HGVC - Myrtle Beach

[night0wl]

Wow - I'm so happy to hear this news! Even though I'm not one to head to Myrtle Beach, its good to hear that HGVC is expansion mode. The moves out in California and now Myrtle bode well for the value of our system. Not like Marriott which seems to be casting off the Timeshare business altogether.

Did anyone else take the survey from HGVC a bit back? They kept looking at expansion opportunities and seemed like the questions were "leading" towards expansion in the Caribbean next. Woooo hooo!!! Good job HGVC!

 

[Sandy VDH]

Personally not all that thrilled with MB as I also own Wyndham and they have 4 choices there. Would prefer a Caribbean location instead.

 

[GregT]

Personally not all that thrilled with MB as I also own Wyndham and they have 4 choices there. Would prefer a Caribbean location instead.

I also hope that Caribbean can added as an option down the road, but my brief internet seach only opened Caribe Hilton in Puerto Rico as a Hilton property with condo's/villas. Perhaps that will be a Caribbean destination at some point, but TUG threads kind of downplayed that as a potential timeshare option.

We will see -- I'm still happy to see expansion!

Best,

Greg

 

[dougp26364]

But when they added the California properties (3 of them), they kept the same point structure -- and they have ocean views.

Kurt

Good point. I had forgotten about those additions. HGVC has been so slow to add new properties they've been way back on my back burner for vacation planning.

 

[GTLINZ]

Good point. I had forgotten about those additions. HGVC has been so slow to add new properties they've been way back on my back burner for vacation planning.

I think that HGVC actually only added 1 property in SoCal (Marbrisa) - it is HGVC managed and sold, and appears to be a permanent member of HGVC. I believe that the other 2 GPC properties (Palisades and Seapointe) are only affiliates, and managed by GPC (including inventory) similiar to other affiliates...

 

[PigsDad]

I think that HGVC actually only added 1 property in SoCal (Marbrisa) - it is HGVC managed and sold, and appears to be a permanent member of HGVC. I believe that the other 2 GPC properties (Palisades and Seapointe) are only affiliates, and managed by GPC (including inventory) similiar to other affiliates...

Yes, they are affiliates, but the point is that they kept the original HGVC point structure for those newly-added properties and didn't go with the higher point structure that was used for the new Hawaii properties. That gives us hope that the new MB property (if true) will use the original point structure as well.

Kurt

 

[Mcduck]

One thing that I have thought about with the new higher points is that with NYC its an urban destination and a very expensive place to have a nice hotel room so the extra points needed make it sellable. I wouldn't buy at west 57th if a studio was 2400 points with a very high maint fee and purchase price.

With Kings land the points seem a bit excessive but its more of a true resort and nicer than the other properties thus the premium is somewhat justified.

The grand Wakikien (sorry Spelling) is very expensive, albeit nice it seems just newer than lagoon and doesnt really have any extra amenities if offers. At least at Kings Land there is a super pool and more resort exclusive items. I think that was just a thing because they figured Kings Land got extra points.

I hope that the Myrtle Beach location has the same point structure as the rest of the clubs, I would say that South Beach is on the beach and the california properties all are at the regular level and are in great locations. I would hope its the same. My one asumtion when we purchased was that the point levels would be the same, since HGVC seems more of a blended system than true points.

Just some of my observations, I would be happy for a new location and would stay and possibly buy at a newer location. I think HGVC might be hitting the roadblock with members on more points at the Big 3, I know with me its an easy no as I would consider a new location but no need of another Orlando or Vegas week, already have those.

 

[pianodinosaur]

I called HGVC Elite yesterday and was advised that they are in the process of changing the condominiums in Myrtle Beach into timeshares. The HGVC representative told me that she does not know when the official announcement will be made and she did know the point structure. She did not know of any plans for the condominium complexes at the Conrads or in Australia.

 

[PigsDad]

I called HGVC Elite yesterday and was advised that they are in the process of changing the condominiums in Myrtle Beach into timeshares. The HGVC representative told me that she does not know when the official announcement will be made and she did know the point structure. She did not know of any plans for the condominium complexes at the Conrads or in Australia.

In looking at the hotel on the HHonors site, it looks like they just have studio, 2BR and 3BR units -- no 1BR units. I wonder if, as part of the conversion, they would do some remodeling to make some true 1BR units. That is a pretty popular unit size.

Kurt

 

[bdj604]

Yes, interesting that they define a hotel guestroom as their "one bedroom".

"Our one bedroom guestrooms are comparable to a hotel guestroom and offer a mini-fridge, microwave, coffee maker, and iron and ironing boards. Two and Three Bedroom Condos include living and dining area, full kitchen, washer/dryer, and private balconies. "

 

[floyddl]

Nice addition. Even has a couple of restaurants on site.

