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Marriott is making errors on guest confirmations for Vistana resorts

Check-in is 2/23, so there is plenty of time. RW just loves to nag.
 
It was in August, so 5 mos. ago, but recent enough to apply to the current reservation situation.

Owner not allowed to check-in: https://tugbbs.com/forums/threads/n...ervice-down-since-mariott-acquisition.366978/
Thanks. I went over and looked to refresh my memory. I certainly saw the thread but didn't remember it or how to find it now.

That said, this looks to be a one off situation where the person had a confirmation number and the resort wasn't able to find the reservation. More of a system issue than a blanket policy where the resort wants both ID and the confirmation number to checkin.

We checked in to many Vistana resorts in August through December without issue and only showing our ID. In fact, in many cases the reservation is in my wife's name but I am able to checkin showing both of our IDs.

Without any reported new situations, I am still not really convinced that resorts are demanding the guest provide a confirmation number to be able to checkin. These seem to be isolated situations and perhaps more so when a guest name change has been made.
 
I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. What I'm doing is sharing some personal experiences with different types of reservation issues so Tuggers know how to protect themselves.
 
Thanks. I went over and looked to refresh my memory. I certainly saw the thread but didn't remember it or how to find it now.

That said, this looks to be a one off situation where the person had a confirmation number and the resort wasn't able to find the reservation. More of a system issue than a blanket policy where the resort wants both ID and the confirmation number to checkin.

We checked in to many Vistana resorts in August through December without issue and only showing our ID. In fact, in many cases the reservation is in my wife's name but I am able to checkin showing both of our IDs.

Without any reported new situations, I am still not really convinced that resorts are demanding the guest provide a confirmation number to be able to checkin. These seem to be isolated situations and perhaps more so when a guest name change has been made.
I mentioned earlier on the thread that we had a problem last week when checking in at WKORVN for a Home Ownership reservation I'd made 12 months prior. This is the first time we'd had any problem in 20+ years as an owner and at any resort. They asked my name. Couldn't find the reservation. Do you have a middle initial? No. They asked my wife's name. Couldn't find the reservation. Does she have a middle initial. Yes it's L. Couldn't find the reservation. Do you have your reservation number? Not to hand but I can get it for you if I get my laptop out and sign in to our account. I was on the verge of doing this when she said, don't worry I've found it. Phew! Not sure what the problem was but it definitely happened.
 
I mentioned earlier on the thread that we had a problem last week when checking in at WKORVN for a Home Ownership reservation I'd made 12 months prior. This is the first time we'd had any problem in 20+ years as an owner and at any resort. They asked my name. Couldn't find the reservation. Do you have a middle initial? No. They asked my wife's name. Couldn't find the reservation. Does she have a middle initial. Yes it's L. Couldn't find the reservation. Do you have your reservation number? Not to hand but I can get it for you if I get my laptop out and sign in to our account. I was on the verge of doing this when she said, don't worry I've found it. Phew! Not sure what the problem was but it definitely happened.
That's unacceptable and pretty scary. Unless your name is Jones, Smith or Williams, it shouldn't be hard to find an owner's reservation with a simple name.
 
I don't think this is a manual process. I understand that when you make a VSN or home resort reservation, it shows up right away on Marriott.com in My Trips.
I agree. My experience lately has always been that the Vistana reservations made with the Villafinder always show up almost immediately in the Marriott app.

I’m wondering if it wouldn’t be prudent to also ensure the Bonvoy number for the person checking in is attached to the reservation? I’ve never been asked for anything other than ID at check-in since Marriott took over Vistana - including three stays in the past month.

Edited to add:

One of these recent stays was an II reservation. The other two were made using my parents SO - I was listed as the guest with the change made online in the Vistana system. I didn’t make a change on the Marriott site - but the reservation showed up automatically in the Bonvoy app.
 
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The key word is "GUEST" reservations. There is zero doubt that Marriott is entering Vistana guest names into their system (Marriott's system) manually, because nothing else explains Marriott confirmations (for Vistana resorts) being issued with completely wrong last names, and obvious typos. If it was all automatic, how could the names in the Marriot system be different than the names the owners entered in Vistana? This doesn't seem to apply to reservations in the owner's name, or II exchanges.
 
