Introducing WYNDHAM Club Pass

[ronparise]

After reading and rereading the announcement and FAQ, I see this entirely different...

I don't see this effecting any of the Wyndham/Worldmark interexchange at all... and also explains why Shell is not included as it is today...

I think this is just a way of letting Wyndham Club member use their points to exchange directly into 55 resorts in the Wyndham Hotel chain and/or their rental group that manage units at various locations.
It is new because presently you would have to convert your Wyndham Club points to Wyndham Rewards points to exchange into the Wyndham hotel chain.

No changes to what we have now... just a new feature to open up some of the Wyndham Hotel chain and previous "rental only" units, to the vacation group in a seamless way...

Just my read.... let me know what you think...

Pete

Sorry I don't see that the hotels were mentioned at all. This seems to me to be all timeshare. Wyndham and Worldmark for now but I bet Shell will come in later

 

[lcml11]

Sorry I don't see that the hotels were mentioned at all. This seems to me to be all timeshare. Wyndham and Worldmark for now but I bet Shell will come in later

Per Wyndham Owner Care, the pass program is just a discount program for services at the resorts. Smuglers Notch is the only one in the program at this time, however there are plans to expand this program system wide. She confirmed it will be made available to Wyndham club plus members.

Reservations did not know this program but thought it might be a program coming up for Club Wyndham Access Members.

Still checking.

Tried the VIP line, was advised it is no longer seperate, it is just the regular reservation people. No help here.


WYNDHAM CLUB PASS
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Just found someone in Wyndham Corporate that has heard of the program. It is being set up as a seperate group and is under the Wyndham Hotel empire.

 

[timeos2]

Developer credits and points only ... nice touch.

And another $99 fee .... so, it is under $100 in costs - free membership for the people who already spent $15,000-150,000 for their point or credit ownership. At least Wyndham KNOWS they have the money (or did have the money. :ignore.

Shell owners - not yet. But are the Shell units in the pot?

Can my PIC points be used - as developer counted points?

Can't rent these new reservations --- I like going to new places --- why would I rent them?

The FAQ state that all OWNERS of Club / Club Points will be automatically in. That doesn't differentiate on how you became an owner. Am I reading it wrong?

In any case it certainly doesn't impact the ability of Wyndham Points owners - resale or retail - to use their points at any Wyndham Points resort. At worst it means they don't get the ADDITIONAL access to the Worldmark resorts that a retail buyer would (but, like VIP, the cost difference in retail vs resale doesn't make those additional few resorts / trades a good value - you are better off buying some Worldmark also resale). Saying this s limiting resale buyers to their HOME RESORT as has been reported about some sales weasels is a twisting of the facts. In fact they may be limited to their home SYSTEM - a completely different, and unchanged, thing. As usual it appears to be largely smoke and mirrors to confuse buyers / owners and make it seem that somehow overpriced retail points are somehow a better value than resale when in fact that is never likely to happen. Certainly not from this announcement or the existing VIP perk nonsense.

It also reenforces the fact that unless you are really gung ho on Wyndham and or Worldmark it makes more and more sense to rent them rather than own them for the truly best return on the dollar spent in those systems. Let the owners of the system do the work & figure it all out. As a renter you don't care if an out of system reservation can be rented or not (the FAQ's say no) you can just rent, usually at a significant discount, from whichever side has the resort you want. Easy. Meanwhile ownership just gets more convoluted and costly. Renting may be the best route for most now.

 

[siesta]

The FAQ state that all OWNERS of Club / Club Points will be automatically in. That doesn't differentiate on how you became an owner. Am I reading it wrong?

From the FAQ:

6. Will there be guidelines when exchanging between an individual’s home Club and resorts in the WYNDHAM Club Pass program?

Yes. Owners who would like to make an exchange outside of their home Club may do so by using their developer purchased credits/points.

