[ July 2024 ] It's 112º right now at 5:00 pm

[rapmarks]

I don’t remember temperatures this high!

 

[Sugarcubesea]

They set a record there this week of 124º. Honestly, I'd reconsider, because September is hot, hot, hot here in CA.

@DeniseM , I can't reschedule as it's a family event I'm attending and I need to be in attendance.

 

[beejaybee]

Crazy temps in Europe too. 109F in Rome.
Last August temperatures in the Dordogne region where we were staying reached 106F. Our vrbo boasted air conditioning via water cooled flooring. While that may have been ideal for 80-degree temperatures, the floors became puddles during our stay until the owner shut off the system. Better weather prevailed over the next 10 days (Paris and a Rhine River cruise). We ended our trip with 8 days in Switzerland. 80+ during our stay in Wengen-for our hike on the Panorama trail from Mannlichen to Kleine Scheidegg at 7k elevation it was tank top and shorts for me.
Here in northern Ohio this summer, we've had many 90 degree and humid days interspersed with a few fantastically perfect days.

 

[rapmarks]

Crazy temps in Europe too. 109F in Rome.
Last August temperatures in the Dordogne region where we were staying reached 106F. Our vrbo boasted air conditioning via water cooled flooring. While that may have been ideal for 80-degree temperatures, the floors became puddles during our stay until the owner shut off the system. Better weather prevailed over the next 10 days (Paris and a Rhine River cruise). We ended our trip with 8 days in Switzerland. 80+ during our stay in Wengen-for our hike on the Panorama trail from Mannlichen to Kleine Scheidegg at 7k elevation it was tank top and shorts for me.
Here in northern Ohio this summer, we've had many 90 degree and humid days interspersed with a few fantastically perfect days.

My niece moved to Italy. From what I understand they do not have the energy utilities we have. Cooling doesn’t work as well and is very expensive and it has become very hot.

 

[jp10558]

~80s here in sourthern NY trending down towards 60 next friday if the weather reports are to be believed. Very humid, and wild temperature swings - "usually" we wouldn't have highs of only 60 in July. Then we've had a couple "heat domes" in the 90s. Luckily, AC works great.

 

[davidvel]

People who scoff at "dry heat" simply are ignorant of the difference. If you get out of the pool at 110 with under 15% humidity and a light breeze (commonplace in desert), you will get goosebumps and feel chilled for a few minutes.

In the desert your sweat instantly evaporates and cools you. In humidity you and your clothes are continuously drenched.

I'll take desert conditions over 80-90 with 40%+ humidity any day all day.

 

[Luanne]

We have been in the low to mid 80s with very low humidity. I feel lucky.

 

[Cornell]

@DeniseM I've always wondered - when you are in that climate can the AC "keep up"? Here in the midwest I feel like AC can not get as cool as we'd like when the temps are in the 90s but we have the entire humidity thing going on.

I was in our nation's capital last week . Temps in upper 90s. Heat index low 100s. I don't think I've ever been so miserable weather-wise. Actually put a damper on my trip.

 

[Passepartout]

We have been in the low to mid 80s with very low humidity. I feel lucky.

We are 10-12 degrees warmer than you, but you are 3,000 feet higher. The dry intermountain heat is sure more bearable than lower and further East.

 

[dioxide45]

People who scoff at "dry heat" simply are ignorant of the difference. If you get out of the pool at 110 with under 15% humidity and a light breeze (commonplace in desert), you will get goosebumps and feel chilled for a few minutes.

In the desert your sweat instantly evaporates and cools you. In humidity you and your clothes are continuously drenched.

I'll take desert conditions over 80-90 with 40%+ humidity any day all day.

Anyone would take 80-90 degrees. Even in Florida with humidity, 80-90 isn't that bad. The question is, what would you rather have 110 with low humidity or 110 with high humidity? For us personally, we leave leave Florida for the desert in the summer. We actually prefer the dry heat.

 

[callwill]

It's a pleasant 70 °F in Ocean Hills, CA right now.

Still a bit too warm especially if the air is muggy...

 

[jp10558]

@DeniseM I've always wondered - when you are in that climate can the AC "keep up"? Here in the midwest I feel like AC can not get as cool as we'd like when the temps are in the 90s but we have the entire humidity thing going on.