The key word is "GUEST" reservations. There is zero doubt that Marriott is entering Vistana guest names into their system (Marriott's system) manually, because nothing else explains Marriott confirmations (for Vistana resorts) being issued with completely wrong last names, and obvious typos. If it was all automatic, how could the names in the Marriot system be different than the names the owners entered in Vistana? This doesn't seem to apply to reservations in the owner's name, or II exchanges.
Yes, I erroneously conflated the two situations, and I apologize for my mistake.

Reservations made via Vistana will automatically get created in the Marriott system as well, essentially instantly.

Changes to the name(s) authorized to check in on an existing reservation are apparently made manually, even when submitted electronically using the online process.

Sorry for confusing things instead of clearing them up!
 
I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. What I'm doing is sharing some personal experiences with different types of reservation issues so Tuggers know how to protect themselves.
I appreciate this and always have my reservation number via the BonVoy App for our VSN and MVC reservations, but never asked as they have me in their system. As mentioned, Owner reservations show up immediately on the BonVoy App, but name changes to others takes a few days to be delisted from my account on the BonVoy App.

But... I have no control of a renter via RedWeek knowing the 8-digit number and have no idea whether RedWeek supplies it to them. Also, once the listing is removed from my account, I have no idea whether the name change was correct, nor do I have a way of finding out.

I have two RW rentals coming up soon (OFD studio, and WKV) - hope it goes well for the renter.
 
New worrying development.

How it used to work: after changing guest name for a Home Resort Reservation on the Vistana website, the Vistana reservation updated immediately, while Marriott used to take a day or two to update.

How it works now (at least for me): same immediate Vistana update, but Marriott reservation does not get updated at all!

First it happened when my guest told me the resort still sees the reservation under my name, even though I changed it a month ago. I checked Marriott - indeed, it was under my name. I called Vistana and they updated the Marriott side right away on the phone. I thought it was just an error happening once, but now it happened again. A week after Vistana update, still no update on Marriott.

Anyone else had it happen recently?
 
Yes - It is because Marriott is hand-entering the guest names in the system, and some reservations are slipping through the cracks. I check on all of them now, about 3 days after the Vistana name change. My experience has been that when this happens and you call, they usually want you to fill out the Marriott long-form to submit the correction.
 
My guests had no issue with checking in (Feb 8th, WKORV OFD studio) - they even got a villa location change they requested.

DeniseM - How does one check whether or not MVC made the name change correctly? (I asked this before).
For my rentals - once the name change is made on the MVC side. I can no longer see (or access) the reservation on my BonVoy account - only on the Vistana side. How do you know a mistake was made (or not) by MVC?
 
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Hi Dave - They have started sending out Marriott version 8-digit guest confirmations to the owner, about 3 days after the owner makes the name change.
 
Hi Dave - They have started sending out Marriott version 8-digit guest confirmations to the owner, about 3 days after the owner makes the name change.
I get the 8-digit MVC confirmation for my reservation from my BonVoy account (as this is required by RedWeek to send to them as part of the rental procedure), but get nothing from MVC once the name change is made (as it disappears from my BonVoy site).

Are you saying the Owner (me) that made a name change (for a rental) gets something from Marriott/MVC that has their name and 8-digit number? Is the 8-digit number different than original?
I never have received anything from MAR/MVC, and I have one completed reservation (ongoing) and one coming up at WKV.
 
Yes: Vistana reservation numbers have 6-digits. Marriott reservation numbers have 8-digits. The format of the confirmations is quite a bit different as well. When you make a new Vistana reservation on your account, they send owners the 8-digit confirmation, and around 2 mos. ago, they started sending owners 8-digit Marriott GUEST confirmations, as well - about 3 days after you receive the Vistana 6-digit confirmation.
 
As long as you know the 8-digit Bonvoy confirmation number and the guests last name, you can look it up using this information on Marriott.com. Best to not be logged in to your Bonvoy account when doing this. Do it not logged in. You should also be able to verify that the name was changed correctly that way.
 
