Marriott Rewards and SPG Program Changes Announced 4/16/18 [Threads merged.]

[Pamplemousse]

Thank you both.
Do you happen to know where the information on the current (old) levels are located?
I’m unsure at this point whether my status is due to MVC ownership or my nights/ points.
I always have trouble locating things on my-vacationclub. Their programmers mind just doesn’t match with mine.

 

[Fasttr]

Thank you both.
Do you happen to know where the information on the current (old) levels are located?
I’m unsure at this point whether my status is due to MVC ownership or my nights/ points.
I always have trouble locating things on my-vacationclub. Their programmers mind just doesn’t match with mine.

See bottom of this https://www.marriottvacationclub.com/common/cms/mvcau/pdfs/benefits-at-a-glance-chart-US.pdf

 

[glarscast]

Thank you kds4 and JIMinNC for your quick replies. I guess we will all just have to wait to see what status level we are each put into after August.

Last week I called and spoke with a Marriott Rewards representative who informed me (incorrectly) that my Gold Status earned as a Select Member with MVC would translate to a Platinum Status under the new system. Today an online chat with another Marriott Rewards representative told me that the exact status level for each MVC member level has yet to be determined.

Wait and see I guess . . .

 

[SMB1]

I guess I don't know exactly where I stand.
I'm LT (old) silver with 1234 nights and 10K points short of (old) gold. I'll have 1.6 million points by year end, so I would make (old) LT gold, or (new) LT platinum.
But I may (actually probably) have 10 years (old) platinum (especially if you count 2018). But I'm not 100% sure of # years of (old) Platinum. There is no way I could get 400K points by year end, but it would be interesting if I could be grandfathered in to (new) LT Platinum Premier based on years.

That would make sense. If this is the new criteria, which in my opinion, is more difficult to secure, I think it would make sense for you to be grandfathered.

 

[Pocky87]

Thank you kds4 and JIMinNC for your quick replies. I guess we will all just have to wait to see what status level we are each put into after August.

Last week I called and spoke with a Marriott Rewards representative who informed me (incorrectly) that my Gold Status earned as a Select Member with MVC would translate to a Platinum Status under the new system. Today an online chat with another Marriott Rewards representative told me that the exact status level for each MVC member level has yet to be determined.

Wait and see I guess . . .

That's what I received as well from MVC AP... felt sad that it's been half a month and still no news on that.

 

[quikitikit]

I think your discussion may involve a misunderstanding of Travel packages (forgive me if I am wrong). In such a package, you use a certain number of MR points and get both a 5-night or 7-night hotel certificate AND a large number of airline miles, which do not have to be used at the same time. This is the way some people accumulate a large number of airline miles.

Thanks for the clarification! OMG!!!! I have been missing out!! Will have to read that carefully to start collecting mileage!! Gosh. I wondered how people had so much mileage thinking they had to fly a lot to get those mileage amounts!

 

[K&L1996]

Just now registered for this BBS. The amount of info here is overwhelming.

We’re 22-year MVC members with 2 Ocean Pointe weeks (Silver) and 3000 points, putting us at the Presidential level. Wife and I are both retired now and travel only for leisure & vacations, usually twice a year to MVC resorts, always in the US. We use what we have in certain ways, and we’re quite happy with everything we’ve gotten from our MVC membership over the years.

But I must admit I’m not very good at keeping up with all the tricks-of-the-trade and bean-counting that so much of this BBS seems to be about.

Perfectly content to wait for these merger changes to be fully implemented and then see where we stand. But I do have a question about “Platinum for Life”. Don’t remember seeing that terminology before. We’ve been told that Platinum MR status is a benefit of our MVC Presidential status, and we don’t have to meet minimum stay thresholds to requalify every year for Platinum.

QUESTION: Is this what is meant by “Platinum for Life”?

Thanks ....

 

[dioxide45]

But I do have a question about “Platinum for Life”. Don’t remember seeing that terminology before. We’ve been told that Platinum MR status is a benefit of our MVC Presidential status, and we don’t have to meet minimum stay thresholds to requalify every year for Platinum.

QUESTION: Is this what is meant by “Platinum for Life”?