I was in our nation's capital last week . Temps in upper 90s. Heat index low 100s. I don't think I've ever been so miserable weather-wise. Actually put a damper on my trip.

IDK about the environment, or DeniseM - but ACs are sized to what they "can handle", but I'll also say most are well over-sized actually. The main issue I've personally experienced with every AC is the temp sensor and / or cycle is ... really bad. For Window ones they're reading the temp AT THE WINDOW, not in the middle of the room. This usually is more of a problem when you want it below 75 in the room and it's less than 80 outside.

For whole house ACs, it's the issue of one sampling point that somehow seems to never really sync with what you're feeling at any location in the house.

Multizone minisplits or better heatpumps are probably close to the best except (for me) they gimp the temp setting programming, bottoming out at 60 or 61 degrees. But having multiple zones means you can have more custom temp management per room or group of rooms. I.e. the temp the AC thinks it is is closer to the temp you think it is.

I suppose if you have a badly insulated 40x40 room or something and insist on putting in a $150 5000 BTU you might have issues at 110. But from what I understand, ACs won't have that much problem with heats we're seeing yet (and IDK at what point the heat would get too hot, vs maybe just adding heat back in to the room faster than the AC can take it out) - it's more around freezing. The temp differentials with the refrigerants are kind of amazing, per youtube.

We've had no issues maintaining 75ish in 96+ degree humid weather with a 8,000 BTU window air conditioner here in NY in a large 40x20 room with single pane picture window and not the best insulation. So I'd expect keeping up probably isn't that much of an issue.

 

[callwill]

People who scoff at "dry heat" simply are ignorant of the difference. If you get out of the pool at 110 with under 15% humidity and a light breeze (commonplace in desert), you will get goosebumps and feel chilled for a few minutes.

In the desert your sweat instantly evaporates and cools you. In humidity you and your clothes are continuously drenched.

I'll take desert conditions over 80-90 with 40%+ humidity any day all day.

Id love some chills right now. its in the low 80s and a bit muggy here in WNY.

 

[callwill]

IDK about the environment, or DeniseM - but ACs are sized to what they "can handle", but I'll also say most are well over-sized actually. The main issue I've personally experienced with every AC is the temp sensor and / or cycle is ... really bad. For Window ones they're reading the temp AT THE WINDOW, not in the middle of the room. This usually is more of a problem when you want it below 75 in the room and it's less than 80 outside.

For whole house ACs, it's the issue of one sampling point that somehow seems to never really sync with what you're feeling at any location in the house.

Multizone minisplits or better heatpumps are probably close to the best except (for me) they gimp the temp setting programming, bottoming out at 60 or 61 degrees. But having multiple zones means you can have more custom temp management per room or group of rooms. I.e. the temp the AC thinks it is is closer to the temp you think it is.

I suppose if you have a badly insulated 40x40 room or something and insist on putting in a $150 5000 BTU you might have issues at 110. But from what I understand, ACs won't have that much problem with heats we're seeing yet (and IDK at what point the heat would get too hot, vs maybe just adding heat back in to the room faster than the AC can take it out) - it's more around freezing. The temp differentials with the refrigerants are kind of amazing, per youtube.

We've had no issues maintaining 75ish in 96+ degree humid weather with a 8,000 BTU window air conditioner here in NY in a large 40x20 room with single pane picture window and not the best insulation. So I'd expect keeping up probably isn't that much of an issue.

I also think that when they went to higher efficiency AC units, they cut out some of the ability to remove moisture from the air. The air is cooler, but not as dry.

 

[jp10558]

I also think that when they went to higher efficiency AC units, they cut out some of the ability to remove moisture from the air. The air is cooler, but not as dry.

The solution to that I guess would be dehumidifiers. The amount of humidity removed also really depends on the setup.

 

[BJRSanDiego]

They set a record there this week of 124º. Honestly, I'd reconsider, because September is hot, hot, hot here in CA.

Two years ago when we were in Palm Desert, it got to 122. The ice machines at the pool could not get the water to freeze - - only cool water came out. We did a lot of pool soaking time.