 

[ronparise]

Per Wyndham Owner Care, the pass program is just a discount program for services at the resorts. Smuglers Notch is the only one in the program at this time, however there are plans to expand this program system wide. She confirmed it will be made available to Wyndham club plus members.

Reservations did not know this program but thought it might be a program coming up for Club Wyndham Access Members.

Still checking.

Tried the VIP line, was advised it is no longer seperate, it is just the regular reservation people. No help here.


WYNDHAM CLUB PASS
By: Wyndham Hotels and Resorts, LLC

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22 Sylvan Way , Parsippany, NJ, 07054

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Just found someone in Wyndham Corporate that has heard of the program. It is being set up as a seperate group and is under the Wyndham Hotel empire.

The may be a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. In this case if the poster is correct Wyndham hotels doesn't know that Wyndham timeshares is using the same name for their program

What we are talking about is a simple in house exchange program for Wordmark and Club Wyndham owners From the announcements on the two websites (Wyndham and Worldmark) there is nothing that involves the hotels

 

[CO skier]

Per Wyndham Owner Care, the pass program is just a discount program for services at the resorts. Smuglers Notch is the only one in the program at this time, ...

That would be the SmuggsPass, not the Wyndham Club Pass:

"SmuggsPass

As a CLUB WYNDHAM owner reserving your Smugglers' home through the Wyndham reservation system using your own points, you will receive a complimentary, non-transferable SmuggsPass gaining you access to Smugglers’ programs and facilities as well as a number of discounts. See below for more details. Guests using your CLUB WYNDHAM points may access Smugglers' programs and facilities under the same terms and conditions as the general public."


http://www.smuggs.com/pages/universal/wyndham/


Wyndham HQ appears to be suffering from mass "Pass" confusion.

 

[snickers104]

It would seem to me if Wyndham limits points resale owners to their home resorts that the whole system and the trust would come crashing down. Just my opinion.


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[carl2591]

Wyndham Resort Maintenance Fees

The FAQ state that all OWNERS of Club / Club Points will be automatically in. That doesn't differentiate on how you became an owner. Am I reading it wrong?

In any case it certainly doesn't impact the ability of Wyndham Points owners - resale or retail - to use their points at any Wyndham Points resort. At worst it means they don't get the ADDITIONAL access to the Worldmark resorts that a retail buyer would (but, like VIP, the cost difference in retail vs resale doesn't make those additional few resorts / trades a good value - you are better off buying some Worldmark also resale). Saying this s limiting resale buyers to their HOME RESORT as has been reported about some sales weasels is a twisting of the facts. In fact they may be limited to their home SYSTEM - a completely different, and unchanged, thing. As usual it appears to be largely smoke and mirrors to confuse buyers / owners and make it seem that somehow overpriced retail points are somehow a better value than resale when in fact that is never likely to happen. Certainly not from this announcement or the existing VIP perk nonsense.

It also reenforces the fact that unless you are really gung ho on Wyndham and or Worldmark it makes more and more sense to rent them rather than own them for the truly best return on the dollar spent in those systems. Let the owners of the system do the work & figure it all out. As a renter you don't care if an out of system reservation can be rented or not (the FAQ's say no) you can just rent, usually at a significant discount, from whichever side has the resort you want. Easy. Meanwhile ownership just gets more convoluted and costly. Renting may be the best route for most now.

just another reason to avoid Wyndham in my book.. The more they try to weasel out of allowing owners to use points, no matter where they come from, the more is see them as the enemy. Too bad the higher up's are so self centered and morally corrupt. This could truly be a must have timeshare unit no matter how you got them.. Every day some poor fool signs up for a 25K unit that they have to give away some 5 or so years later for pennies on the dollar.

