouse . This would explain the discrepancy with the HHV HOA documentation which indicates 5 true 3 bdrm penthouse units.

When I called the Lagoon Tower front desk years ago (2004/2005) about a three bedroom penthouse reservation (this was before we had the ability to view room description during the online reservation process), I was told at that time that I could be placed in either a three bedroom or two bedroom plus studio.

 

[Sandy VDH]

Unlike the HHV two bedroom units which indicated lockoff for D & K for floors 3 to 23, I couldn't find anything in the HHV HOA documentation regarding lockoffs on the 24th floor (penthouse floor). Post #43 reflects what I see in the HGVC HOA documents and my assumption.

I would have to agree with your assumptions, but I would have thought that the description would say whether it was a lockoff or not, since it says it for all of the other lockoff units.

What I am finding really strange is the description for the 3 BR penthouse says 2 bathrooms, none of the floor plans would support that, so that might be an error.

Edited: It bother me so much I called HHV and then HGVC and it is an error. There are no 3 BRs with 2 Baths even existing. But I did discover the trick for figuring out if you have a pure 3 BR or if you have a 2 BR + Studio. The pure 3 BR Penthouses have 3 Baths, the pure 2 BR penthouses have 2.5 Baths. So if you end up with a lockoff it would have 3.5 Baths NOT 3 Baths.

However the descriptions on HGVClub Classic are currently incorrect.

 

[HatTrick]

Edited: It bother me so much I called HHV and then HGVC and it is an error. There are no 3 BRs with 2 Baths even existing. But I did discover the trick for figuring out if you have a pure 3 BR or if you have a 2 BR + Studio. The pure 3 BR Penthouses have 3 Baths, the pure 2 BR penthouses have 2.5 Baths. So if you end up with a lockoff it would have 3.5 Baths NOT 3 Baths.

However the descriptions on HGVClub Classic are currently incorrect.

Sounds like the 2BR penthouse description online is incorrect too, then. It says "2 bedroom/2 bathroom".

 

[alwysonvac]

But I did discover the trick for figuring out if you have a pure 3 BR or if you have a 2 BR + Studio.

I usually look for the word "kitchenette" in the popup window to determine if it's a lockoff (see post #42). I'm assuming the HHV three bedroom lockoff would have a similar description.

 

[alwysonvac]

UPDATE - Lagoon Tower Three Bedroom Penthouse Exception

Based on another thread titled "From 3 BR HHV - Lagoon Tower" posted 4/25/09 http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96463

Q. Has anyone stayed in a pure 3 BR vs the 3 BR lockoff unit. Just wondering as the description on HGVC says 3 BR 2 Bath, yes the floorplans for a 3 BR show 3 Baths. So just a little confused.
A. I stayed in five different 3-bd units and none of them were lock-offs. There is one three bedroom units with 2 1/2 bath but that's the one with the best view.

Q. Which of the 3 BRs would be your top pick?
A. It would have to be 2466. Ocean front and a view of Diamond head. Also, you can also have a small party in the living room. The only down side is the 2 1/2 baths.

Q. I wonder why it only has 2 1/2 baths and not 3 1/2. Weird. As the upstairs looks on the floor plan to be the same size as any of the other 3 BRs. Of course the living room is much larger than the others.
A. The strange part is that underneath the spiral staircase, next to the 1/2 bath, there's a "room" bigger than the 1/2 bath. It is not a closet but just a small area with a door. I didn't think to verify that room and the 1/2 bath is separated by a common wall but everyone commented why that area wasn't just converted to a full bath. Of course, I wouldn't mind staying there again! I can live with it

Q. So do two of bedrooms upstairs share 1 common bathroom?
A. Yes, there are two separate sink areas but an over-sized common bath with two doors. Of course, the master bedroom has its own huge full bath.

 

[alwysonvac]

UPDATE - Kalia Tower Common Door

Based on another thread titled "Kalia tower room suggestions" posted 5/2/09 http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96910

Q. I will be going staying in a one bedroom ocean view unit at the Kalia tower in a couple of weeks and was wondering if anyone had any suggetions on which floor and room to try to request.
A. There is very little difference in the view as you get higher. They are all the same size and layout as well. The ones closest to the Hale Koa side might be a bit quieter from street noise, but try to stay away from the Kxx51 rooms, they have a common door with the studio on that floor.

