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[jp10558]

Yea. any car goes through tires, and I haven't noticed vehicle weight playing a huge factor, though I'm sure it plays some, I also figure the tires are designed for the weight they hold so ... IDK.

 

[bizaro86]

Yea. any car goes through tires, and I haven't noticed vehicle weight playing a huge factor, though I'm sure it plays some, I also figure the tires are designed for the weight they hold so ... IDK.

I mean friction is proportional to normal force (which is basically weight) so I think it's logical to expect heavier vehicles to go through tires faster.

 

[TheTimeTraveler]

What maintenance do you have to do on these cars?

Drive 'em and charge the battery.










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[jp10558]

I mean friction is proportional to normal force (which is basically weight) so I think it's logical to expect heavier vehicles to go through tires faster.

If everything else is the same, sure - but there are harder and softer tire compositions. Also I would think PSI to the ground would matter, so if the contact surface gets larger proportionally (or faster) that should lessen the load on the tire right?

 

[davidvel]

If everything else is the same, sure - but there are harder and softer tire compositions. Also I would think PSI to the ground would matter, so if the contact surface gets larger proportionally (or faster) that should lessen the load on the tire right?

It is the same load on each tire regardless of psi.

 

[WaikikiFirst]

tires are designed for the weight they hold so ... IDK

Yes. You don't. Being designed to HOLD the weight without exploding =/= somehow avoiding the extra friction caused by the weight.
I'm sorry I told you about the actual experience of someone who HAS the car. I'm sure speculation is much more fun than his experience

 

[jp10558]

Yes. You don't. Being designed to HOLD the weight without exploding =/= somehow avoiding the extra friction caused by the weight.
I'm sorry I told you about the actual experience of someone who HAS the car. I'm sure speculation is much more fun than his experience

Ehh, lots of people's "actual experience" is very much untrustworthy - we don't pay attention, we misattribute things, we're deluded by various illusions etc. I'm just saying I've had the same car wear different tires at different rates while I at least thought I was driving substantially the same. Everyone I know thinks "tires don't last as long as they did 20 years ago", but is that true? No one has the same car and same brand tires, and couldn't have the same production run of tires to actually compare due to aging out...

I would think it's more likely that people are using the higher torque to wear the tires faster.

EDIT: It also probably depends on how much of a differential in weight there is. A quick google shows ICE weights are up too - a 2020 Honda Pilot was 4,000lbs to 4,300lbs, a 2024 was 4,300 to 4,660 or so. my 2018 Outback was 3,600 I think. Kagi searching a Model 3 vs Impreza for instance shows the Model 3 at ~3,500 and the Impreza at ~3,400. Maybe I'm already used to heavy vehicles for AWD?

 

[easyrider]

It is the same load on each tire regardless of psi

It can't be the same load on each tire regardless of psi or motion. The vehicle weight, or weight in motion, is never the same on all four tires.

Tires are rated for the vehicle by both the tire manufacturer and the vehicle manufacturer. The tire has a rating on the tire and the vehicle has a tire rating often found on the driver door jamb.

Bill

 

[easyrider]

I was looking at used Tesla's last summer and Hertz was blowing them out back then. It didn't look like a good flip. A realtor I know bought a Tesla from Hertz last summer for around $22,000. I think the cost was offset by incentives and a reduced sales tax plus. It's also a business write off and conversation starter.

Bill

 

[Carolinian]

'Crazy cheap' Teslas hit the market as Hertz fire sale intensifies

Hertz's decision to buy 100,000 Teslas has backfired badly - but it does mean cheap EVs are up for grabs.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[davidvel]

It can't be the same load on each tire regardless of psi or motion. The vehicle weight, or weight in motion, is never the same on all four tires.

Tires are rated for the vehicle by both the tire manufacturer and the vehicle manufacturer. The tire has a rating on the tire and the vehicle has a tire rating often found on the driver door jamb.

Bill

I didn't say each tire has an equal amount of weight on them. Read again.

 

[Roger830]

'Crazy cheap' Teslas hit the market as Hertz fire sale intensifies

Hertz's decision to buy 100,000 Teslas has backfired badly - but it does mean cheap EVs are up for grabs.

www.dailymail.co.uk

It's odd that the two articles are focusing on Tesla.

The Hertz website currently shows only 10 Teslas and 51 Bolts for sale.
The Teslas in the 50,000 mile range are about $25,000, Bolts about $14,000

A Tesla with over 122,000 miles is $17,767 and also possibly qualifies for a $4,000 tax credit.

It seems that the Bolts are the dogs.

Teslas

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[easyrider]

I didn't say each tire has an equal amount of weight on them. Read again.

You said each tire has the same load which is wrong . Now if you said each tire has the same load rating you would be right if the tires are a matching set.

 

[davidvel]

You said each tire has the same load which is wrong . Now if you said each tire has the same load rating you would be right if the tires are a matching set.

No I did not say "each tire has the same load." Where on earth did you get that? (I know, made it up.)
What I said was:

It is the same load on each tire regardless of psi.

This is different than "each tire has the same load." I was responding to this:

. Also I would think PSI to the ground would matter, so if the contact surface gets larger proportionally (or faster) that should lessen the load on the tire right?

So in this context, "It is the same load on each tire regardless of psi," means that the load on each tire (whatever it is), does not change due to "PSI to the ground."

Good attempt, though.

 

[easyrider]

No I did not say "each tire has the same load." Where on earth did you get that? (I know, made it up.)
What I said was:

This is different than "each tire has the same load." I was responding to this:

So in this context, "It is the same load on each tire regardless of psi," means that the load on each tire (whatever it is), does not change due to "PSI to the ground."

Good attempt, though.

You have it wrong again Dave. No tire has the same load at any psi because the weight of the vehicle is not distributed exactly even to each tire.

Bill