All wyndham should be worried about is the paying of MF's by owners, not how to screw the owner every day.. dam shame

 

[siesta]

The sky is not falling, the point system will work as before. Now, if you want to use your points across system, it will be a developer perk, and you pay an exchange fee too. Considering wyndham owners far outnumber worldmark owners, and the fact that this window is 9 months as opposed to 10 month window within your system, I doubt we will see any difference in prime inventory. the fact is, as a wyndham owner, if I want a prime week, lets say holiday week, I would book 10 months anyways to ensure availability from whatever is left after ARP, a worldmark owner cant take that away from me.

 

[vacationhopeful]

I guess they are trying to segregate the Resale owners to using their points only at their HOME RESORT --- good thing I like my Home Resorts and book at the 13 month ARP window. And if they wait too long, the under utilized resorts and lowest occupancy seasons will be the leftover available.

I guess I will be camping out in the winter at Kingsgate and Seawatch using my Resort Specials discounts ... they have indoor pools and I will just add a plastic palm tree.

Okay, been reading all the other opinions as to people's interpretations of this informative Wyndham "Press Release" (not!).

I don't know if they are going to be able to obtain an ABSOLUTE swap of Worldmark points and Wyndham points - after all these are separate and distinct points systems with no currency exchange factor. Then, later add in the Shell points system.

Are they trying to create a benefit for the Developer purchase points? Definitely.
Are they trying to get more money out of people for this exchange? Yes.
Can the Affiliated Resorts and their LIMITED inventory survive? Mostly not.
Will you have to do this with a phone call? In the old computer system -yes. Also, WHERE is this inventory going to be retrieved from: a joint phone call to Worldmark phone system or eventually, the Shell desk? Or is Inventory going to be added under the "new" 55 resorts catagories?

OR: Will the affiliated resorts simply become the category with MORE resorts and more inventory that is LOADED up during an overnight SWAP (between the 2 or 3 systems) and those RESORTs will always require a "inter system" booking fee of the suggested (to start) price of $99.

As the window is at the 9 month out mark, this eliminates the biggest distinction between CWP and CWA.

Now the NEXT (technical) ISSUE: Developer brought points and resale acquired points for accounting and usage. And then the cancelled point categories. I am NOT going to even suggest (nor would I recommend any knowledge persons get into) doing Corporate Wyndham's system analyst issue.

 

[timeos2]

It would seem to me if Wyndham limits points resale owners to their home resorts that the whole system and the trust would come crashing down. Just my opinion.


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Despite the great desires of the drooling Weasels Wyndham can never change the rights of Wyndham Points owners to use the points system - they cannot force them to use of only their home base resort. They can use intimidation and misrepresentation to try to talk people into expensive and unnecessary purchases of retail points but as an informed buyer you can easily avoid that trap.

The very basis of the Trust and membership in it is the right to use multiple resorts. They can never undo that.

 

[timeos2]

just another reason to avoid Wyndham in my book.. The more they try to weasel out of allowing owners to use points, no matter where they come from, the more is see them as the enemy. Too bad the higher up's are so self centered and morally corrupt. This could truly be a must have timeshare unit no matter how you got them.. Every day some poor fool signs up for a 25K unit that they have to give away some 5 or so years later for pennies on the dollar.

All wyndham should be worried about is the paying of MF's by owners, not how to screw the owner every day.. dam shame

Sadly it does appear that it makes more and more sense to avoid the very good value of resale Wyndham - much like avoiding even the nice looking Wastegate resorts - as they continue to do everything they can to degrade the very product they sell at outrageous prices. How much better it would be if they would take steps to INCREASE resale values so they are much closer to retail THEN add a few perks to make even the incremental cost of retail have a true value and then everyone would win!

But the short sighted, make mine now and scorched earth policies of Wyndham higher ups seems unable to do anything to benefit owners while continually lining their pockets based on lies, misrepresentations and valueless perks they dream up to attempt to give retail purchase a value they don't have and will be worthless on resale due to the very policies they tout as a reason to buy!

Except for our friends that are mega-renters buying or owning Wyndham today is no longer the great value it has been. Now it is far easier and much less expensive to get the Wyndham / Worldmark's you want using readily available rentals. Look elsewhere for any ownerships you care to commit to.

