How does a timeshare save me money?

[DeniseM]

By contrast, we never spend more than $1000 per trip. My girlfriend gambles, but nothing hard core and no one every comps her anything. People like my girlfriend who spend a little bit far outweigh people like you who get comped all of the time.

Spending $1,000 per trip and gambling $1,000 per trip, are two completely different things. If you are gambling $1,000 per trip you should get some freebies, at least at the smaller casinos. Does your girlfriend always sign up for and use a player's card?

Boy is this thread off track! :rofl:

 

[shifty1981]

Please explain. Are you saying Trinidad will buy your timeshare if you agree to a lease term no matter what the timeshare?

Save this to point to next time somebody trots out that chestnut about Orlando timeshares being notorious for high maintenance fees.

That factoid (a) ain't necessarily so & (b) depends very much on which Orlando timeshare(s) you mean. (Some timeshare HOAs in Orlando run tighter ships than others.)

As to selling off Horseshoe Bend, Arkansas -- who in his or her right mind would want it ?

I'm thinking deedback, in conjunction with signing up for a 3-year (renewable) points-timeshare lease at Club Trinidad out in California (if they're still offering those) -- easiest exit strategy in all of timesharing.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 

[AwayWeGo]

Even Simpler Than That.

Are you saying Trinidad will buy your timeshare if you agree to a lease term no matter what the timeshare?

Club Trinidad for a while (& maybe still, I don't know) was offering 3-year (renewable) RTU points-timeshare leases. They work the same as deeded points-timeshares within the RCI Points system, except they're leased rather than owned.

If you go for it & you like it after leasing it for 3 years (& doing RCI Points exchanges within that time using your Club Trinidad points), then you renew the lease for 3 more years.

If you don't like it, you simply do not renew after your original 3-year lease runs out -- & that's that.

It's the easiest exit strategy in all of timesharing, but it has nothing whatever to do with any other timeshares you may happen to own. The lease agreement only covers your Right To Use ("RTU") at your leased Club Trinidad points-timeshare.

The "exit," if you decide to get out, is only from Club Trinidad. It's not an exit from any other timeshare(s) that you own or lease.

BTW, leased RTU timeshares are commonplace -- e.g., on the Mexican Riviera & Cabo, at DVC, possibly elsewhere. What's uncommon about Club Trinidad is the renewable 3-year RTU term. Those other RTU timeshares go for 25 years or 40 years or so at a stretch, & far as I know are not renewable.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 

[MuranoJo]

Our dinky points timeshare is out there in Arkansas somewhere -- Horseshoe Bend or some such.

We've never been there & we are not likely to go. We got it sight unseen via eBay strictly as a toe-hold into RCI Points. It's been OK for that, except that the annual maintenance fee is out of control -- $450 per year now for just 15,000 points, up from $300 or so when we bought it in 2005.

So it goes.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

My Mom was raised near that area (Hardy) and went back to retire there. We used to rent great houses on a lake close-by for about $200/week, but that was ~10 years ago. I would probably pass, mostly because you have to go across the border to MO to get booze. :rofl:

 

[John Cummings]

Las Vegas

Both "BlindBat" and "RedDogSD" are partially correct. BlindBat is correct about getting comped at his level of play depending on the property. RedDogSD is partially correct about people staying off strip.

Just for some background info to support my opinion. We have been regulars at Las Vegas and several other gaming venues around the country for several years having visited well over 100 casinos. We are fairly serious players and are fully comped in Las Vegas and elsewhere. I am a Diamond Card holder with Harrah's that get us fully comped for room/food/shows at all Harrah's properties around the world any day of the year. Harrah's owns 9 properties in Las Vegas: Harrah's, Imperial Palace, Flamingo, Ballys, Paris, Planet Hollywood, Caesar's Palace, and Rio. We stay at either Caesar's Palace or the Paris for 3-5 nights. We don't visit Las Vegas nearly as much as we used to as we far prefer our local California casino resorts where we also are fully comped. Now we just go to Las Vegas if they offer us something exceptional or for family reunions.

One of our best friends was a VP and hotel manager at the Flamingo and Station Casinos. We have had many discussions about the business in Las Vegas.

First, about comping. It is not based on losses nor the amount you spend out of your own pocket. It is based on the amount you cycle through the machine, time of play, and average bet. If you are on a lucky streak, you can cycle through a lot without spending a lot of your own money. Of course the reverse is true on a bad streak. The amount that "BlindBat" said he played will get you many free room/food offers at most properties.

