Let's recap.
OP wrote:
I have a 2BDR at SVR since 2008 that I bought resale. I am quite happy with the uses, exchanges and benefits obtained through membership in II (getaways and guest certificates) I have had since obtaining the property.
The OP is not the only other post confirming great trades to Hawaii and elsewhere using SVR.
Of course, future trade value and ability is an unknown though many (including me) have reported poorer availability since SO banking became effective (and which now may be complicated by the FLEX program TBD) in terms of trading to the Maui Starwood properties. I'm planning on using my WKV StarOptions next year at WKORV. Some Starwood resorts (Harborside, WSJ...) are rarely deposited at II and no one should ever plan on obtaining trades, though it's happened.
I never wrote that SDO or SVR were bad traders.
Yes, you did.
SDO is a good trader, not as good as Kierland. Vistana anything pretty much suck as traders.
Why do you feel a need to keep trying to justify you week to me? Not once did I reference you or your ownership initially [edited] You are acting like those posters who put down being 5 star elite, yet they have never been 5 star elite. Those of us who are 5 star, love it.....its only those who are not, put it down and try to belittle its value.
I'm not justifying my week to you...I'm posting my results at using SVR with II trading which directly contradicts your contention that it sucks as a trader.
Keep in mind I no longer own SVR. And, you're still not answering my questions.
Do you really think I've lost hold of reality? I'm trying to relate my experience to others which directly contradicts the previous posts you've made about the effectiveness of trading a supposedly poor quality trader. To this end I've supplied the details of my experience (by the way, this experience is a *fact*).
SVR, SDO, SVV.....et al are fine resorts. What I said is WKV has better trading value (fact). WKV is the best jack of all Starwood (fact).
Let's digress into defining "fact", since it seems your definition differs from mine and you do love this word (it's in almost every one of your posts in this thread!).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fact
A fact is something that has really occurred or is actually the case. The usual test for a statement of fact is verifiability, that is, whether it can be demonstrated to correspond to experience. Standard reference works are often used to check facts. Scientific facts are verified by repeatable careful observation or measurement (by experiments or other means).
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fact
noun
1. something that actually exists; reality; truth:
Your fears have no basis in fact.
2. something known to exist or to have happened:
Space travel is now a fact.
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true:
Scientists gather facts about plant growth.
4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened:
The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.
5. Law.. Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence.
You haven't proven that WKV is a much better trader than SVR (as in WKV is great and SVR sucks), but you've said it over and over that it is...perhaps you subscribe to the belief that if you say the same thing many times it becomes true.
I think the reality is that both WKV and SVR are excellent II traders. WKV may be 1% better, perhaps more, but the practical side of II trading comes into play in that SVR is still much, much better than most of the other resorts at II that SVR trades excellently. It's not the absolute best, and neither is WKV, but it also definitively does not suck.
You can tout all the things you have done with yours.....bully for you. My usage has been better....bully for me.
You are taking this personally, aren't you? You shouldn't - this isn't a personal issue. We're trying to help others by relating our experience so that others may benefit by purchasing the best timeshare for their particular needs. It's too bad you can't simply have a civil conversation without the mods having to edit your posts (I didn't see the original version of your post today) and admit when you might be wrong. If you can PROVE that SVR sucks at trading then I'll be happy to admit I was wrong. (I actually enjoy it when I'm wrong, since that means I learned something and I'm always interested in learning). I posted my trade history with SVR and SDO to illustrate that these resorts, particularly SVR, trades great. Your "facts" are insupportable, based on my experience, and I have yet to see the overwhelming evidence that should be easy for you to find if your contention was true.
I know my reality, I know my experience and I certainly know how II and Starwood system works.
Then enlighten us! Where are your facts? Prove that SVR is a horrible trader, as you contend.
One day I hope you get to my level of knowledge and experience.
Wow, really? I'm sorry you are so defensive. I'm here to learn from others and in turn post my experiences...positively. It's a shame you can't do the same. But, wait! You earlier posted that I am an "experienced owner".
You are an experienced owner and have gotten great trades.
Can I be both experienced and yet not at your "level of knowledge and experience"? I suppose it's possible I really don't know what I'm doing, even though you obviously thought I did earlier. :hysterical:
PS - My timeshare is better then yours, nana-nana-boo-boo. :rofl:
Um.... sigh.
