MLB Playoffs 2015

[DeniseM]

IMNSHO - When the runner slides into the 2nd baseman, and the runner doesn't even come close to touching the base, it should be an automatic out, and an illegal slide.

I expect to see a rules change coming - just like the change they made at home plate.

 

[joewillie12]

If Utley would have tackled a quarterback like that he would have got 15 yards for roughing. That was vicious dirty slide [HIT] and its about time MLB finally took notice.

 

[am1]

I suspect that the suspension will be overturned upon appeal. Utley will apparently play during the appeal. So any suspension won't be immediate. Had the short stop not been injured, there wouldn't be a suspension. Players practice on how to break up a double play. For the Mets it was unfortunate, for the Dodgers he did his job. I don't think there is ever intent to injure in these plays.

How many other plays are similar where the player does not get injured and there is no disciplinary action? The end result was unfortunate, but this seems to just be part of the game. The risk is there for both players when breaking up a double play.

Intent follows the bullet. But regardless of injury I believe the suspension is warranted. The runner should be out as well as the hitter. It is possible it was allowed in the past but the rule makes it clear that it was an illegal "slide/tackle).

Shame on the Dodgers for appealing it.

 

[ace2000]

Taking out the guy turning the double play has been around forever - all teams try to do it. It happens and if Tejada wouldn't have got injured, nobody would be talking about it. Utley's slide was excessive though, so he deserves the punishment. It was a bad break for the Mets, but to a certain extent, the fielder has to know it's coming. Should we also ban pitchers throwing faster than 90MPH?

 

[DeniseM]

Players have "always" taken out the Catcher, too - until Buster Posey's ankle was broken and he lost a whole season - then they changed the rule.

Saying it's OK, because "they have always done it that way" is completely illogical.

They used to let players stay in games with concussions, too - not doing that any more, either!*

We are going to see a rules change - in fact the commissioner's office even said they would be doing some testing of new rules in spring training.

*BTW - Did anyone see Pete Rose on TV this week? "Back in my day, we stayed in the game with a compound fracture, and a concussion, they are such sissies these days!"

Watching Pete Rose talk about the playoffs is like watching a train wreck - you don't want to look, but you can't turn away. Honestly, his dark brown dyed hair, and hunching over in the chair, talking out of the corner of his mouth is just sad. He needs a handler.

 

[ace2000]

Saying it's OK, because "they have always done it that way" is completely illogical.

Nobody said it was ok. All I'm saying is that Utley has received a fair punishment - he will appeal - and the game will go on. There is a lot of talk out there that there might be a rule change, but that doesn't help the Mets right now.

 

[DeniseM]

That is not all you said - these 4 statements were attempts to justify what happened:

Taking out the guy turning the double play has been around forever - all teams try to do it.

It happens and if Tejada wouldn't have got injured, nobody would be talking about it.

the fielder has to know it's coming.

Should we also ban pitchers throwing faster than 90MPH?

 

[ace2000]

That is not all you said - these 4 statements were attempts to justifiy what happened:

That's why it pays to read an entire post and keep it in context. I also clearly stated that Utley's slide was excessive though, so he deserves the punishment.

You don't think the Mets have some individuals that have ever roughly taken out an opposing player on a double play? Nonsense. It's been a part of baseball for years.

It is definitely a bad break for the Mets.

 

[DeniseM]

That's why it pays to read an entire post and keep it in context.

You don't think the Mets have some individuals that have ever roughly taken out an opposing player on a double play? Nonsense. It's been a part of baseball for years.

It is definitely a bad break for the Mets.

Again - it's completely illogical to try to justify a bad thing, because bad things happened in the past.

 

[dioxide45]

Again - it's completely illogical to try to justify a bad thing, because bad things happened in the past.

I am not saying that there shouldn't be a rule change. It makes sense to prevent injury for both players. But with this current situation, it is really no different than all the other take out plays in the past, other than the fact that someone was injured. I see this suspension being overturned or being served in the 2016 season.

 

[ace2000]

Again - it's completely illogical to try to justify a bad thing, because bad things happened in the past.

Yes, we can both agree here on this very broad and general statement that has nothing to do with our current topic.

 

[DeniseM]

IMNSHO - it was a dirty slide. The fact that there have been dirty slides in the past does not justify another one. I can't say it any clearer than that. I'm done here. YMMV

 

[DavidnRobin]

Never forget...