"BlindBat" is right that most people do spend just 2-3 nights in Las Vegas. The majority are gamblers though there is a sizable number of visitors that don't gamble but even most of those don't want to stay a full week.

We have also spent many weeks at various timeshares in Las Vegas such as HGVC/Flamingo, Wyndham Grand Desert, Monarch's Cancun. We usually get a 2 BR unit and have relatives join us. Sometimes we don't feel like gambling a lot at our usual casinos and just hang out around the pool and play at some of the local casinos. That way we have no obligations like you do if you are taking offers.

So back to the topic at hand. I would never buy a timeshare in Las Vegas, especially for trading. It is very easy to exchange into Las Vegas at just about anytime of the year. This is a strong indicator that they will not have strong trading power. The number of people staying in timeshares in Las Vegas is a small percentage of the total number of visitors. Remember that TUG is a timeshare users group so obviously they mostly stay at timeshares but they are not representative of the average Las Vegas visitor.

 

[RedDogSD]

I would never buy a timeshare in Las Vegas, especially for trading. It is very easy to exchange into Las Vegas at just about anytime of the year. This is a strong indicator that they will not have strong trading power. The number of people staying in timeshares in Las Vegas is a small percentage of the total number of visitors. Remember that TUG is a timeshare users group so obviously they mostly stay at timeshares but they are not representative of the average Las Vegas visitor.

So, why would anyone buy a TS in Vegas then. Well, it may not be a tiger trader, but the MF at some properties is quite low and does not go up much at all. My Hawaii TS has doubled in MF over 10 years. Denise says that her Westin Ka'anapalli did the same thing. All of the Consolidated Resorts properties that I know in Vegas have not moved their MF's much at all. That was the same point that the HGVC salesperson told us when discussing which property to buy. He said that it is easy to maintain Towers in the desert. I hear about MF's going up crazy amounts in Orlando, Williamsburg and every other area all of the time. So, I personally like owning in Vegas and would consider picking up another one if I could stomach owning any more weeks. Right now, if I lock off all of my properties, we have 7 weeks easily which can turn in 14 when I use the Exchange companies. I just can't see how I can use anymore, even if I can somehow get to stay at Newport Coast Villas for 10-12 weeks per year.

 

[John Cummings]

So, why would anyone buy a TS in Vegas then. Well, it may not be a tiger trader, but the MF at some properties is quite low and does not go up much at all. My Hawaii TS has doubled in MF over 10 years. Denise says that her Westin Ka'anapalli did the same thing. All of the Consolidated Resorts properties that I know in Vegas have not moved their MF's much at all. That was the same point that the HGVC salesperson told us when discussing which property to buy. He said that it is easy to maintain Towers in the desert. I hear about MF's going up crazy amounts in Orlando, Williamsburg and every other area all of the time. So, I personally like owning in Vegas and would consider picking up another one if I could stomach owning any more weeks. Right now, if I lock off all of my properties, we have 7 weeks easily which can turn in 14 when I use the Exchange companies. I just can't see how I can use anymore, even if I can somehow get to stay at Newport Coast Villas for 10-12 weeks per year.

Why others buy in Las Vegas is not my concern. I just said that I would never buy there. The M/F on my coastal California resorts have been very stable over the past several years.

 

[BlindBat]

Both "BlindBat" and "RedDogSD" are partially correct. BlindBat is correct about getting comped at his level of play depending on the property. RedDogSD is partially correct about people staying off strip.

Just for some background info to support my opinion. We have been regulars at Las Vegas and several other gaming venues around the country for several years having visited well over 100 casinos. We are fairly serious players and are fully comped in Las Vegas and elsewhere. I am a Diamond Card holder with Harrah's that get us fully comped for room/food/shows at all Harrah's properties around the world any day of the year. Harrah's owns 9 properties in Las Vegas: Harrah's, Imperial Palace, Flamingo, Ballys, Paris, Planet Hollywood, Caesar's Palace, and Rio. We stay at either Caesar's Palace or the Paris for 3-5 nights. We don't visit Las Vegas nearly as much as we used to as we far prefer our local California casino resorts where we also are fully comped. Now we just go to Las Vegas if they offer us something exceptional or for family reunions.

One of our best friends was a VP and hotel manager at the Flamingo and Station Casinos. We have had many discussions about the business in Las Vegas.

First, about comping. It is not based on losses nor the amount you spend out of your own pocket. It is based on the amount you cycle through the machine, time of play, and average bet. If you are on a lucky streak, you can cycle through a lot without spending a lot of your own money. Of course the reverse is true on a bad streak. The amount that "BlindBat" said he played will get you many free room/food offers at most properties.