 

[davidvel]

I also think that when they went to higher efficiency AC units, they cut out some of the ability to remove moisture from the air. The air is cooler, but not as dry.

Not true. It is physics, not part of the AC. When you cool air, moisture necessarily condenses out.

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

In the desert your sweat instantly evaporates and cools you. In humidity you and your clothes are continuously drenched.

Actually, what happens is that most of your cooling happens in your lungs. You breathe in that dry desert air, and humidify it in your lungs. You get the same amount of cooling as if you had sweat the same amount of water. But cooling in the lungs is more efficient because it directly cools your blood, and the blood carries the cooling through out your body.

That lack of sweat is what often fools people in desert climates. Because they are not sweating, or sweating only very little, they don't realize how much water they are actually losing, and they become dehydrated. That's why tracking your peeing is important. If you are not peeing, that means your body is conserving water.

 

[BJRSanDiego]

Wow, way too hot for me. I would sit in the A/C and look out the window.

I just found out today my daughter accepted a job in California. The movers pick up her stuff on the 17th. She chose an apartment sight unseen but it looks nice. It's just outside Temecula. So we'll be stopping in California when we return to the mainland in Five years.

80 here right now at 2pm.

I live about 25 miles south of Temecula. Temecula is a nice town. Most of it is very newly built. Lots of good restaurants, shopping, etc. As others have said, it is a great wine area with its own AVA. The wines have steadily improved as the vines mature and the winemakers get more experience with the terroir and their grapes.

The location is pretty nice. It's 1-1/4 to 1-1/2 hours to downtown San Diego/the Bay, and to Marriott Newport Coast, and to Palm Desert.

 

[slip]

I live about 25 miles south of Temecula. Temecula is a nice town. Most of it is very newly built. Lots of good restaurants, shopping, etc. As others have said, it is a great wine area with its own AVA. The wines have steadily improved as the vines mature and the winemakers get more experience with the terroir and their grapes.

The location is pretty nice. It's 1-1/4 to 1-1/2 hours to downtown San Diego/the Bay, and to Marriott Newport Coast, and to Palm Desert.

Thanks for the information. She has always wanted to try living in California. She seems to move every five to seven years.

 

[DrQ]

The party is all men - standing out on the driveway, beer in hand, where it is probably cooler. Either this is a guy party, or all the women went into the house. Maybe a bachelor parth?

 

[Luanne]

Anyone would take 80-90 degrees. Even in Florida with humidity, 80-90 isn't that bad. The question is, what would you rather have 110 with low humidity or 110 with high humidity? For us personally, we leave leave Florida for the desert in the summer. We actually prefer the dry heat.

My bff lives in Florida, moved there from California. She has been miserable with the heat and humidity this year. She said there was one day when the humidity was higher than the temperature.

 

[PigsDad]

She said there was one day when the humidity was higher than the temperature.

Ummm... that happens all the time. The definition of the dew point is the point where there is 100% humidity, and during a period of high humidity, that happens every day as the temp cools down. Also, a rainy day? Most likely the humidity is at or near 100%.

Kurt

 

[DeniseM]

Right now, our humidity in Northern, CA is 17% and the dew point is [54º] - I'm assuming that's low. At our home in Reno, which is even drier, the humidity is 9% and the dew point is [32º]. I have to work at keeping my skin moisturized when we are there - especially my hands. Because of the dry air in Reno, I frequently get shocked when I touch something metal with a bare hand or walk barefoot on the carpet. If you make the bed in the dark and billow out the sheet, it creates a light show.

 

[dioxide45]

Right now, our humidity in Northern, CA is 17% and the dew point is 54% - I'm assuming that's low. At our home in Reno, which is even drier, the humidity is 9% and the dew point is 32%. I have to work at keeping my skin moisturized when we are there - especially my hands. Because of the dry air in Reno, I frequently get shocked when I touch something metal with a bare hand or walk barefoot on the carpet. If you make the bed in the dark and billow out the sheet, it creates a light show.

Dew point is usually a temperature. It is the temp at which it needs to be for the air to be saturated with water vapor and a relative humidity of 100%. Usually means it would get foggy. So I suspect you meant 54 degrees? That is quite low and unlikely to be reached in your situation.