Marriott Grand chateau TDI question

[Red elephant]

Hello,
I just received my MGC 2BR into my account . I went to look up the TDI and it showed weeks 26, 25,23 as one of the highest . This is summer in Vegas. Is that accurate ? Maybe I am looking at it wrong. This is my first time locking off and depositing .

 

[DRH90277]

TDI for MGC is pretty consistent throughout the year and it's pretty easy to get in there. Of course, there are special events, etc. which can cause high demand.

You might find it interesting to look at the rentals on Redweek for the supposed hot reservations usually for less than a week period. Points work better for these and the rental rates can be quite high.

 

[Red elephant]

I also see week 13 and that is Easter so maybe I will go with that one and deposit.

 

[Pamplemousse]

I also see week 13 and that is Easter so maybe I will go with that one and deposit.

I don’t believe there is any real evidence that weeks that we consider “special” have higher trading power than other weeks with the same TDI.

 

[Red elephant]

I don’t believe there is any real evidence that weeks that we consider “special” have higher trading power than other weeks with the same TDI.

According to interval week 13 has a high TDI and that corresponds to Easter for 2024 so I am assuming that I am reading it correctly but the other weeks have me confused because it’s end of June.

 

[Pamplemousse]

According to interval week 13 has a high TDI and that corresponds to Easter for 2024 so I am assuming that I am reading it correctly but the other weeks have me confused because it’s end of June.

For 2024 week 13 has TDI 135.

 

[Red elephant]

I don’t believe there is any real evidence that weeks that we consider “special” have higher trading power than other weeks with the same

For 2024 week 13 has TDI 135.

Ok that’s what I saw. Thank you .

 

[DRH90277]

Grand Chateau - We originally bought this as a trader or for the Bonvoy Points it would produce. The Bonvoy points have been devalued to the extent that we don't mess with them anymore. Our best uses over a number of years have been for Interval Exchanges as it trades so well. We routinely do the lock-off and then get two good Interval exchanges. I don't worry much about the TDI as it doesn't seem to matter much - "It's Las Vegas."

All the best with your new unit.

 

[AlmostRetired]

Las Vegas has the 5th largest number of hotel rooms of any city in the world and has the largest in the United States. It is second to Orlando for the largest number of timeshares. Las Vegas is a desirable location for corporate company events, corporate partner events, trade shows, vacationers, gamblers, show goers, bachelor/bachelorette parties and weddings. This is why Vegas has a 51 week platinum and 1 week platinum plus season. This makes for a smaller spread for TDI. The interesting but understandable fact, as desirable as Vegas is, the number of hotel rooms and timeshare units make it a lousy renter (outside of event weeks).

I owned a 2 bedroom EOY GC as an experimental trader before selling it and getting annual and EOY 3 bedroom units. I own a platinum MGO. The last few years, I traded all my GC lock-off units to get into the MGO for multi week stays. If it is a trader, an early deposit window is also important. In my experience, a swing of 20 points TDI is less important if it delays your depositing window of 2 months or more.

 

[scootr5]

I also see week 13 and that is Easter so maybe I will go with that one and deposit.

If it is a trader, an early deposit window is also important. In my experience, a swing of 20 points TDI is less important if it delays your depositing window of 2 months or more.

That was going to be my suggestion - look at booking weeks 41, 42 or 43 and depositing a year out. You will then have longer to use the deposits, and it likely will have little to know impact on your trade strength.

 

[DRH90277]

Las Vegas has the 5th largest number of hotel rooms of any city in the world and has the largest in the United States. It is second to Orlando for the largest number of timeshares. Las Vegas is a desirable location for corporate company events, corporate partner events, trade shows, vacationers, gamblers, show goers, bachelor/bachelorette parties and weddings. This is why Vegas has a 51 week platinum and 1 week platinum plus season. This makes for a smaller spread for TDI. The interesting but understandable fact, as desirable as Vegas is, the number of hotel rooms and timeshare units make it a lousy renter (outside of event weeks).