There are two different terms you will read here;

Lifetime Platinum(Platinum Premier) - This you earn through your Marriott Reward status based on the number of lifetime nights and points you have earned over your lifetime in the MR program. It is a lifetime status that Marriott won't take away once you earn it. It is earned through your affiliation in the Marriott Rewards program and has nothing to do with MVC ownership.

Platinum for Life - You will often read it in connection with Marriott Vacation Club DC Ownership Status but it is not really a true term. DC Select and Executive gets Gold Elite and Presidential and above gets you Platinum. This really isn't Platinum for Life because if you were to sell your 3,000 DC points, it would drop your DC status down to a level that is now Gold instead of Platinum. MVC can also change the benefit at any time.

 

[gkreuscher]

[Moderator Note - Related thread in the Vistana forum: SPG Marriott Unification]

[Note changes announced 4/16/18; see Post #62 and after.]

Saw on Flyertalk. The Marriott and SPG program will be combined in August, and there will be five status tiers:
Silver status at 10 nights
Gold status at 25 nights
Platinum status at 50 nights
Platinum Premier status at 75 nights
Ambassador program at 100 nights and $20,000 in spending

Platinum status given to Executive and Chairman members is downgrading to a Mid-level, which doesn't get lounge access, breakfast and suite upgrade suggested by some flyertalk insiders. I sincerely hope MVC can work out a deal with Marriott hotel to secure us a Platinum Premier status. Fingers crossed!

My understanding is the Gold Life Time for Select Members will become Platium's lower level status.

 

[VacationForever]

My understanding is the Gold Life Time for Select Members will become Platium's lower level status.

Until MVC announces how elite status is matched, everything is speculation. I am skeptical as to whether current Gold through MVC ownership will match to Platinum, and current Platinum will match to Platinum Premier. SPG 5 star elite only gets matched to Platinum and not Platinum Premier, and if I were to to draw a parallel, current Presidential/Chairman's Club may only match to the new Platinum.

 

[dioxide45]

Until MVC announces how elite status is matched, everything is speculation. I am skeptical as to whether current Gold through MVC ownership will match to Platinum, and current Platinum will match to Platinum Premier. SPG 5 star elite only gets matched to Platinum and not Platinum Premier, and if I were to to draw a parallel, current Presidential/Chairman's Club may only match to the new Platinum.

Perhaps MVC will match to the higher levels, a way to get all those new owner peeps from Vistana to buy in to DC and enroll their weeks... Of course, all based on more speculation.

 

[controller1]

Perhaps MVC will match to the higher levels, a way to get all those new owner peeps from Vistana to buy in to DC and enroll their weeks... Of course, all based on more speculation.

Yes, that will definitely impress the Vistana 5-Star Elites!

 

[Pocky87]

Until MVC announces how elite status is matched, everything is speculation. I am skeptical as to whether current Gold through MVC ownership will match to Platinum, and current Platinum will match to Platinum Premier. SPG 5 star elite only gets matched to Platinum and not Platinum Premier, and if I were to to draw a parallel, current Presidential/Chairman's Club may only match to the new Platinum.

That's because Vistana follows the SPG Elite level. Level 3 & 4 receive the SPG Gold while level 5 receives the SPG Platinum. Because of the merger, it's reasonable that they are being matched to the combined programme just like how SPG elite levels were matched as announced.

I guess most MVC DC members are more concern if the current Marriott Gold (Select and Executive) and Platinum (Presidential and Chairman) will follow the merger of being matched to the new Platinum and Platinum Premier status.

 

[VacationForever]

That's because Vistana follows the SPG Elite level. Level 3 & 4 receive the SPG Gold while level 5 receives the SPG Platinum. Because of the merger, it's reasonable that they are being matched to the combined programme just like how SPG elite levels were matched as announced.

I guess most MVC DC members are more concern if the current Marriott Gold (Select and Executive) and Platinum (Presidential and Chairman) will follow the merger of being matched to the new Platinum and Platinum Premier status.

Hence, many of us are trying to lock in whatever lifetime elite status by end of the year independent of how MVC members will be matched.

 

[Superchief]

I'm surprised that MVC still hasn't provided any information to owners regarding the impact of the new program on MVC benefits. The only information I have seen was posted on Marriott Insiders specifying that we would still receive the 'arrival points' (depending on status) for MVC stays. I still haven't seen any information regarding the status levels or whether we will continue receive night credits for our MVC stays. Fortunately for me, I will be grandfathered in as lifetime Platinum P due to my lifetime Platinum MR status.