 

[gpw43147]

HGVC Myrtle Beach - Anderson Ocean Club - it's "official"

I have been told a couple of times by an HGVC sales agent (trying to get me to upgrade) that HGVC would be opening a property in Myrtle Beach. Finally, I called back and pressed for details. They are acquiring 350 units at the Anderson Ocean Club in North Myrtle Beach. I believe they are now selling units, but have not yet opened it up for nightly rentals. He said hopefully in a week or so they would be starting that. I was also told they would be available for online reservations through the HGVC website. As everyone has mentioned, what will be the point structure? I was not able to obtain that info as of yet. I received all of this info firsthand from an HGVC salesman.

 

[floyddl]

I have been told a couple of times by an HGVC sales agent (trying to get me to upgrade) that HGVC would be opening a property in Myrtle Beach. Finally, I called back and pressed for details. They are acquiring 350 units at the Anderson Ocean Club in North Myrtle Beach. I believe they are now selling units, but have not yet opened it up for nightly rentals. He said hopefully in a week or so they would be starting that. I was also told they would be available for online reservations through the HGVC website. As everyone has mentioned, what will be the point structure? I was not able to obtain that info as of yet. I received all of this info firsthand from an HGVC salesman.

Thanks for the info. So is the Anderson or Royale Palms or both that will be added to the HGVC? Looking into the location the the Anderson is in Myrtle not North Myrtle. It is further south than the Marriott Oceanwatch property. Reading the reviews and looking at the pictures on both properties the Royale Palms seems to be a bit nicer. If both were added that would be great.

 

[rebel]

The answer is Anderson Ocean Club. I did a Google search and found this employement ad. "Hilton Grand Vacations is Coming too Myrtle Beach.

HGVC is going to have a prime ocean front resort coming to the Anderson Ocean Club by May 2011."

 

[GregT]

That is interesting -- I had assumed it would be Royale Palms because its already a hilton condo -- now that it is (at least, appears to be) Andersen Ocean Club, that's interesting because it shows they are expanding by acquiring entirely new properties, versus simply converting what they already own.

That's encouraging in that any future expansion plans may not be limited to whats already owned. I'm still hoping for a Caribbean spot....

Best,

Greg

 

[linsj]

A sales person told me last week that it will the higher point structure and will open for sales in May.

 

[jdunn1]

This news is a bit of a bummer. The Royale Palms resort looks much nicer than Anderson in terms of resort featueres and even the rooms.

 

[pianodinosaur]

I looked up the Anderson Ocean Club and Spa. http://www.oceanaresorts.com/hotels/anderson The resort looks very nice but not quite as nice as the condominium complex Hilton already owns.

 

[bdj604]

A sales person told me last week that it will the higher point structure and will open for sales in May.

Any theories on why the higher point structure? On the beach, big upgrades coming, other?

 

[PigsDad]

Any theories on why the higher point structure? On the beach, big upgrades coming, other?

Probably because a higher point structure results in higher sales prices that Hilton can get from suckers retail buyers. :ignore:

Kurt

 

[sjuhawk_jd]

That is interesting -- I had assumed it would be Royale Palms because its already a hilton condo -- now that it is (at least, appears to be) Andersen Ocean Club, that's interesting because it shows they are expanding by acquiring entirely new properties, versus simply converting what they already own.

That's encouraging in that any future expansion plans may not be limited to whats already owned. I'm still hoping for a Caribbean spot....

Best,

Greg

Hilton may not own the Royale Palms, just may be managing it for the owners/investors.

If they got a better deal from Anderson OC (as compared to Royale Palms), then they will go with Anderson OC.

 

[floyddl]

Hilton may not own the Royale Palms, just may be managing it for the owners/investors.

If they got a better deal from Anderson OC (as compared to Royale Palms), then they will go with Anderson OC.

From the pictures the Anderson doesn't seem like the property to command the higher point structure. It is nice to have options though.

 

[Talent312]

I may be at fault for speculating early on that it would be Royale Palms.
It was just a guess, cuz it seemed to make so much sense at the time.

Here's more speculation:
HGVC is likely to find that the lure of the beach notwithstanding, in this economy and gas prices high, MB will prove to be a hard sell (figuratively and literally). Nonetheless, current owners will trip over themselves getting into someplace "new."

 

[gomarkt]

Hgvc Mb

Was in a HGVC sales presentation today and salesperson told me HGVC was opening a MB property. When I pressed him for location or address he said I could get this from Grand Times. I checked and found nothing in the GT issues I reviewed. Is this smoke or real?

 

[Talent312]

Was in a HGVC sales presentation today and salesperson told me HGVC was opening a MB property. When I pressed him for location or address he said I could get this from Grand Times. I checked and found nothing in the GT issues I reviewed. Is this smoke or real?

Nothing has been announced "officially," yet. But it appear to be true.

They have advertised job openings for the MB location and several members have posted contacts with HGVC (see above) which confirm the plans.

They probably won't announce it in GT until they are ready to start selling.
So mark it on the wall... one instance of a salesman being truthful!

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BTW, I hope you weren't foolish enuff to sign a contract.