 

[alwysonvac]

UPDATE - Number of rooms by unit size and type

Kalia Tower - total rooms 72 [6 floors located on floors 12 through 18; there is no 13th floor]
studio [view: Ocean View] - total units 6
one bedroom [view: Mountain/City View] - total units 24
one bedroom plus [view: Ocean View] - total units 42

Lagoon Tower - total rooms 236 [24 floors]
one bedroom [view: Standard/Garden View] - total non-lockoff units 14
one bedroom plus [view: Ocean View] - total non-lockoff units 49
two bedroom [view: Standard/Garden View] - total lockoff (studio + one bedroom) units 8 / total non-lockoff units 33
two bedroom plus [view: Ocean View] - total lockoff (studio + one bedroom) units 34 / total non-lockoff units 51
two bedroom premier [view: Ocean Front] - total non-lockoff units 42
two bedroom premier [Two story Penthouse Ocean View unit] - total units 6 (SEE POST #42 for reservation tips)
three bedroom premier [Two story Penthouse Ocean View unit] - total units 3
three bedroom premier [Two story Penthouse Ocean Front unit] - total units 2
studio [view: Ocean View from the Penthouse Floor] - total units 3
NOTE: HGVC press releases states that there are 236 rooms but I only come up with 244

Grand Waikikian Tower - total rooms 331 [38 floors] (sorry I don't have the unit breakdown for these)
one bedroom
one bedroom plus
one bedroom premier
two bedroom
two bedroom plus
two bedroom premier
two bedroom penthouse
three bedroom penthouse
NOTE: I was told that the prestige units were removed from the buildings plans after the release of our Club Member Guide.

 

[ricoba]

I am curious about the "prestige" rooms you mentioned about GW. What were the prestige rooms?

 

[alwysonvac]

I am curious about the "prestige" rooms you mentioned about GW. What were the prestige rooms?

Prestige and Prestige Plus were room categories listed under the Grand Waikikian Clubpoint charts on pages 89 & 145 of the 2009 Club Member Guide. I asked for a description and was told that these room categories were removed.

 

[Pronkster]

Do you know how many of the 1 bdr. ocean view rooms in the Kalia tower have two double beds and the best location to request when staying in one of these rooms.

 

[alwysonvac]

Do you know how many of the 1 bdr. ocean view rooms in the Kalia tower have two double beds and the best location to request when staying in one of these rooms.

Good question but sorry, I don't know the answer. Perhaps someone else will be able to answer your question.

 

[alwysonvac]

UPDATE: TUG Member Photos

Lagoon Tower
One Bedroom Plus - http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88884
Two Bedroom Penthouse - http://tugbbs.com/forums/showpost.php?p=750506&postcount=11 (NOTE: In Flickr select "Sets" to see album of a two bedroom oceanfront villa)

Grand Waikikian
One Bedroom Plus - http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89371
Two Bedroom (Plus?) - http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91015
Two Bedroom Plus & Penthouse - http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101374

 

[ricoba]

I think I mentioned this earlier on another thread, but I will repeat it here since it is a HHV specific thread.

When I was at the GW from June 30 - July 10, I had the opportunity to speak to the General Manager of all three timeshare towers, Ms. Dione Lewis.

She agreed that the Lagoon Tower is the ideal/best location and beginning in September 2010, the Lagoon Tower rooms are undergoing an extensive renovation. All the more reason to request the Lagoon over the GW in my opinion.

 

[HatTrick]

Lagoon Tower - total rooms 236 [24 floors]
one bedroom [view: Standard/Garden View] - total non-lockoff units 14
one bedroom plus [view: Ocean View] - total non-lockoff units 49
two bedroom [view: Standard/Garden View] - total lockoff (studio + one bedroom) units 8 / total non-lockoff units 33
two bedroom plus [view: Ocean View] - total lockoff (studio + one bedroom) units 34 / total non-lockoff units 51
two bedroom premier [view: Ocean Front] - total non-lockoff units 42
two bedroom premier [Two story Penthouse Ocean View unit] - total units 6 (SEE POST #42 for reservation tips)
three bedroom premier [Two story Penthouse Ocean View unit] - total units 3
three bedroom premier [Two story Penthouse Ocean Front unit] - total units 2
studio [view: Ocean View from the Penthouse Floor] - total units 3

Lagoon Tower - total rooms 236 [24 floors]
three bedroom plus [Two story Penthouse Ocean View unit] - total units 3
three bedroom plus [Two story Penthouse Ocean Front unit] - total units 2

Right?

 

[alwysonvac]

Lagoon Tower - total rooms 236 [24 floors]
three bedroom plus [Two story Penthouse Ocean View unit] - total units 3
three bedroom plus [Two story Penthouse Ocean Front unit] - total units 2

Right?

Oooops, yes you're right. Thanks for keeping me honest

 

[HatTrick]

Here are some popup descriptions of the two bedroom HHV Lagoon villas. I've highlighted key words in blue font that provide more details regarding the type of room. Note: If no view is stated then it is a standard/garden view room except for the penthouse villas.

