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II 2025 update - all bad news

Danlop88 said:
Got it, so someone from Facebook said OL was a good trader and very cheap, many people bought it and started trading. This cause Interval to update their systems accordingly
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Careful with the correlation to the FB group, it would only take a summer intern or analytics bot to spot over performing traders in II's data. The fact that other resorts and brands got trimmed too indicates there's a bit more too it than blaming one individual. Same as it's not likely to be Scoops fault that Hyatt got trimmed from an exceptional to a good trader.
 
dioxide45 said:
This could be a good thing. But we need much more info about it. How much more will it cost? Only certain destinations. Will the nonrefundable still be available?
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Yes, I agree we'll have to wait and see.

Getaway prices are much higher compared to years ago. A possible refund or credit is a step in the right direction vs no refund at all.
But this first step may go unnoticed if the refund details are only revealed during the confirmation booking process.
 
alwysonvac said:
Yes, I agree we'll have to wait and see.

Getaway prices are much higher compared to years ago. A possible refund or credit is a step in the right direction vs no refund at all.
But this first step may go unnoticed if the refund details are only revealed during the confirmation booking process.
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I expect a refundable Getaway will be priced higher than current non-refundable Getaways.

There's not enough competition in the exchange business to drive lower costs or added 'no cost' benefits for the customer.
 
b2bailey said:
I currently have a deposit that is subject to 60 day exchange window.
It was the result of a cancelled exchange.
Will this now have a 30 day window? (I hope not.)
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The new cancellation rules take effect July 1, 2025. Most times when they make changes, it applies to transactions completed after the effective date so odds are they won't change yours but who knows for sure. We'll know more when they make the Flexchange shift later this summer.
 
gravityrules said:
I expect a refundable Getaway will be priced higher than current non-refundable Getaways.

There's not enough competition in the exchange business to drive lower costs or added 'no cost' benefits for the customer.
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Yup, similar to buying cancel for any reason insurance which cost extra.
 
I’m not sure if anyone noticed but the exchange fee for Marriott to Marriott exchanges is now 199. I believe it was just 164 previously so that’s quite the bump.
 
travelhacker said:
I’m not sure if anyone noticed but the exchange fee for Marriott to Marriott exchanges is now 199. I believe it was just 164 previously so that’s quite the bump.
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When did this change?
 
Hindsite said:
Careful with the correlation to the FB group, it would only take a summer intern or analytics bot to spot over performing traders in II's data. The fact that other resorts and brands got trimmed too indicates there's a bit more too it than blaming one individual. Same as it's not likely to be Scoops fault that Hyatt got trimmed from an exceptional to a good trader.
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Which FB Group in particular? You can PM if necessary?
 
Hindsite said:
Careful with the correlation to the FB group, it would only take a summer intern or analytics bot to spot over performing traders in II's data. The fact that other resorts and brands got trimmed too indicates there's a bit more too it than blaming one individual. Same as it's not likely to be Scoops fault that Hyatt got trimmed from an exceptional to a good trader.
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I agree. Also, Interval International could choose to drop these over-performing resorts if they want to.
 
It's a good reminder to us all that Marriott is a for-profit business with shareholders that expect revenue to grow significantly every quarter. When they don't reach their sales profitability goals like in the current environment, they need to find other sources to drive growth. They likely looked at RCI and said hey, all of our fees are lower than theirs so we can squeeze more out of our II members and still be a better value.

The one area that RCI has II beat is with its Extra Vacations (equivalent to Getaways). You can put them on hold until the end of the next business day, cancel for a full refund within 24 hours of booking and get a partial refund based upon a tiered schedule that gets lower as the check-in date of the reservation draws closer. All of it is so much better than II's method of book it and it's final, period. II is likely coming up with these refundable Getaways to try and compete in that area a bit more, again to drive revenue.
 
billymach4 said:
But not if your week is enrolled deposited by and covered Abound/Destination Club?
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It’s not because the week was purchased after 2010. I would need to make a substantial purchase directly from Marriott to change this.
 
LAX Mom said:
What is an OL studio?
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I have never been there and never plan to go there. The studio is like a motel on the beach in a very good location (Cocoa Beach). Good management because they managed to keep maint. fee in the $300 range for years. Picked up mine for free on TUG. I will probably keep because it draws Vegas and San Diego area. I have stayed at Koolina MKO many, many times with it. I live up the highway from there. There is a TUG member that lived at MKO for months during COVID. They kept the resort open on a skeleton crew so they could say they were open but almost nobody could get here. This is when I got the 3 bedroom PH with a OL studio.
 
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