"BlindBat" is right that most people do spend just 2-3 nights in Las Vegas. The majority are gamblers though there is a sizable number of visitors that don't gamble but even most of those don't want to stay a full week.

We have also spent many weeks at various timeshares in Las Vegas such as HGVC/Flamingo, Wyndham Grand Desert, Monarch's Cancun. We usually get a 2 BR unit and have relatives join us. Sometimes we don't feel like gambling a lot at our usual casinos and just hang out around the pool and play at some of the local casinos. That way we have no obligations like you do if you are taking offers.

So back to the topic at hand. I would never buy a timeshare in Las Vegas, especially for trading. It is very easy to exchange into Las Vegas at just about anytime of the year. This is a strong indicator that they will not have strong trading power. The number of people staying in timeshares in Las Vegas is a small percentage of the total number of visitors. Remember that TUG is a timeshare users group so obviously they mostly stay at timeshares but they are not representative of the average Las Vegas visitor.

Drifting off topic here a bit but it is timely because I just booked 3 nights in Vegas for next month (July in Vegas... ugh!)

One of my friends (who has both more money and less brains than I ) is a Diamond with Harrah's and it is always fun to roll with him because Harrah's seems to take good care of the people they have at that level.

I focus my play on the MGM Casino's simply because they were the first to get their claws into me and have always been there with the comps when I asked. I play enough that they give me a "host" although inevitably by the time it comes to call him again he has moved on and they pass me to another (I just spoke to my 4th host in 5 years with my call in the other night).

The point of this rambling is that I learned something from John (I won't commit to remembering his full name because I'm sure he too will leave me with a broken players heart) that I found interesting. He ran through a breakdown of my play over the last few trips including average bet and time at the tables but he also mentioned that the Casino's will comp you if you get "hit" pretty hard. He pointed at a couple of trips where I came out on the losing end and mentioned that those "hits" had contributed to my present comps.

While I do like the bigger cleaner "corporate casino's" I also love to go "old school" into some of the dives. My favorite is Casino Royale (mid strip) that offers fantastic comps likely because if you are playing BJ at $25/$50 a hand you are a Whale in their books. It only takes about 2 hours of play for them to comp you a full dinner for two at the Outback Steakhouse they have on site.

 

[Larry]

Las Vegas timeshare saves me money

The original post was how does timeshare save me money. Well that's why I bought in Vegas.

One of my first purchases was at JC in Vegas that I bought resale about 14 years ago. I own 14 timeshare weeks and of all of my timeshares my maintenance has gone up the least amount over the years in Vegas.

At this point my 1BR JC has lower maintenance than any of the studio units that I own and certainly lower than any 1 or 2 BR that I own. I have never used it to go to Vegas and never will. I have been trading this week every year and for the past 10 years have used it as one of the units that I exchange or rent for a family vacation. If I add the exchange fee and my maintenance I save about $500 per week over renting the week which is spring break when schools are closed in NY.

I have also used it for other trades where it saved me at least $1,000 over renting. JC also allows me to exchange my week one year in advance without pre-paying the maintenance so I always book my exchange about 18 months in advance allowing me a better opportunity to get the trade I want.

Recently I purchased RCI points at Summer Bay in Las Vegas through Ebay because of the low maintenance fees vs points. On my first two exchanges I was able to get Aruba in January 2011 which I was never able to get even with my strongest trader in RCI.

Am I happy with my Vegas ownerships???

You Bet!!!!

Can I get comped in Vegas???? No way, since I am not a gambler but as someone else posted who owns at Summer Bay I am expecting to get my owners comp for 3 days from Summer Bay, to attend the owners "update" so for most tuggers who are not gamblers I would bet this is the only way they too will get comped.

I have also taken advantage of JC owners rate to got to Vegas 4 or 5 times for 3-4 nights that I added on to a west coast business trip over the past 12 years. Staying at a hotel would have cost me at least twice as much since they always included the weekend when rates are the highest in Vegas.

So does owning in Vegas save me money?????? You bet!!!

Will it save you money??? I have no idea since you may be better off staying in a hotel for a comp or low rate depending on your gambling habits.

So getting back to the original question can owning timeshare save the OP money? I don't know since we all have different wants and needs but has it saved me money, You bet it has!!!!!

Again, there are way too many blanket statements throughout this thread that may be true for the individual posters but not necessarily true for the majority on this BB.

