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[Gypsie]

I own winter season (Platinum) through the developer (148,000 SO's). I think I might give Starwood a call and see if is showing correctly with II. It seems like other owners have stronger exchange power with there's than I do. It doesn't make any sense.

 

[Robert D]

Starwood is probably not depositing a very good week for you - might not even be depositing a SMV ski week. I'd ask them what they are depositing next time before you pull the trigger. A prime 2BR ski week at SMV should have great trading power, l'd think a lot stronger than SDO.

 

[GrayFal]

I own winter season (Platinum) through the developer (148,000 SO's). I think I might give Starwood a call and see if is showing correctly with II. It seems like other owners have stronger exchange power with there's than I do. It doesn't make any sense.

Why don't you post your results on this thread... http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66501

And after you call Starwood - I think you actually have to call the II Starwood desk - my PGA week was 'broken' - (no apparent Starwood preference) and they fixed it - it had been entered into the system incorrectly.

 

[Gypsie]

Called

I called Starwood right before 6 pm this evening but they couldn't get in touch with II. II might have already been closed but they asked me to call back on Monday. Starwood rep. said that it was showing correctly on that side but that we would need check with II. I hope that is the problem because I couldn't pull anything up for Maui this afternoon with my SMV week and was able to pull up about 20-30 listings for WKORN with my SDO and SVN.

Thanks for the heads up with this. Since I was working with this week already, I decided to book a reservation for President's week 2009 in a premium one-bedroom. They also had a two-bedroom available. I wonder if I should have booked that instead.

 

[DeniseM]

How early can I deposit my 2010 SDO week? I'm assuming I would have to pay the MF in advance?

 

[Gypsie]

I don't think you can bank it until next year. I just asked Starwood that question for myself and they advised me that I could only bank my 2009 week (which I did).

On another note, I just got a reply from redweek about the value allocated to my SMV premium bedroom-President's week reservation. They said it was worth 1700 points for a platinum week. They sent along a suggestion with the information to exchange it for an SDO week in October for 2000 points. In other words, buy an additional 300 points to exchange a platinum week for a gold week. I think it is pretty evident that the SDO is a stronger trader or that redweek thinks that I just fell off a turnip truck!

 

[chemteach]

I own winter season (Platinum) through the developer (148,000 SO's). I think I might give Starwood a call and see if is showing correctly with II. It seems like other owners have stronger exchange power with there's than I do. It doesn't make any sense.

When you search with your SMV II week, can you pick dates for your unit to search with? My WMH weeks just do a generic search unless I have an actual deposited week - they don't let me input a date for the week I'm searching with. I own other non-Starwood weeks that allow me to input an actual date for my week for the search.

Then generic weeks are much weaker than specific deposited weeks for WMH with II searches.

Good luck with your week!

 

[Gypsie]

Yes, that is exactly right. They are going in as generic weeks when I perform the search.

 

[GrayFal]

How early can I deposit my 2010 SDO week? I'm assuming I would have to pay the MF in advance?

Usually it is one year ahead - sometimes 13+ months with my Marriotts and with MAR I don't pay the MF before depsoiting - not required - but it is resort specific - the Royal Resort group in Mexico allows deposits at the 2 year mark.
I know I can reserve my deeded week at SBP at 24 months but know WHEN I can deposit. Call the II Starwood desk to ask them - I don't think the Starwood owner service people would give (or know) the correct II related answer.

 

[GrayFal]

When you search with your SMV II week, can you pick dates for your unit to search with? My WMH weeks just do a generic search unless I have an actual deposited week - they don't let me input a date for the week I'm searching with. I own other non-Starwood weeks that allow me to input an actual date for my week for the search.

Then generic weeks are much weaker than specific deposited weeks for WMH with II searches.

Good luck with your week!

That is interesting about the 'generic' search.... I wonder if when Starwood opens your II account, they 'code' it differently then when a resale owner just adds the weeks to their account or opens one on there own.