 

[Joe33426]

Despite the great desires of the drooling Weasels Wyndham can never change the rights of Wyndham Points owners to use the points system - they cannot force them to use of only their home base resort. They can use intimidation and misrepresentation to try to talk people into expensive and unnecessary purchases of retail points but as an informed buyer you can easily avoid that trap.

The very basis of the Trust and membership in it is the right to use multiple resorts. They can never undo that.

I so hope that this is correct, otherwise, I just bought a whole lot a crap.

I've read and re-read the plan documents and I just don't know. I'm not an attorney, but it seems like WYN has a lot of power to change just about anything from what I read. Probably the thing holding them back is a class action lawsuit from resale point owners. It would interesting to know the allocation of resale points versus developer points in the system.

 

[learnalot]

I so hope that this is correct, otherwise, I just bought a whole lot a crap.

I've read and re-read the plan documents and I just don't know. I'm not an attorney, but it seems like WYN has a lot of power to change just about anything from what I read. Probably the thing holding them back is a class action lawsuit from resale point owners. It would interesting to know the allocation of resale points versus developer points in the system.

I disagree that they are holding back for fear of a lawsuit from resale owners. I think, as others have stated, that the thing that is holding them back is that the ability to use points for internal bookings is the essence of the system and to pull those points out of the trust would be to derail it. But they CAN add additional perks to developer only points to try and encourage developer purchases without destabilizing the whole system. I think that is all (if anything) that is happening here.

 

[Joe33426]

I disagree that they are holding back for fear of a lawsuit from resale owners. I think, as others have stated, that the thing that is holding them back is that the ability to use points for internal bookings is the essence of the system and to pull those points out of the trust would be to derail it. But they CAN add additional perks to developer only points to try and encourage developer purchases without destabilizing the whole system. I think that is all (if anything) that is happening here.

I'm not too worried about this Club Pass really changing anything for me. My vacation time is determined years in advance and I can definitely book at 10 months out.

It's just that I'm curious about statements that the trust plan wouldn't allow Wyndham the right to restrict resale points to just home resorts. Because everything I read suggests that Wyndham could do whatever the heck they want. They control the trust, they control the HOAs, so if there something they don't like, just amend the documents. They really don't even need to do that, because the current plan says that the directory is more important than the plan. So all they have to do is change the directory.

Just because the decision would "derail" or mess up the system doesn't mean that they couldn't or won't. Other major companies make stupid decisions too...

 

[timeos2]

I'm not too worried about this Club Pass really changing anything for me. My vacation time is determined years in advance and I can definitely book at 10 months out.

It's just that I'm curious about statements that the trust plan wouldn't allow Wyndham the right to restrict resale points to just home resorts. Because everything I read suggests that Wyndham could do whatever the heck they want. They control the trust, they control the HOAs, so if there something they don't like, just amend the documents. They really don't even need to do that, because the current plan says that the directory is more important than the plan. So all they have to do is change the directory.

Just because the decision would "derail" or mess up the system doesn't mean that they couldn't or won't. Other major companies make stupid decisions too...

It's not a matter of stupid decisions or intent. It cannot be done as the very basis of the sales and the trust IS the use of points. Those that bought in under the sales disclosures filed by Wyndham (that's every retail sale ever made and by extension every resale as the base rights are exactly what is transferred in a resale) can never be told "you can only use your points for your home resort" (or any other change that impacts the base rights of ownership as in the disclosure). If there's one ting you can depend on as an owner of UDI Wyndham Points it is that you will always have the right to use your points for any Wyndham Points based resort. That cannot go away and any hint that it can be done is a blatant lie by your friendly Wyndham Weasel. Certainly not unheard of but never factual. Rest easy regarding the ability to always having the right to use your points to reserve Wyndham resorts.