2 BEDROOM PREMIER
Spacious 2 bedroom/2 bathroom penthouse suite features king bed in master bedroom and two twins or two double beds in second bedroom, each with cable TV. Generous living area includes separate dining area, large TV with cable and DVD player and queen-size sleeper sofa. Suite also features full kitchen with microwave oven and rice steamer as well as complimentary high-speed Internet access and in-room safe. Maximum occupancy: 6

2 BEDROOM PREMIER
Spacious 2 bedroom/2 bathroom oceanfront suite features king bed in master bedroom and two twins beds in second bedroom, each with cable TV. Generous living area includes separate dining area, large TV with cable and DVD player and queen-size sleeper sofa. Suite also features full kitchen with microwave oven and rice steamer as well as complimentary high-speed Internet access and in-room safe. Maximum occupancy: 6

2 BEDROOM PLUS
Spacious 2 bedroom/2 bathroom ocean-view suite features large master bedroom with king bed. Second bedroom includes two double beds or king bed, as well as a convenient kitchenette, and can be easily locked off from the main living area to create a relaxing element of privacy. Generous living area includes cable TV with DVD player and queen-size sleeper sofa. Suite also features full kitchen with microwave oven and rice steamer as well as complimentary high-speed Internet access and in-room safe. Maximum occupancy: 6

2 BEDROOM GARDEN VIEW
Spacious 2 bedroom/2 bathroom suite features king bed in master bedroom and two twins or two double beds in second bedroom, each with cable TV. Generous living area includes separate dining area, large TV with cable and DVD player and queen-size sleeper sofa. Suite also features full kitchen with microwave oven and rice steamer as well as complimentary high-speed Internet access and in-room safe. Maximum occupancy: 6

2 BEDROOM
Spacious 2 bedroom/2 bathroom suite features king bed in master bedroom. Second bedroom is furnished with two twins, two double beds or king bed along with a convenient kitchenette. This bedroom can be easily locked off from the main living area to create a relaxing element of privacy. Generous living area includes cable TV with DVD player and queen-size sleeper sofa. Suite also features full kitchen with microwave oven and rice steamer as well as complimentary high-speed Internet access and in-room safe. Maximum occupancy: 6

Updated

2 BEDROOM PREMIER
Spacious 2 bedroom/2 bathroom ocean view suite with balcony features master bedroom with 1 king bed and bathroom with standard shower/tub combination. Second bedroom is furnished with 2 twin beds and standard shower/tub combination. Generous living room includes separate dining area and full-size sleeper sofa. Suite also features full kitchen with rice steamer, as well as high-speed wired & wireless Internet access and in-room safe. Maximum occupancy: 6

2 BEDROOM PREMIER
Spacious 2 bedroom/2 bathroom oceanfront suite with balcony features master bedroom with 1 king bed and bathroom with standard shower/tub combination. Second bedroom is furnished with 2 twin beds and standard shower/tub combination. Generous living room includes separate dining area and full-size sleeper sofa. Suite also features full kitchen with rice steamer, as well as high-speed wired & wireless Internet access and in-room safe. Maximum occupancy: 6

2 BEDROOM PLUS
Spacious 2 bedroom/2 bathroom ocean view suite with balcony features master bedroom with king bed and bathroom with standard shower/tub combination. Second bedroom is furnished with 1 king bed or 2 double beds and standard shower/tub combination, convenient kitchenette, and can be easily locked off from the main living area to create a relaxing element of privacy. Generous living room includes separate dining area, TV with cable TV and DVD player, and full-size sleeper sofa. Suite also features full kitchen with rice steamer, as well as high-speed wired & wireless Internet access and in-room safe. Maximum occupancy: 6

2 BEDROOM PLUS
Spacious 2 bedroom/2 bathroom ocean view suite with balcony features master bedroom with king bed and bathroom with standard shower/tub combination. Second bedroom is furnished with 2 twin beds or 2 double beds and standard shower/tub combination, convenient kitchenette, and can be easily locked off from the main living area to create a relaxing element of privacy. Generous living room includes separate dining area, TV with cable TV and DVD player, and full-size sleeper sofa. Suite also features full kitchen with rice steamer, as well as high-speed wired & wireless Internet access and in-room safe. Maximum occupancy: 6

2 BEDROOM
Spacious 2 bedroom/2 bathroom garden view suite with balcony features master bedroom with king bed and bathroom with standard shower/tub combination. Second bedroom is furnished with 1 king bed, 2 twin beds or 2 double beds and standard shower/tub combination, convenient kitchenette, and can be easily locked off from the main living area to create a relaxing element of privacy. Generous living room includes separate dining area, TV with cable TV and DVD player, and full-size sleeper sofa. Suite also features full kitchen with rice steamer, as well as high-speed wired & wireless Internet access and in-room safe. Maximum occupancy: 6

2 BEDROOM
Spacious 2 bedroom/2 bathroom garden view suite with balcony features master bedroom with 1 king bed and bathroom with standard shower/tub combination. Second bedroom is furnished with 2 twin beds or 2 double beds and standard shower/tub combination. Generous living room includes separate dining area, TV with cable and DVD player and full-size sleeper sofa. Suite also features full kitchen with rice steamer, as well as high-speed wired & wireless Internet access and in-room safe. Maximum occupancy: 6

Note: There doesn't seem to be a description for the 2B-Plus that's not a lock-off.

 

[linsj]

There are only two kinds of studios, which would be the lock-off sides of two-bedroom lock-offs: 1 king bed or 2 double beds. There are no studios with twin beds.