Marriott Aruba Ocean Club Owners Being Ripped Off By Marriott - READ IF AN OWNER

[modoaruba]

I think he's probably put up in whichever room of the hotel he chooses, and he probably makes it very worthwhile for whoever is in that room to move.

Fifty-thirteen is "a whole bunch." It comes in handy when you're too lazy to go back and count.

"It's good to be king"
I for one would be extremely joyful and full of glee if Mr. Marriott would offer me fifty-thirteen to relinquish my room.

 

[SueDonJ]

:rofl: You got that right - I'd even volunteer to do his housekeeping!

 

[modoaruba]

:rofl: You got that right - I'd even volunteer to do his housekeeping!

Now,don't sell youself short.You're better than that.

 

[marksue]

it has gotten quite here. Let me see what I can dig up to post so we can get some verbiage going .

 

[qlaval]

The 2010 2nd Phase Renovation Assessment are now available online.
Due date 04/01/2010

$337.30/one-bedroom
$484.25/two-bedroom

 

[billymach4]

it has gotten quite here. Let me see what I can dig up to post so we can get some verbiage going .

You can issue a new theory on how Marriott will make everything right with AOC when their new and improved internal points trading system rolls out on June 1, 2010!

Oh I know......

Marriott will be reinstating ROFR starting with AOC at 60% of full retail. Planned rollout date will be on 04/01/2010.

 

[SueDonJ]

MAOC, points exchange and ROFR. Wow, I'm impressed, you hit the trifecta of Marriott subjects most likely to devolve into long repetitive argumentative repetitive snarky repetitive threads on TUG. Oh wait, did I say repetitive? :hysterical:

 

[billymach4]

We should round up signatures and send them in to TUGBRIAN for a separate forum on MAOC, ROFR, and Marriott internal trading system!

What a HOOT!

 

[modoaruba]

Been away from this for a while so pardon my ignorance.
What is this new point system about and how does it make better my Marrrriott ownership?
Any time I hear anything new and improved I always ask how much more is it going to cost me or devalue my devalued TS further.
I hope I am wrong so clue me in so I can sleep comfortably tonight.
I can't wait

 

[Dave M]

What is this new point system about and how does it make better my Marrrriott ownership?

See this current thread for the current discussion as to what the new points program might be, assuming it is implemented this summer on schedule. Since Marriott has not announced the program or any details about it, almost everything in the thread is speculation. Please post in that thread if you want more information about the as-yet nonexistent program.

 

[ecwinch]

it has gotten quite here. Let me see what I can dig up to post so we can get some verbiage going .

Just give our viewers at home a status update. Or can that only happen when Allan issues one?

 

[modoaruba]

See this current thread for the current discussion as to what the new points program might be, assuming it is implemented this summer on schedule. Since Marriott has not announced the program or any details about it, almost everything in the thread is speculation. Please post in that thread if you want more information about the as-yet nonexistent program.

Thanks Dave.
Wow, long thread.

 

[Steve A]

Received a letter from the Board yesterday. So far cost of litigation has been $100,000.

 

[rickxylon]

Now's the time to stop beating this dead horse, stop wasting everyone's time and save some money.

 

[lovearuba]

why do you care

Now's the time to stop beating this dead horse, stop wasting everyone's time and save some money.

why would you care and since the concerned owners dont believe the information provided by the board what incentive do we have to drop it. We did not reopen this thread did we?

 

[Dave M]

We did not reopen this thread did we?

It was reopened by an owner. This thread's title is addressed to all owners - not just to the concerned owners' group.

 

[ecwinch]

why would you care and since the concerned owners dont believe the information provided by the board what incentive do we have to drop it. We did not reopen this thread did we?

Love,

It should be obvious from their profile why they care. They are concerned owners also, just concerned about a different problem.

 

[tlwmkw]

lovearuba,

rickxylon and Steve A are both listed as owners at the Aruba Ocean Club.

tlwmkw

 

[lovearuba]

listed and wanting what

lovearuba,

rickxylon and Steve A are both listed as owners at the Aruba Ocean Club.

tlwmkw

Remember that everything that is posted by a person that believes in the cause is challenged relentlessley. When Marriott publishes information on legal fees, it is taken as truth and people post to complain about the cause asking for justification. I dont know nor care if the posters own Marriott, there is no validation of that since this site allows anyone and everyone to post to it. I also dont care if the posters believe in the cause. Just cant understand why they would open up the post again if they really wanted the issue to go away.

 

[tlwmkw]

Lovearuba,

I don't think the two owners who posted are upset about this thread and asking that it go away. They want to stop the legal pressure on the Ocean Club board that is causing the board to have to spend money to protect themselves. Why do you doubt that there are legal fees as a result of all this? Lawyers don't come cheap- 100k is a drop in the bucket if you think in terms of billable hours at $350 an hour.

tlwmkw

 

[Dean]

Remember that everything that is posted by a person that believes in the cause is challenged relentlessley. When Marriott publishes information on legal fees, it is taken as truth and people post to complain about the cause asking for justification. I dont know nor care if the posters own Marriott, there is no validation of that since this site allows anyone and everyone to post to it. I also dont care if the posters believe in the cause. Just cant understand why they would open up the post again if they really wanted the issue to go away.

I would question the validity of the first statement because I don't think it to be accurate. Some posted info has been challenged, not relentlessly, certainly not beyond the fervor that it was posted and not inappropriately from what I've seen. As I've said several times during this thread, not accepting the posted info as gospel is not the same as saying it is incorrect. I also wouldn't equate this thread going away with the issues going away (either way). I think it is interesting (and revealing) that you don't care about the views of those who are owners there, or even Marriott owners in general, who do not agree with the stance that some have taken. I do think it is reasonable to accept the published info of the BOD and Marriott as reliable information as I think they'd have too much to lose to put wrong data in writing purposefully, YMMV. Frankly, I'm surprised it's only $100K, I'd have expected about $250K at this point and would expect the number to climb over time even if no further action is taken on either side.

 

[modoaruba]

:deadhorse: Is this what you guys were looking for?

 

[mnabnpos]

Has the board shown any proof to any of the owners that they have spent this amount on lawyers? I personally have not received any proof of these expenses and question the validity. Maybe this is the beginning of sucking more assessment money (will this be assessment #3 now??) from the owners.

 

[ecwinch]

Remember that everything that is posted by a person that believes in the cause is challenged relentlessley. When Marriott publishes information on legal fees, it is taken as truth and people post to complain about the cause asking for justification. I dont know nor care if the posters own Marriott, there is no validation of that since this site allows anyone and everyone to post to it. I also dont care if the posters believe in the cause. Just cant understand why they would open up the post again if they really wanted the issue to go away.

Love,

This is hardly an accurate presentation of the facts. Almost every time that Marriott or the AOC provides information to the owners, Mark posts a line by line rebuttal of every element of the information they provide.

Why suspect some ulterior motive when a fellow owner makes a post? Just a few posts back, Mark is asking how to encourage more dialog in this thread.

Perhaps the concerned owners want this thread to go away, but for a different reason.

 

[rickxylon]

We love Aruba. We own 2 weeks at the Ocean Club and 1 week at the Surf Club. We do not work for Marriott. We believe we are entitled to express our opinion, even if we don't rant about it. We have followed this issue in this long thread since the beginning and were initially sympathetic to the concerned owners group. At this stage we cannot see any reason for the owner(s) continuing to pursue the law suit and eating up more money from the rest of the owners.

Please share what can possibly be gained at this stage. Perhaps some of us are missing something or perhaps the 80+% who voted to approve the by-law change have had enough of this litigous behavior, even though some may not be willing to admit that.