Hey even this posting of mine may be only true for me, but I suspect it is true for many other Tuggers who are not gamblers.

 

[RedDogSD]

Back to my point....we TUG experts say (way too often) blanket statements like don't buy TS in Orlando or Vegas...yet everyone seems to do fine with theirs. They may be overbuilt, but they have DEMAND. Owning a place like Vail during April-May is a worse idea. Too late for skiing, too early for Summer fun. The place is a big pile of MUD.

 

[timeos2]

Buildings appear where they can be supported by owners

Back to my point....we TUG experts say (way too often) blanket statements like don't buy TS in Orlando or Vegas...yet everyone seems to do fine with theirs. They may be overbuilt, but they have DEMAND. Owning a place like Vail during April-May is a worse idea. Too late for skiing, too early for Summer fun. The place is a big pile of MUD.

Exactly. The reason more resorts aren't built on the beach or in ski areas or anywhere else that has highly seasonal (limited) demand is that people simply don't want to go there except in an extremely small slice of time. The reason the areas that already have timeshares get even more is because thats where they can be sold - people want to go there virtually year round. Inventory gets placed where it will sell, not where 9+ months of the year it has zero demand despite overwhelming demand for the 2-3 months that represents the only real viable use time. If the market supported development the inventory would be built. Most areas - even lovely, great locations in places people love to see IN SEASON - simply cannot support a year round need to operate (read pay expenses). Look at areas like Cape Cod. You can't get in June-August but the other 9 months are dogs extremely hard to sell & support. And that is an area with year round businesses. Others basically shutdown out of season making things even tougher.

 

[AwayWeGo]

So Why Don't They Build More Timeshares In Non-Resort Areas With Year-Round Demand ?

Exactly. The reason more resorts aren't built on the beach or in ski areas or anywhere else that has highly seasonal (limited) demand is that people simply don't want to go there except in an extremely small slice of time. The reason the areas that already have timeshares get even more is because thats where they can be sold - people want to go there virtually year round. Inventory gets placed where it will sell, not where 9+ months of the year it has zero demand despite overwhelming demand for the 2-3 months that represents the only real viable use time. If the market supported development the inventory would be built. Most areas - even lovely, great locations in places people love to see IN SEASON - simply cannot support a year round need to operate (read pay expenses). Look at areas like Cape Cod. You can't get in June-August but the other 9 months are dogs extremely hard to sell & support. And that is an area with year round businesses. Others basically shutdown out of season making things even tougher.

I guess Williamsburg VA comes close to that. But the real question is why not timeshares in places like Hollywood, California?

More timeshares in NYC & Washington DC ?

Boston ?

Chicago ?

St. Louis ?

San Francisco ?

San Diego ?

Seattle ?

Vancouver ?

Montreal ?

London ?

Paris ?

Amsterdam ?

Brussels ?

Rome ?

Tokyo ?

Etc.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 

[BlindBat]

Exactly. The reason more resorts aren't built on the beach or in ski areas or anywhere else that has highly seasonal (limited) demand is that people simply don't want to go there except in an extremely small slice of time. The reason the areas that already have timeshares get even more is because thats where they can be sold - people want to go there virtually year round. Inventory gets placed where it will sell, not where 9+ months of the year it has zero demand despite overwhelming demand for the 2-3 months that represents the only real viable use time. If the market supported development the inventory would be built. Most areas - even lovely, great locations in places people love to see IN SEASON - simply cannot support a year round need to operate (read pay expenses). Look at areas like Cape Cod. You can't get in June-August but the other 9 months are dogs extremely hard to sell & support. And that is an area with year round businesses. Others basically shutdown out of season making things even tougher.

Good point. High-end ski resorts seem to offer exceptional trading value but you need to pay attention to the season*

I think the litmus test is - and it was touched on earlier - if you can exchange in easily then it likely has lesser value going the other way. Obviously there are no hard and fast rules here, and I am glad that some LV Owners are having success trading.

* It should be noted that "off season" in a good Ski resort does not always mean "non ski season". I did some contract work for the Whistler Resort Association a few years back and was surprised to learn that Whistler has actually gotten to the point where they attract more people in the summer than the winter - the visits are not as long and they do not spend as much money as Winter visitors on average but summer is anything but off-season. In May, most of June, October, and November before T-giving, you can shoot a cannon through the place and only endanger a couple of rain-soaked squirrels. I'm not sure if other ski resorts have been able to mirror this summer boom but I imagine that Vail or Aspen would be a pretty nice place to be during the dog days of August.

