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Have I been duped by Universal Marketing Solutions?

Talent312

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Geeze. I find it difficult to believe that there are folks so gullible
as to fall for this scam. "If it sounds too good to be true..."
They should be required to read every TUG post ever written.
 

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I was wondering why the poster decided to come back to this thread and remove the majority of his/her posts. Please let us know.

The poster in question was made to feel rather uncomfortable because he/she said something positive about a poster who was clearly not popular here. This person most likely felt that his/her input wasn't welcome or appreciated, so he/she yanked the posts.

This thread seems to attract people prone to wild fits of emotion.
 

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or the same person
 

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They have come up with a new scam. if you have listed your unit with them.(yes we did). they call back after months and say they have a buyer and oh by the way your bounus weeks you have they want to buy that as well. They give you dollar amounts and give you confirmation numbers and say a contract will be mailed that day. they need to verify the credit card you used before. the next thing you know is you get the same type of contract you did before. which is just a listing fee you have now added your bounus weeks to the listing. fortunitely I was checking the credit card and as soon as we saw it i called the credit card company and had the payment stoped.:mad: :mad:
 

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The poster in question was made to feel rather uncomfortable because he/she said something positive about a poster who was clearly not popular here. This person most likely felt that his/her input wasn't welcome or appreciated, so he/she yanked the posts.

This thread seems to attract people prone to wild fits of emotion.

As I participated, lets make it clear that I questioned the validity of TMOwner1000000's posts because there was just too much of a similarity between that posters location and the state of Nirvana that bocabill claimed to be in. If the 2 posters are in fact one and the same, I think it is clear that tug has no room for that type of poster. If they are not, then my post did nothing to warrant withdrawing his/her posts. I would be interested in hearing from TMOwner1000000 why he/she withdrew the posts. Seems lately that I have been getting under the skin of some new posters but it is not like they are newbies seeking answers to good questions but rather new posters with agendas.
 

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You can't believe anyone would fall for that scam???? I have a good friend who (her late husband did too) had a college degree and is a pretty smart lady. She owned timeshares and wanted to sell. I TOLD HER not to go with one of these companies and she listened. Then later she went right ahead and did it - lost $600 or so and, of course, never sold her timeshare. WTH???? Ah well, I tried not to scream and this was a number of years ago. :wall:
 
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I is not that other angry dude.

I was wondering why the poster decided to come back to this thread and remove the majority of his/her posts. Please let us know.

It was me being paranoid, nothing about youse questioning me. I did get my refund and it was early in the week, so I wanted to be sure the check cleared with my bank. I have pursed through these threads and you all seem to be very nice people. I wish I knew what I know now before jumping on with UMS, but now that is history. I really didn't think I would ever get that money back, so I am happy now. (see more following)
 
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It is not that it sounded to good to be true...

Geeze. I find it difficult to believe that there are folks so gullible
as to fall for this scam. "If it sounds too good to be true..."
They should be required to read every TUG post ever written.

.. it is desperation and desire to get rid of it. My story is slightly different, in that, I was only looking to rent. Their sales pitch of having someone wanting to buy is the "hook line and sinker". BUT, that is also the "fraud". Only, nobody knows it and one can't prove it.
 

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It was me being paranoid, nothing about youse questioning me. I did get my refund and it was early in the week, so I wanted to be sure the check cleared with my bank. I have pursed through these threads and you all seem to be very nice people. I wish I knew what I know now before jumping on with UMS, but now that is history. I really didn't think I would ever get that money back, so I am happy now. (see more following)

Glad the cheque cleared and hope it wasn't for a larger amount requesting that you forward the balance to Nigeria.:D
 
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TMOwner1000000

Beware Of Company Wanting a MONEY AGENT...

Glad the cheque cleared and hope it wasn't for a larger amount requesting that you forward the balance to Nigeria.:D

...from Poland...er...nevermind, that is a story for a different board.
 

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I feel the love. Let's gather 'round and sing Kumbaya. :)
 
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Ok Here Is The Deal...

... that worked for me.