 

[learnalot]

I'm not too worried about this Club Pass really changing anything for me. My vacation time is determined years in advance and I can definitely book at 10 months out.

It's just that I'm curious about statements that the trust plan wouldn't allow Wyndham the right to restrict resale points to just home resorts. Because everything I read suggests that Wyndham could do whatever the heck they want. They control the trust, they control the HOAs, so if there something they don't like, just amend the documents. They really don't even need to do that, because the current plan says that the directory is more important than the plan. So all they have to do is change the directory.

Just because the decision would "derail" or mess up the system doesn't mean that they couldn't or won't. Other major companies make stupid decisions too...

Fair enough, but I don't see them destabilizing their points based system for a number of reasons. The points based flexibility is the essence of their system. It runs because everyone's points are enrolled into the club system (trust). There are fees involved which are rolled into the maintenance fees, but which represent significant revenue for Wyndham. I was looking for the figures from last year. I didn't find them, although I know I have seen them, but I did find this from their 2012 annual report to the shareholders (VOI stands for Vacation Ownership Interests):

Our brands operate vacation ownership programs through which VOIs can be redeemed for vacations through points- or credits-based internal reservation systems that provide owners with flexibility as to resort location, length of stay, unit type and time of year. The reservation systems offer owners redemption opportunities for other travel and leisure products that may be offered from time to time, and the opportunity for owners to use our products for one or more vacations per year. Our programs allow us to market and sell our vacation ownership products in variable quantities and to offer to existing owners "upgrade" sales to supplement such owners' existing VOIs. This contrasts with the fixed quantity of the traditional fixed-week vacation ownership, which is primarily sold on a weekly interval basis. p. 20 (p. 21 in the PDF)

Later on the same page:

Club Wyndham uses a points-based internal reservation system called Club Wyndham Plus to provide owners with flexibility as to resort location, length of stay, unit type and time of year. With the launch of the Club Wyndham Plus trust in 1991, Wyndham Vacation Ownership became one of the first U.S. developers of vacation ownership properties to move from traditional, fixed-week vacation ownership to a points-based program. Both Club Wyndham Select and Club Wyndham Access utilize Club Wyndham Plus as the internal exchange program to expand owners' vacation options. Owners who participate in Club Wyndham Plus assign their use rights to a trust in exchange for the right to reserve in the internal reservation system. The number of points that an owner receives as a result of the assignment to the trust of the owner's use rights, and the number of points required to take a particular vacation, is set forth
on a published schedule and varies depending on the resort location, length of stay, unit type and time of year associated with the interests assigned to the trust or requested by the owner, as applicable. Participants in Club Wyndham Plus may choose the Club Wyndham resort properties, length of stay, unit types and times of year, depending on the number of points to which they are entitled and the number of points required to take the vacations of their preference. Participants may redeem their points not only for resort stays, but also for other travel and leisure products that may be offered from time to time. Owners of vacation points are able to borrow vacation points from the next year.

As I said, the points based trust IS the very essence of their system. They will not jeopardize the functionality of that basic structure by attempting to segregate the points. But the Wyndham Pass stuff, including restricting access to the Wyndham Pass inventory to developer purchased points, is consistent with their move toward increased use of a fee for service model. From page 3 of the annual report (bolding added):

Our mission is to increase shareholder value by being the leader in travel accommodations and welcoming our guests to iconic brands and vacation destinations through our signature “Count On Me!” service. Our strategies to achieve these objectives are to:
• Increase market share by delivering exceptional customer service;
• Grow cash flow and operating margins through superior execution in all of our businesses;
• Rebalance the Wyndham Worldwide portfolio to emphasize our fee-for-service business models;
• Attract, retain and develop human capital across our organization; and
• Support and promote Wyndham Green and Wyndham Diversity initiatives.

 

[massvacationer]

IMHO

This is a just an additional exchange feature - much like the ability to use RCI, that we all now have.