 

[BlindBat]

I guess Williamsburg VA comes close to that. But the real question is why not timeshares in places like Hollywood, California?

More timeshares in NYC & Washington DC ?

Boston ?

Chicago ?

St. Louis ?

San Francisco ?

San Diego ?

Seattle ?

Vancouver ?

Montreal ?

London ?

Paris ?

Amsterdam ?

Brussels ?

Rome ?

Tokyo ?

Etc.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

I think you left out Cleveland?

Some of the point based systems have some urban locations (basically a few apartments out of a high rise building)

I belong to Club Intrawest and Vacation International and they both have spots in Vancouver (The CI is a gem whereas the VI is a rat hole) as well as Seattle? I think?

You can also get into a fractional in places like NYC and most of the destination club (like an exclusive resorts) also cover a lot of urban ground.

You are correct though.... I don't even think about my TS when planning an urban vacation.

 

[John Cummings]

My favorite is Casino Royale (mid strip) that offers fantastic comps likely because if you are playing BJ at $25/$50 a hand you are a Whale in their books. It only takes about 2 hours of play for them to comp you a full dinner for two at the Outback Steakhouse they have on site.

That is what I meant by comps depending on the property. I don't play table games anymore. The comping is somewhat different than slots because slot play is tracked very easily however, the same principles apply.

I am surprised that MGM has such a high turnover of hosts. I assume that you are not dealing ( no pun intended ) with an executive host. I have seen very little turnover with my executive hosts. There are some that I have been dealing with for 25 years.

 

[BlindBat]

That is what I meant by comps depending on the property. I don't play table games anymore. The comping is somewhat different than slots because slot play is tracked very easily however, the same principles apply.

I am surprised that MGM has such a high turnover of hosts. I assume that you are not dealing ( no pun intended ) with an executive host. I have seen very little turnover with my executive hosts. There are some that I have been dealing with for 25 years.

I imagine that with my level of play I am barely scrapping the bottom of the "host barrel". The turnover is likely due to the fact that when a busboy job becomes available they move on for the higher pay.

I've taken a real affection for the Casino Royale but it has really messed me up in other areas. We always save one evening for one of the high-end steak houses (SW at the Wynne has become my favorite) and when you throw in some free Outback (respectable steak normally, but dogfood after eating at the SW) I exceed the quota for how much red meat I should be jamming into my colon over a 3 day trip.

 

[John Cummings]

I guess Williamsburg VA comes close to that. But the real question is why not timeshares in places like Hollywood, California?

More timeshares in NYC & Washington DC ?

Boston ?

Chicago ?

St. Louis ?

San Francisco ?

San Diego ?

Seattle ?

Vancouver ?

Montreal ?

London ?

Paris ?

Amsterdam ?

Brussels ?

Rome ?

Tokyo ?

Etc.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

All of the locations on your list are cities. A major reason for not developing more urban properties is cost. I don't see too many people that would want to do a timeshare vacation in St. Louis. Also many of the cities on your list are seasonal. I have owned an urban timeshare in downtown San Diego for several years. Wyndham opened a new Workdmark in the same area as mine.

Urban properties are typically NOT a resort experience but a hotel substitute.

 

[RedDogSD]

All of the locations on your list are cities. A major reason for not developing more urban properties is cost. I don't see too many people that would want to do a timeshare vacation in St. Louis. Also many of the cities on your list are seasonal. I have owned an urban timeshare in downtown San Diego for several years. Wyndham opened a new Workdmark in the same area as mine.

Urban properties are typically NOT a resort experience but a hotel substitute.

I agree. I mentioned in another post how sad it is that there are no timeshares in Seattle. However, how can you sell weeks 1-20 and 35-50 in Seattle? They have extremely limited demand during off-peak season. NYC and Boston get away with it because of the large amount of visitors, but I am still shocked that people want to spend the Non-Christmas part of Winter in NYC when it is deadly cold. The fun part of NYC is walking everywhere.

 

[DeniseM]

Back to my point....we TUG experts say (way too often) blanket statements like don't buy TS in Orlando or Vegas...yet everyone seems to do fine with theirs. They may be overbuilt, but they have DEMAND. Owning a place like Vail during April-May is a worse idea. Too late for skiing, too early for Summer fun. The place is a big pile of MUD.

I don't think anyone has said that Florida or Las Vegas are the WORST traders, but if you are actively shopping for an effective trader, those aren't the BEST places to buy either.