I owned a 2 bedroom EOY GC as an experimental trader before selling it and getting annual and EOY 3 bedroom units. I own a platinum MGO. The last few years, I traded all my GC lock-off units to get into the MGO for multi week stays. If it is a trader, an early deposit window is also important. In my experience, a swing of 20 points TDI is less important if it delays your depositing window of 2 months or more.

Absolutely, I agree MGC weeks are a lousy rental. Using points for a few high demand days is probably the optimum rental for Grand Chateau - but who wants to mess with all this including mini rentals. Rentals to me are an occasional helpful option when I want cash for maintenance fees or have excess. I can't imagine buying into timeshare solely to make money from rentals - my get a "real job" attitude may be showing through .

There is another bright spot for MGC exchanges - it is one of the best for Interval exchanges after one exercises the lock-off. You pay Interval a little extra to upgrade the Studio to exchange for a 1 bedroom.

 

[AlmostRetired]

There is another bright spot for MGC exchanges - it is one of the best for Interval exchanges after one exercises the lock-off. You pay Interval a little extra to upgrade the Studio to exchange for a 1 the

There is a very good financial argument that was developed on why it is better to own a 2 bedroom GC over a 3 bedroom GC if you are locking off and trading. I know some if not many people will agree with this 2 over 3 bedroom approach. I am not one of them for how we vacation. We are a beach family. This year our timeshare vacations were St Thomas, Marco Island and Hilton Head. We only go after 2 bedroom hoping family or friends came join, often well in advance of anyone able to commit. We are okay with a 2 bedroom for my wife and I if no one can.

We mostly trade for platinum MGO, often trying to string multiple weeks either before or after our owner reserved weeks. It is much easier to get 2 bedrooms with a smaller trading window into platinum season with a 2 and 1 bedroom than you can with a studio and 1 bedroom. You tend to get the trade sooner. Having owned both, the 3 bedroom lock-off works better for me.

 

[DRH90277]

There is a very good financial argument that was developed on why it is better to own a 2 bedroom GC over a 3 bedroom GC if you are locking off and trading. I know some if not many people will agree with this 2 over 3 bedroom approach. I am not one of them for how we vacation. We are a beach family. This year our timeshare vacations were St Thomas, Marco Island and Hilton Head. We only go after 2 bedroom hoping family or friends came join, often well in advance of anyone able to commit. We are okay with a 2 bedroom for my wife and I if no one can.

We mostly trade for platinum MGO, often trying to string multiple weeks either before or after our owner reserved weeks. It is much easier to get 2 bedrooms with a smaller trading window into platinum season with a 2 and 1 bedroom than you can with a studio and 1 bedroom. You tend to get the trade sooner. Having owned both, the 3 bedroom lock-off works better for me.

If you did a lock-off from a 3 bdrm MGC what would it look like? 2 bdrm + studio for 2 rentals; 1 bdrm + 1 bdrm + studio for 3 rentals; etc. I'm not advocating rentals but merely trying to understand lock-off prospects for a 3 bdrm unit.

I like your approach to exchanges - a desert property for a beach property.

 

[jwalk03]

If you did a lock-off from a 3 bdrm MGC what would it look like? 2 bdrm + studio for 2 rentals; 1 bdrm + 1 bdrm + studio for 3 rentals; etc. I'm not advocating rentals but merely trying to understand lock-off prospects for a 3 bdrm unit.

I like your approach to exchanges - a desert property for a beach property.

The 3BR GC locks off into a 2BR and a 1BR- so 2 trades. You can't lock it off into 3 units. But the advantage is no studio- which certainly has lower trade power than a 1BR.

 

[AlmostRetired]

If you did a lock-off from a 3 bdrm MGC what would it look like? 2 bdrm + studio for 2 rentals; 1 bdrm + 1 bdrm + studio for 3 rentals; etc. I'm not advocating rentals but merely trying to understand lock-off prospects for a 3 bdrm unit.

I like your approach to exchanges - a desert property for a beach property.

3 Bedroom trades as a 2 bedroom and 1 bedroom. For what I look to do, a true 2 bedroom and 1 bedroom makes a difference. Attached is the floor plan of the 3 bedroom with the caveat that there might be small deviations.