Like this play - Utley never made attempt to go in the direction of 2nd base - he went directly at the 2nd baseman - even sliding after the 2nd base bag - as clearly seen on the video replay (F the Dodgers)

Luckily Posey's career was not over after this 'part-of-the-game' slide. Hopefully, Tejada's career will not be. I can only hope Utley's career goes the way of Cousins' career.

 

[joewillie12]

Taking out the guy turning the double play has been around forever - all teams try to do it. It happens and if Tejada wouldn't have got injured, nobody would be talking about it. Utley's slide was excessive though, so he deserves the punishment. It was a bad break for the Mets, but to a certain extent, the fielder has to know it's coming. Should we also ban pitchers throwing faster than 90MPH?

But it did happen. Utley could have broke his neck with that so called slide also. Tejada has been taken out with plenty slides before just like all middle infielders but I don't believe they think of getting pelted blind sided behind the bag at full speed. That slide has to be eliminated from baseball. Even hockey has eliminated the hit from behind.
If a batter has to face a 90mph fastball with his eyes close then a vote for a ban.

 

[dioxide45]

A rule change that will prevent this is to allow the base runner to run through second base only if forced to second on a hit. Then you will just have standing collisions.

 

[billymach4]

Tonight the Mets are giving the Dodgers what they deserve!

 

[billymach4]

I am stuck working... While my family and friends are at the game! Why... Why..

 

[billymach4]

Mets 13 Dodgers 4 bottom of the 7th


Crushing the Dodgers

 

[ace2000]

But it did happen. Utley could have broke his neck with that so called slide also. Tejada has been taken out with plenty slides before just like all middle infielders but I don't believe they think of getting pelted blind sided behind the bag at full speed. That slide has to be eliminated from baseball. Even hockey has eliminated the hit from behind.
If a batter has to face a 90mph fastball with his eyes close then a vote for a ban.

Yes it happened. The umpires looked at it on replay and determined that what Utley did was within the current rules. Then after the game and when everyone knew the extent of Tejada's injury, Torre declared that Utley did violate the rules, but said it would've been an extremely difficult call for the umpires to make. There are plenty of experts in agreement with you about possibly changing the rules in the future. I've heard that discussed on TV several times over the last couple of days.

The Mets handled it properly. They didn't whine about it and complain about the current rules. They chose to use the incident for inspiration and for motivation, and they pounded the Dodgers last night for 13 runs.

Kudos to the Mets.

 

[pedro47]

Yes it happened. The umpires looked at it on replay and determined that what Utley did was within the current rules. Then after the game and when everyone knew the extent of Tejada's injury, Torre declared that Utley did violate the rules, but said it would've been an extremely difficult call for the umpires to make. There are plenty of experts in agreement with you about possibly changing the rules in the future. I've heard that discussed on TV several times over the last couple of days.

The Mets handled it properly. They didn't whine about it and complain about the current rules. They chose to use the incident for inspiration and for motivation, and they pounded the Dodgers last night for 13 runs.

Kudos to the Mets.

Last night game against the Dodgers was a positive turning point for the Mets. They now have that extra incentive to whip the Dodgers. Go Mets!!!

The Mets and Cubs in the NFS.

 

[joewillie12]

Yes it happened. The umpires looked at it on replay and determined that what Utley did was within the current rules. Then after the game and when everyone knew the extent of Tejada's injury, Torre declared that Utley did violate the rules, but said it would've been an extremely difficult call for the umpires to make. There are plenty of experts in agreement with you about possibly changing the rules in the future. I've heard that discussed on TV several times over the last couple of days.

The Mets handled it properly. They didn't whine about it and complain about the current rules. They chose to use the incident for inspiration and for motivation, and they pounded the Dodgers last night for 13 runs.

Kudos to the Mets.

I think the replay initially was to see if Tejada stepped on second and determine if the "neighborhood play" should have been called. The call for suspension came after looking at Utley crash into Tejada and the dangerous nature of it . I agree, the umps nor the replay officials had the time to dissect that aspect.
Anyway good game from the Mets. They have the better team but LA is sending out the equalizer to pitch tonight. Should be a good one.

 

[Elan]

Joey Bats!

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[am1]

Baseball Gods

If their is anytime to believe in baseball gods it is now.

 

[moonstone]

Joey Bats!

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OH YA! Yea Jays, they did it! An amazing game!

:whoopie::whoopie:

~Diane

 

[am1]

Yes what a memorable game. I really dislike when a team tries to cheat and then protests it. It ruins the sport and in this case ruined their chance of winning. I hope they enjoy the flight back to Dallas.