Yes, that is exactly right. They are going in as generic weeks when I perform the search.

Gypsie, are some of your weeks SVN and some resale??? Did you open the II account or did Starwood - and are all your weeks in the same II account?

And when you and chem are saying 'generic' - do u mean there is no actual date associated with the search week???
Because as we have clearly seen, the check-in date greatly influes what you can 'see' and exchange into with II.

 

[chemteach]

That is interesting about the 'generic' search.... I wonder if when Starwood opens your II account, they 'code' it differently then when a resale owner just adds the weeks to their account or opens one on there own.



Gypsie, are some of your weeks SVN and some resale??? Did you open the II account or did Starwood - and are all your weeks in the same II account?

And when you and chem are saying 'generic' - do u mean there is no actual date associated with the search week???
Because as we have clearly seen, the check-in date greatly influes what you can 'see' and exchange into with II.

I own a Starwood purchased week at WMH. When I search before deposting a week, I can click on "exchange," but no date is associated with the week. A few years back, I asked to deposit one side of my 2 BR lockout. They gave me President's week for my account. That week traded exceptionally well, far better than a "generic" week. The generic (no date) weeks trade much worse than a week with a Feb/March date - at least with WMH that is the case. I noticed a few years back that when someone posted (I think about a Harborside sighting) my units couldn't see Harborside, but WKV owners could. I was very disgruntled at the time. With WMH, you have to get a good deposited week to get a decent trader.

 

[GrayFal]

I own a Starwood purchased week at WMH. When I search before depositing a week, I can click on "exchange," but no date is associated with the week. A few years back, I asked to deposit one side of my 2 BR lockout. They gave me President's week for my account. That week traded exceptionally well, far better than a "generic" week. The generic (no date) weeks trade much worse than a week with a Feb/March date - at least with WMH that is the case. I noticed a few years back that when someone posted (I think about a Harborside sighting) my units couldn't see Harborside, but WKV owners could. I was very disgruntled at the time. With WMH, you have to get a good deposited week to get a decent trader.

It is as if Starwood is 'making' the II trade option unattractive - by listing your week as generic and making you believe the week will not trade well with II, it keeps those Starwood weeks in their 'system'.

No wonder many owners on this board post "do not deposit with II" - it is really a shame that the value of their ownership is diminished by Starwoods' "control" of their ownership .
I am not saying that SVN and internal reservations are bad - I think they ARE great - but not to the exclusion of other choices to the owner - YOU!
If you are constantly told by the developer that your week has no comparable value outside their own system, why would you think there is ?
Such a shame .....

 

[DeniseM]

Usually it is one year ahead - sometimes 13+ months with my Marriotts and with MAR I don't pay the MF before depsoiting - not required - but it is resort specific - the Royal Resort group in Mexico allows deposits at the 2 year mark.
I know I can reserve my deeded week at SBP at 24 months but know WHEN I can deposit. Call the II Starwood desk to ask them - I don't think the Starwood owner service people would give (or know) the correct II related answer.

Thanks Pat! - You continue to be a fount of information! What number do you call for the II Starwood desk?

 

[GrayFal]

Thanks Pat! - You continue to be a fount of information! What number do you call for the II Starwood desk?

Do you have other weeks in your II account?
I am automatically routed to the Marriott desk when I call, even if I am dealing with my other weeks - so whatever your first 'ownership' is - that seems to be where u go....but whoever u get, ask for the Starwood desk as u have Starwood related questions - also be CLEAR that you are asking questions about a non-SVN week hence not a 'bulk deposited' week by Starwood.
And if you happen to get a rep who knows what they are talking abut, get their extension and deal with that person.
They get 'credit' if they get people to deposit or extend or do a trade on the phone - so they should be happy :whoopie: to help you.

 

[DeniseM]

Hi Pat - I only have my Starwood II Acct., so I would have to set up a non-Starwood Acct. for my SDO Resale week.

THANKS!