Thanks - DeniseM shared with me. As always, TUG is the best source of TS info.

Does MVC change the 8-digit ID upon name change?

Very strange; I just checked my BV account and it lists today's rental reservation info in the renter's name and MVC number (don't recall if the same as originally received). This info was not there a couple of weeks ago.

I have an upcoming rental reservation in a few weeks at WKV that does not show the renter's info.
 
Does MVC change the 8-digit ID upon name change?
No, the numbers do not change: The Marriott version of the confirmation will always have the 8-digit number, and the Vistana version of the confirmation will always have the 6-digit number. Because we all need more numbers to keep track of!
 
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Thanks - DeniseM shared with me. As always, TUG is the best source of TS info.

Does MVC change the 8-digit ID upon name change?

Very strange; I just checked my BV account and it lists today's rental reservation info in the renter's name and MVC number (don't recall if the same as originally received). This info was not there a couple of weeks ago.

I have an upcoming rental reservation in a few weeks at WKV that does not show the renter's info.
I suspect they failed to remove your Bonvoy number from the confirmation. Thus why it still shows in your Bonvoy account. It is also possible it is a multi-step process and they will get around to removing it recently.

You may want to contact owner services about that confirmation that isn't in the guests name. Or perhaps change the guest name in Vistana.com back to you and then back to the renter again?
 
So I've had 2 HRA reservations recently that I changed into my guest's names, and after a couple weeks the reservations are still in my name on the Marriott side. Called owner services and they said "something broke in the link to send the name change to Marriott". They had to email me a guest change form to fill out for Marriott. Waiting to see if that works.

I have never gotten a Marriott email with the Marriott confirmation number for a name change. But then again, I never get an email from Marriott when I make a hotel reservation like I used to, and my wife still does when she makes a reservation from her account. Marriott has "reset" my account changed to a different email and back, nothing works and they can't figure out why.
 
Got one yesterday: Guest's name is "Bonnie," Marriott entered "Boonie," and sent out the confirmation that way - they must not proofread what they hand enter at all.
 
Redweek is nagging me for a name change to the Marriott # for a 2/7/2026 reservation. I added the name with Vistana on 2/21, Marriott still has the week in Rick's Marriott account. They say it takes up to 10 business days to change it.
 
I have an even worse situation - in reverse - and it is turning into a nightmare. I am sharing here to see if anyone else is experiencing same.

I am a 20+year owner at WKOVR, (2 - 2Bd/2Ba OF Deluxe units) and over 15 year owner also in Lagunamar (2 - 2/2 there also plus one EOY), have been Elite 5* for 15 years now. Needless to say I am very familiar with how the reservation and cancellation systems work, even the new system showing reservations on Vistana and Marriott/Bonvoy.

On January 17th 2025 I cancelled a WKOVR 2025 OF Deluxe studio unit reservation that was to start on 3/29.
Well ahead of the 61 day cutoff to return the unit to my 2025 home resort inventory.
I received a cancellation confirmation in my email same day from the Marriott system, showing both the reservation number of the unit I cancelled and a separate cancellation confirmation number as well. (Two different numbers.). Thinking all was well, I waited a few weeks to decide when to reserve later in the year, knowing I still had time to reserve in my home resort owner period as long as my new booking went in ahead of the 8 month cutoff for non-owners to access inventory.

On Feb 7th I logged into Vistana to add the studio to the other 2 one bedrooms I already had booked for November 1.
The system rejected me, displaying a message that I did not have an eligible unit or some such.
Looking on the Balances page, I discovered no studio unit had been "returned" to my 2025 WKOVR ownership totals.
Yet I had the cancellation notification in hand?
Never having had such a problem ever before and having cancelled and rebooked home owner reservations in the past, I called customer service.

At that point, I gave all the info to the rep and she began looking into it, finally coming back and admitting there was some sort of systems glitch as while the Marriott cancellation confirmation supported my description of events, somehow there was no record or date showing of the same on the Vistana system. Now my studio unit is completely missing. The rep then went away and came back and said something to the effect that yes they could see there was an issue on the back end and they would "make a one-time accommodation" and "allow me to reserve the studio in November using my home resort owner period and not restrict me going forward". She then attempted to make the reservation for me -- and could not. Now we both know we really have a problem.