It will not affect owners current use rights and ability to reserve within their own systems (Club Wyndham or Worldmark)

I think we are making bid deal out of nothing.

So what if it is only to be used by retail buyers ? - it sounds like a marginal benefit anyway.

 

[ronparise]

IMHO

This is a just an additional exchange feature - much like the ability to use RCI, that we all now have.

It will not affect owners current use rights and ability to reserve within their own systems (Club Wyndham or Worldmark)

I think we are making bid deal out of nothing.

So what if it is only to be used by retail buyers ? - it sounds like a marginal benefit anyway.

Exactly right

 

[learnalot]

IMHO

This is a just an additional exchange feature - much like the ability to use RCI, that we all now have.

It will not affect owners current use rights and ability to reserve within their own systems (Club Wyndham or Worldmark)

I think we are making bid deal out of nothing.

So what if it is only to be used by retail buyers ? - it sounds like a marginal benefit anyway.

I agree that it is essentially a non-event, as I wrote in post #39:

...they CAN add additional perks to developer only points to try and encourage developer purchases without destabilizing the whole system. I think that is all (if anything) that is happening here.

The post I wrote after that (42) quoting the annual report was just to back that up with something more than my opinion - for those who still seemed to believe that the sky might be falling.

 

[PeterS]

Sorry I don't see that the hotels were mentioned at all. This seems to me to be all timeshare. Wyndham and Worldmark for now but I bet Shell will come in later

I keep getting caught up on the line...

"Essentially, it will give CLUB WYNDHAM owners seamless access to more than 55 Wyndham resorts, expanding your ability to travel to unique destinations across the country."

What are the 55 Wyndham Resorts? If they are not Club Wyndham or Worldmark (they got a similiar notice)?

I did a search on the Wyndham Resorts and got a hit on Wyndham hotels... they have a series of resorts that neither Club Wyndham or Worldmark can get access to directly with their points...

I agree this is probably a big non event as I don't think it will change what we have already but it would be great for their sales arm to be able to include some of the resorts in the Wyndham hotel chain...

My main idea is to figure out the 55 resorts...

If Club Wyndham and Worldmark owners (who presently can interchange) are both being promised 55 new resorts to exchange into, and Shell isn't included... where do the 55 resorts come from if not from the Wyndham hotel group?

Pete

 

[vacationhopeful]

...If Club Wyndham and Worldmark owners (who presently can interchange) are both being promised 55 new resorts to exchange into, and Shell isn't included... where do the 55 resorts come from if not from the Wyndham hotel group?

Pete

Not all Worldmark resorts are "affiliated resorts" with CWP/CWA booking access. And vice versa. That is where the magically 55 resort number comes from.

 

[kwindham]

I guess they are trying to segregate the Resale owners to using their points only at their HOME RESORT --- good thing I like my Home Resorts and book at the 13 month ARP window. And if they wait too long, the under utilized resorts and lowest occupancy seasons will be the leftover available.

I guess I will be camping out in the winter at Kingsgate and Seawatch using my Resort Specials discounts ... they have indoor pools and I will just add a plastic palm tree.

The visual that pops into my head is to funny!!!

:rofl::hysterical::rofl::hysterical::rofl:

 

[vacationhopeful]

The visual that pops into my head is to funny!!!

:rofl::hysterical::rofl::hysterical::rofl:

A blow up plastic palm tree!

 

[rhonda]

I think we are making bid deal out of nothing.

Except, perhaps, for worry over losing features I already have?

As a WM owner, I've been enjoying reservations at Wyndham Pagosa for an annual event. My travel dates require a Thursday check-in with Monday departure -- easily booked through WM but not so easily booked through RCI. I've been fortunate these past two years to snag the reservation using WM Monday Madness, paying cash rates not spending WM credits.

It sounds like the new Pass might (just might) replace my affiliated booking process with a more expensive, possibly less flexible, exchange process. Oh well, timeshare giveth and timeshare taketh away, I suppose.