 

[dioxide45]

I'm surprised that MVC still hasn't provided any information to owners regarding the impact of the new program on MVC benefits. The only information I have seen was posted on Marriott Insiders specifying that we would still receive the 'arrival points' (depending on status) for MVC stays. I still haven't seen any information regarding the status levels or whether we will continue receive night credits for our MVC stays. Fortunately for me, I will be grandfathered in as lifetime Platinum P due to my lifetime Platinum MR status.

I suspect they will announce any changes when the annual option to select whichever MR account you want to associate the status to. They may also be holding off on announcing it to delay all the uproar from upset owners when their new status isn't what it used to be.

 

[glarscast]

I'm sure it's difficult for MVC and Marriott/SPG to align each of us to an appropriate status level in the new program. As a Select Member, I am entitled to Gold in the current Marriott Rewards system. Gold in the new Marriott/SPG program would be a downgrade. It should be Platinum for the Select Members. Complicating this is the fact that Vistana(Starwood) has typically given their owners Platinum status in SPG. Current SPG Platinum equates to Gold in the new system. If Vistana owners get Platinum in the new program and MVC Select and Executive owners get anything less than Platinum, I anticipate an uproar.

 

[VacationForever]

I'm sure it's difficult for MVC and Marriott/SPG to align each of us to an appropriate status level in the new program. As a Select Member, I am entitled to Gold in the current Marriott Rewards system. Gold in the new Marriott/SPG program would be a downgrade. It should be Platinum for the Select Members. Complicating this is the fact that Vistana(Starwood) has typically given their owners Platinum status in SPG. Current SPG Platinum equates to Gold in the new system. If Vistana owners get Platinum in the new program and MVC Select and Executive owners get anything less than Platinum, I anticipate an uproar.

Only 5 star elites get Platinum, the rest get Gold.

 

[glarscast]

Thank you for the clarification VacationForever. Is your comment based upon the NEW Marriott/SPG program, or are you indicating that CURRRENT 5* elites get CURRENT SPG Platinum?

I believe we are all waiting for MVC to disclose the NEW status mapping for MVC owners.

Has Vistana indicated the NEW status mapping for its owners?

 

[VacationForever]

Thank you for the clarification VacationForever. Is your comment based upon the NEW Marriott/SPG program, or are you indicating that CURRRENT 5* elites get CURRENT SPG Platinum?

I believe we are all waiting for MVC to disclose the NEW status mapping for MVC owners.

Has Vistana indicated the NEW status mapping for its owners?

Vistana owners who are up until 4 Star Elite get SPG Gold currently. In the new program, they remain as Gold. Vistana owners at 5 Star Elite get SPG Platinum currently, in the new program, they get Platinum.

 

[rsackett]

I have no where enough points. But enough nights.

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I'm in the same boat, 717 nights, less than a million points!

Ray

 

[Pocky87]

Trying to keep this page alive and to see if anyone has the first hand or insider news... 1.5 months gone and counting... not sure if they will let us know by July with sad news...

That said in all honesty, I felt MVC has always been improving... their benefits get better and better... but the points and maintenance fee get more and more expensive too... ha....

 

[Superchief]

I have been monitoring my email from MVC as well as the MR Insiders website and have still not seen important information regarding MVC and the new MR program. The only information that has been confirmed is that MR members will still receive platinum/gold point bonuses for their MVC stays (one per stay).

These are still unanswered questions:

• Will MVC nights stayed still apply to MR nights?
• Will $ spent at MVC and affiliated Marriott resorts still earn points?
• Will Maintenance fee payments on the (new/current) Chase Marriott cards still earn 5/6 points per $ paid? (I'm waiting until this is confirmed before I upgrade to the new card)
• What will be the MR status levels for the various ownership levels at MVC?

Has anyone received any information regarding these issues? I'm very disappointed that MVC hasn't yet formally communicated anything to MR members about the new program's impact on MVC benefits and stays.

 

[catharsis]

+ will MF Payments count towards the 20k spending for Ambassador Level
+ Will MVC stays count as qualifying nights towards the 50 and 75 night thresholds to be given suite night awards and so on?

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[dioxide45]

+ will MF Payments count towards the 20k spending for Ambassador Level

I find this one to be very unlikely.