So now the rep has to open up a trouble ticket for tech support, gives me a "case number" and apologizes as she says "this may take a few days ...possibly up to 2 weeks"??.(!)...ie., Feb 21st." Keep in mind that my home resort reservation window for Nov 1 will close on -- March 1st.

So I call back on Feb 17th to check, just in case and again, nothing is fixed. At that point I say I will check back again on 2/24 as previously promised.
On February 24th, she can see they are working on it but asking for "9-10 more business days". I then ask for a manager and escalate.
I go through all the info with him and suggest that now time is short -- it is now coming up on 4 weeks with no progress and no resolution.
The manager looks into it and says "oh I see, yes they don't have it fixed." Not that they were working on it, but it isn't fixed.
He then proceeds to tell me that I did not cancel the reservation according to the rules and my unit has been turned back into inventory and that this is really my fault. What? I must admit, finally I lost patience and let my irritation show. I have never been so insulted. He tells me that he has worked on the program for 8 years etc etc and he knows all the rules and I just don't have it right....at which point I noted that I have the cancellation confirmation that shows I did, that I have owned and reserved units for over 20 years myself - paying them a lot $$ annually - and frankly I did not appreciate being treated as if I did not know exactly what I was doing.
He then acknowledged that any solution in the next 24 hours was unlikely but the one thing he could do - and promised over and over - was that he would at least call me back *the next day*. Well, you can imagine - that never happened either.

My next call to customer service March 2 was just to get a status update, since my home resort reservation window had come and gone, and now I'm just trying to get my unit back *at all* to reserve. Home resort or not, I want to use the unit in 2025. The inventory I want is still showing available online but - again - we are all still waiting for tech support. Finally I ask her - can they just at least *hold* a unit for me while we get the other resolved. It would seem to me that should be doable. Again she tried - I spent over an hour and a half waiting politely on hold and waiting for help - but in the end, no one could do *anything* to "resolve". I will simply have to wait for March 11th to see if someone managed this - again.

Meanwhile, it actually gets worse. I went online tonight (March 6 2025) to reserve one of my 2 bd 2 bath units for *2026*. Adding insult to injury, the automated system is restricting me from making a home resort reservation *in 2026* -- as if I had never cancelled the 2025 unit at all. Now the impact has spread from 2025 into all 4 of my units for 2026. Absolutely unacceptable.

If anyone out there has experienced something like this, please post and make sure everyone knows what is going on.
It is much more damaging than a simple systems mixup or clerical error when thousands of dollars in fees are at risk.

Thanks to those of you who posted your other experiences here.
I felt pretty alone until I saw your other experiences (and explanations) of what is happening "behind the scenes".
I will post again if there is a resolution or not by 3/11....
 
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So frustrated! I've been using Redweek for years to successfully rent units by way of their verified system. 10 days ago I paid money for a rental that the owner accepted, and it is still waiting for final confirmation! Thank goodness I have credit card protection. I rented from the same resort back in November and everything went thru within the 5 day period. Recently after reading the Redweek Forums, I found out that Redweek changed their rules and no longer provide contact info for either party to be able to reach eachother. Also, I found out Marriott (the resort in question ) no longer is allowing last minute rentals within 30 days of check in, (the unit we are attempting to rent is 8 days over that range). Apparently there is a HUGE back log in the name change system and several errors are being made with mis-pelling names etc. In the past I have been able to call the resort to verify that the owner on redweek is an owner at the resort. Marriott is no longer allowing me ANY info, which I can understand. However, Redweek has reached out to the owner twice with no response so I don't even know if he has attempted to change names on reservation to my name. Marriott could not find me in their reservation system.

I have no other choice but to cancel this rented unit or double book a hotel in the location I'm traveling to that has free cancellation in case this goes thru.

Have others Owners/renters been experiencing struggles like this?? Any advice?
 
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