I actually own an Orlando week and trade with it, but it's a fixed week that is Easter week 65% of the time, it's a Starwood TS, I got it for free, and it has a low MF, so it has a little edge over your run of the mill Orlando week.

 

[brucecz]

All of the locations on your list are cities. A major reason for not developing more urban properties is cost. I don't see too many people that would want to do a timeshare vacation in St. Louis. Also many of the cities on your list are seasonal. I have owned an urban timeshare in downtown San Diego for several years. Wyndham opened a new Workdmark in the same area as mine.

Urban properties are typically NOT a resort experience but a hotel substitute.

I agree, this past April while staying at the Wave Crest in a ocean Front 2 bedroom in Del Mar we checked out many of the timeshares north of Del Mar up to the Newport Coast Villas and looked at the Wyndham near the Southern Cal Beach resort.

My bride liked the Newport Coast Villas resort so we exchanged into there for next April. The Newport Coast Villas are nice but I think I prefer the Wave Crest and being right on the ocean.

We gotten out to the coastal San Diego area about once a year for about the past 6 years or so and invite her sister and husband from LA to spend a few days with us.

Bruce

 

[RedDogSD]

IMy bride liked the Newport Coast Villas resort so we exchanged into there for next April. The Newport Coast Villas are nice but I think I prefer the Wave Crest and being right on the ocean.

Bruce

Frankly I am shocked that you could prefer the Wave Crest over NCV, but I guess you are not impressed by the typical "resort" features like restaurants, fancy pools, tennis courts, etc. I love those things, so NCV is my favorite. Del Mar is great as well. When I was in college (living in La Jolla), my fraternity house was in Del Mar so I spent lots of time there. Great area, although not much to do.

I check in tonight to NCV for the next week. The weather is hot in Southern California this week (no June Gloom), so I am thrilled.

 

[brucecz]

Frankly I am shocked that you could prefer the Wave Crest over NCV, but I guess you are not impressed by the typical "resort" features like restaurants, fancy pools, tennis courts, etc. I love those things, so NCV is my favorite. Del Mar is great as well. When I was in college (living in La Jolla), my fraternity house was in Del Mar so I spent lots of time there. Great area, although not much to do.

I check in tonight to NCV for the next week. The weather is hot in Southern California this week (no June Gloom), so I am thrilled.

Have a nice vacation.

We like water and live on a Lake and like the sound of the ocean. But I am sure we will enjoy the Newport Coast Villas as it looked like a very nice resort when we did a unpaid drop in tour of the resort.

But I noticed on ebay resales that the Newport Coast Villas maintenance fees are $682.
We used a exspensive:rofl: white October:rofl: $50 CMV UDI Timbers week and a II $139 exchange fee so hope the exchange was worth :hysterical: the high cost.

Bruce

 

[RedDogSD]

But I noticed on ebay resales that the Newport Coast Villas maintenance fees are $682.
We used a exspensive:rofl: white October:rofl: $50 CMV UDI Timbers week and a II $139 exchange fee so hope the exchange was worth :hysterical: the high cost.

Bruce

Bruce....first of all, we don't own NCV, so no biggie to me. The Maint Fees are a lot higher than $682. They run around $950 or so which does not bother me for Oceanfront So Cal property.

Frankly Bruce...you keep bragging about how your CMV weeks cost you virtually nothing and you exchanged into more expensive places. That is great for you...but you could lay off the bragging. It is your worst quality. Otherwise, you are a great guy who everyone likes...but the constant boasting gets old. Since the week you gave up to trade into NCV could have been rented by you for your usual $699 or so fee (based upon what I see on the LMR board), then you actually gave up $699 + 139 for the week at NCV. Also, April is cold and rainy in So Cal (April showers bring May flowers), so your bride probably would have preferred if you got her a summer month, FYI.

 

[DeniseM]

Folks - let's not make this personal. Please attack the topic, and not other posters.

 

[John Cummings]

...Also, April is cold and rainy in So Cal (April showers bring May flowers), so your bride probably would have preferred if you got her a summer month, FYI.

Though April is not a prime week, except for Spring break, it is usually not cold and rainy. The average precipitation at Laguna Beach for April is 0.84" with an average high of 71 degrees. It will be a little warmer inland. I am usually swimming in my pool in April and I don't like cool water. This past April was much cooler than normal. Our flowers were all blooming in April.

Here is a link to the weather monthly averages in Laguna Beach

http://weather.yahoo.com/climo/USCA0573_f.html;_ylt=AjqyW.LbBBwcoqJ2gkmM9tiLYDIB?woeid=2434641