 

[lotus921v]

There is a very good financial argument that was developed on why it is better to own a 2 bedroom GC over a 3 bedroom GC if you are locking off and trading. I know some if not many people will agree with this 2 over 3 bedroom approach. I am not one of them for how we vacation. We are a beach family. This year our timeshare vacations were St Thomas, Marco Island and Hilton Head. We only go after 2 bedroom hoping family or friends came join, often well in advance of anyone able to commit. We are okay with a 2 bedroom for my wife and I if no one can.

We mostly trade for platinum MGO, often trying to string multiple weeks either before or after our owner reserved weeks. It is much easier to get 2 bedrooms with a smaller trading window into platinum season with a 2 and 1 bedroom than you can with a studio and 1 bedroom. You tend to get the trade sooner. Having owned both, the 3 bedroom lock-off works better for me.

this is what's super intriguing to me. we always get at least a 2br and I'm wondering if I'm shorting myself by only having 2br GC's to lock off and trade as a studio and 1br. you frequently can see platinum MGO with your 3br? I haven't seen ANY with what I own

 

[AlmostRetired]

this is what's super intriguing to me. we always get at least a 2br and I'm wondering if I'm shorting myself by only having 2br GC's to lock off and trade as a studio and 1br. you I did get them with a one bedroom side of the 2 bedroom lock-off using a trade request. With the studio side I could see a non beach resorts using the immediate trade request almost all the time or at the GO or Monarch within 60 days using the same request. As a reminder if within 60 days, all resorts are fair game for anyone. Don't get me wrong, I got some great trades with the Studio. A 2 bedroom OceanWatch during Easter, a 2 bedroom Palm Desert during Christmas and a summer 1 bedroom in Aruba.

I never trade the 3 bedroom as a 3 bedroom. only as the 2 and 1 bedroom. I did get a GO platinum with a one bedroom side of the 2 bedroom lock-off using a trade request. Most of the time it was August but not all of the time. With the studio side I could see non beach Marriot resorts using the immediate trade request almost all the time or at the GO or Monarch within 60 days using the same request. As a reminder if within 60 days, all resorts are fair game for anyone. Don't get me wrong, I got some great trades with the Studio. A 2 bedroom OceanWatch during Easter, a 2 bedroom Palm Desert during Christmas and a summer 1 bedroom in Aruba. This year I was able to get the same week (minus 1 day) at the GO from a trade and using my owner unit because I need two units. I rented points and have a request in to add a day earlier on one unit and a day later on the other to make it an eight day stay knowing I may need to change rooms but hoping to do not.

 

[Red elephant]

That was going to be my suggestion - look at booking weeks 41, 42 or 43 and depositing a year out. You will then have longer to use the deposits, and it likely will have little to know impact on your trade strength.

That was going to be my suggestion - look at booking weeks 41, 42 or 43 and depositing a year out. You will then have longer to use the deposits, and it likely will have little to know impact on your trade strength.

Ah ok. Understood. I am going to cancel then.

 

[Red elephant]

Las Vegas has the 5th largest number of hotel rooms of any city in the world and has the largest in the United States. It is second to Orlando for the largest number of timeshares. Las Vegas is a desirable location for corporate company events, corporate partner events, trade shows, vacationers, gamblers, show goers, bachelor/bachelorette parties and weddings. This is why Vegas has a 51 week platinum and 1 week platinum plus season. This makes for a smaller spread for TDI. The interesting but understandable fact, as desirable as Vegas is, the number of hotel rooms and timeshare units make it a lousy renter (outside of event weeks).

I owned a 2 bedroom EOY GC as an experimental trader before selling it and getting annual and EOY 3 bedroom units. I own a platinum MGO. The last few years, I traded all my GC lock-off units to get into the MGO for multi week stays. If it is a trader, an early deposit window is also important. In my experience, a swing of 20 points TDI is less important if it delays your depositing window of 2 months or more.

It’s purely for trading. So will take you advise .