I called UMS to ask them to close my account. Gave them my name and ad#. I was put on hold and when they came back, they told me they had someone but still checking credit. I was like, "ok, great, I don't want to close." I waited a day. I called again. Same thing happened, but this time, I called them at their own game. After the lady told me they had someone, I told her, "You just commited fraud!" "What?" "You just commited fraud, there is nobody in credit check." She turned away from phone and said to someone, "he said I commited fraud." Another person came on. I recognized her as being a major player from the Other Thread I mentioned before. She tried to explain that they check the Buyers to get a down payment and there are lots of Timeshares to choose from. I informed her that the person before her check MY AD# and she told me they wanted MY timeshare. I went on to explain that according to the Contract, item #2 says that they will forward all inquiries to the Owner. This person in credit hold, you did not forward their inquiry to me. That is a breach of contract. I told her that on 4 seperate occasions, one being yesterday, you breached the contract by not forwarding the inquiries to me. ( I had a note of the times I had called in the past, but I fudged the dates, not remembering the exact day, but I wrote it down on my paper before I called) Yep, on Aug 8 2008 @ 11am, I called and Sept 11, @ 9:15...etc... Each time I was told they had someone interested. She went on to explain how I would get my fees when TM was sold. I explained, after the 120 days, you have no incentive to sell (but I was only in it for rent). "And while we are on this call, I want to close my account." "That is fine, we can stop working to get you a buyer." she said. Fine... close it. She said she would. "Ok, good, now that you closed it, I want my fees refunded, item #3 says it will be refunded 'upon closing'" "No, that means when the deal is done" she responded. "No, close means close. It doesn't say here that it means 'closing a deal', that is what you say it means."

Well, the conversation ended with her saying that I can do whatever I want to try to get those fees refunded. Now, I have to make note that during our conversation, she brought up the Other Thread and how that ex-employee was mad and I shouldn't believe a word he says. But I pointed out that Joanne, a representive of UMS, also said on that Other Thread that UMS would refund the fees without anybody having to threaten to go to the Attorney General. "So, I shouldn't believe what Joanne said about refund if upset?"

About a minute after hanging up, I got a call from another major player, also recognized name from the ex-employee Other Thread. Although when I asked him for his name, he gave me a different last name than what it really was. He calls and explains how item #3 means closing the deal...blah blah and how about half my fees being refunded. "No, I am not happy with that." He says, "I will send you a check overnight for half and that is end of story." Hung up.
About another minute later, he calls back... "Ok, out of the goodness of my heart, we will send a check for the full refund." Hung up.
I called back. (this is when I find out he gave me the wrong name) I thought, this is another scam. Tell me they send check & I wait forever. I get Mr Manager back on phone. "Why can't you credit back my Credit Card? I asked.
He got upset. "I told you we will refund it, now don't be calling me back about this. I am being nice!" Hang up!

Man, was I shocked to see a FedEx truck deliver me that check the next day.

One more thing I neglected here. On the second day before I actually called in to claim FRAUD. I did call their Attorney. I told him that I had 3 cases of breach of contract, (he is the person that wrote the contract) one being as early as yesterday and that I would like to talk to him about it. Left my name & number. Then I called UMS. I don't know if the Attorney call helped my case or not. When they told me the lie, that was #4.

I encourage anyone that wants out of Universal Marketing Solutions to employ this tatic, it worked for me.
Oh yeah, and I used a telephone number that went to a live person and is not their normal Customer Service line that usually goes to voicemail. I did catch them off gaurd. I will enable my Email for Members or Admin to contact me if you want that phone number or want any other assistance..

One last thing... the one person told me to send a Certified Letter to their Owner, Jennifer Kirk, saying the timeshare didn't sell as expected and I can't recall if the letter should say that I would contact the Attorney General or not, but if I sent the letter, then I would get a refund. Since I can't recall exactly, that is why I am not saying you have to do that. But I was about to write that letter before they called back. I can also provide you some info if above tatic doesn't seem to work and you feel that you have to threaten them with a lawsuit or whatever.
 
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TMOwner1000000

The Power of the Internet....

....this came down today...

ATTENTION ALL TIMESHARE OWNERS WITH UNIVERSAL MARKETING SOLUTIONS!!! UMS was recently given a cease and desist order by the DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE. If you get a phone call from one of their representatives the company and employees can be indited on state and federal charges. AGAIN UNIVERSAL MARKETING SOLUTIONS CANNOT COLD CALL OR CONTACT YOU FROM HERE ON OUT OR IT IS A FEDERAL OFFENSE, UMS IS NO LONGER IN BUSINESS, CHARGEBACK YOUR CREDIT CARD IMMEDIATELY!!!!
 

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DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE ??????

That doesn't sound quite right to me.... :shrug:
 
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and so I am done...

.... I only came to this board because Google found it in a Universal Marketing Solutions search. The real info, for anyone seeking a refund is on Yedda thread. I got mine already and with the internet, many others have too or are in the process of doing so. To all those "negitive" posters here.... ha ha, I got the last laugh. (please delete my UserName - I shall not be back) :banana:
 

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tmoWNER1000001

listen to one of your own...

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tmoWNER1000001

So mature...

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tmoWNER1000001

Yeah...

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Not quite sure why you still cant seem to grasp the concept of the posting guidelines you have now agreed to twice, even after your last banning.

I grow weary of your antics, surely there is a better way to get your message out than acting like a 12 year old girl who didnt get a pony for her birthday.
 
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