 

[Red elephant]

I never trade the 3 bedroom as a 3 bedroom. only as the 2 and 1 bedroom. I did get a GO platinum with a one bedroom side of the 2 bedroom lock-off using a trade request. Most of the time it was August but not all of the time. With the studio side I could see non beach Marriot resorts using the immediate trade request almost all the time or at the GO or Monarch within 60 days using the same request. As a reminder if within 60 days, all resorts are fair game for anyone. Don't get me wrong, I got some great trades with the Studio. A 2 bedroom OceanWatch during Easter, a 2 bedroom Palm Desert during Christmas and a summer 1 bedroom in Aruba. This year I was able to get the same week (minus 1 day) at the GO from a trade and using my owner unit because I need two units. I rented points and have a request in to add a day earlier on one unit and a day later on the other to make it an eight day stay knowing I may need to change rooms but hoping to do not.

My interests are trading into 1 bedroom in Aruba, Lakeshore reserve and once in a while MGO. We did not want to pay the high maintenance fees at some of these other resorts.

 

[AlmostRetired]

My interests are trading into 1 bedroom in Aruba, Lakeshore reserve and once in a while MGO. We did not want to pay the high maintenance fees at some of these other resorts.

You can get 1 bedroom easily with the Studio of a 2 Bedroom. When are you looking to use whatever week you reserve?

 

[dioxide45]

As I have mentioned in many other threads, we place far too much importance on trade power when it really impacts perhaps the top 5% of trades. For most Marriott to Marriott exchanges, just about any week on deposit will get you what you are looking for. The major challenges will be HHI in summer with the exception of late August which is an pretty easy exchange. Spring and fall are rather easy, even spring break (it isn’t really swimming weather in HHI in the early spring). Holiday weeks and pure summer weeks in Hawaii and South Carolina are about the only real exceptions where trades with almost anything are hard. Even summer in Aruba is an easy exchange through II. If you are traveling in shoulder or off season, it doesn’t matter what you deposit. If you are traveling in summer, larger unit size more often trumps TDI in determining what exchange you can get. There are certainly exceptions to everything, especially for the more persistent.

 

[Red elephant]

You can get 1 bedroom easily with the Studio of a 2 Bedroom. When are you looking to use whatever week you reserve?

Lakeshore Feb of 2025. Aruba November 2025 and MGO June 2025.

 

[lotus921v]

As I have mentioned in many other threads, we place far too much importance on trade power when it really impacts perhaps the top 5% of trades. For most Marriott to Marriott exchanges, just about any week on deposit will get you what you are looking for. The major challenges will be HHI in summer with the exception of late August which is a pretty easy exchange. Spring and fall are rather easy, even spring break (it isn’t really swimming weather in HHI in the early spring). Holiday weeks and pure summer weeks in Hawaii and South Carolina are about the only real exceptions where trades with almost anything are hard. Even summer in Aruba is an easy exchange through II. If you are traveling in shoulder or off season, it doesn’t matter what you deposit. If you are traveling in summer, larger unit size more often trumps TDI in determining what exchange you can get. There are certainly exceptions to everything, especially for the more persistent.

What would be your recommendation on when to trade studio vs 1br?

 

[Red elephant]

As I have mentioned in many other threads, we place far too much importance on trade power when it really impacts perhaps the top 5% of trades. For most Marriott to Marriott exchanges, just about any week on deposit will get you what you are looking for. The major challenges will be HHI in summer with the exception of late August which is an pretty easy exchange. Spring and fall are rather easy, even spring break (it isn’t really swimming weather in HHI in the early spring). Holiday weeks and pure summer weeks in Hawaii and South Carolina are about the only real exceptions where trades with almost anything are hard. Even summer in Aruba is an easy exchange through II. If you are traveling in shoulder or off season, it doesn’t matter what you deposit. If you are traveling in summer, larger unit size more often trumps TDI in determining what exchange you can get. There are certainly exceptions to everything, especially for the more persistent.

This is good to know as we travel during shoulder season. This is my first entrance into trading with Marriott to Marriott. I exchanged my SDO small 1 bedroom for Lakeshore 1 bedroom in January as could not get February .