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Gift of time

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Why I deleted the link....

I have received an e-mail message from a TUGger complaining about my deletion of the link for the Gift of Time program. I also note Clemson Fan's concern above about my deletion of his post.

Thus, here is my thinking on the matter.

The terms of the MVCI site make it pretty clear that any content on that site that's not readily available to the general public is restricted in its use. Also, the linked page, although it doesn't have a password, clearly states at the bottom of the page that it's "Marriott Proprietary Information".

The "password" to the Gift of Time page was the link in the e-mail that some of us have received from Marriott. That's as much of a password as if we were sent the word "Marriott" as a password and we shared that with everyone! Without the link in that message, the general public can't access that page. Sure, a hacker could. But that same hacker could probably get around a simple password, too.

I deleted the link primarily because there are some legal issues associated with publishing the link. TUG doesn't care to get caught up in those legal issues. It's for that same reason that when someone copies and posts an entire newspaper article (obviously copyrighted), we routinely delete most of the article from the post, so as to comply with copyright rules, even though an argument might be made that an article in the public domain, copied over and over again on various sites, might lose its copyright protection.

One of my Marriott contacts called their view to my attention and requested that we delete the link.

Because of (1) the respect that I have for Marriott and their program, (2) the help and useful information that they are willing to share with us for the benefit of TUGgers from time to time and (3) the questionable legal issue, it was an easy decision for me to delete the link.

Unrelated to my reasons for the deletion, I also believe that by taking a stance of "I don't care about Marriott's orderly invitation process, I'll post the link anyway", we openly invite Marriott to make future changes to the program that none of us will like.

The e-mail we received from Marriott was intended for those who have received it thus far and only for them. Treating it otherwise seems disrespectful to all. Again, that's just my opinion and not related to the reasons for deleting the link. Thus, anyone can thumb a nose at the program by posting the link elsewhere, but not at TUG.
 
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Once you purchase the confirmation page clearly states that the offer is for MVCI owners and that all other confirmations will be cancelled. It would be interesting to see if anyone has tried it and Marriott has cancelled it.
OK, that makes sense. I will try it. Maybe MIL will get lucky and get to keep the VISA MRP's ;) :D

Pat
 

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I was also curious why I had not received a notice about this offer so I called Marriott directly. The representative said the offer was open to any owner and there was no tiered system as to what owners it was sent to. He gave me the website information over the phone so it appears any owner can now get the information if they don't already have it.
 

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Hey guys, I finally decided to reserve a week. I'm not sure yet if I'm going to use it myself or trade it. If I decide to trade it, would I need to call Owner Services or Interval in order to have the unit show up in my Interval account?
 

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Island_Hopper said:
Hey guys, I finally decided to reserve a week. I'm not sure yet if I'm going to use it myself or trade it. If I decide to trade it, would I need to call Owner Services or Interval in order to have the unit show up in my Interval account?



Call the Marriott desk at II. You need the confirmation number and they will add the week to your account.
 

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Re: Why I deleted the link....

Dave M said:
One of my Marriott contacts called their view to my attention and requested that we delete the link.

Because of (1) the respect that I have for Marriott and their program, (2) the help and useful information that they are willing to share with us for the benefit of TUGgers from time to time and (3) the questionable legal issue, it was an easy decision for me to delete the link.

I really hope that’s true and Marriott insiders are sharing “inside” information for the benefit of all TUGgers and not just a select few who are in a closed e-mail forum. Otherwise, if Marriott insiders were sharing insider information with a select few TUGgers without being shared to all on the BB’s, then Marriott would be exercising de facto editorial control over this BB.

This is just a comment only. I honestly respect Dave a great deal and I believe what he says to be TRUE.
 

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Re: Why I deleted the link....

Dave M said:
Unrelated to my reasons for the deletion, I also believe that by taking a stance of "I don't care about Marriott's orderly invitation process, I'll post the link anyway", we openly invite Marriott to make future changes to the program that none of us will like.

I disagree with this b/c I'm not afraid of Marriott making changes that are probably needed. The system appears to be flawed b/c it appears that I can just send the weblink to whomever I like who may not be a MVCI owner and they can then make a reservation. If that's the case, then I'd just rather share it with TUGgers who've provided me with some great information in the past. I'd rather have a TUGger take advantage of a deal then some Marriott insider who may not even own a MVCI interest. Some people may like that and may not want to see it changed.

I actually love MVCI and the properties that we've been to. I have no problem praising them and their associates and have done so many times. However, I don't like seeing them put a system into place (albeit a bonus week system) that is open for their own people to take advantage of rather then who it was intended for. If that's the case, I'd rather just let the cat out of the bag.

Ultimately, they do own the weeks and they can do with them as they please which pretty much lays waste to my above arguments. If they choose to intend it for their own people, then so be it.

If I were to be honest with myself, a lot of this stems from my frustration with their reservation system which I think is highly flawed and open to insider abuse that I really have been giving Marriott a hard time about fixing. I've gone into that enough elsewhere.

So, I'm happy I got what I got and I won't post the link elsewhere.
 

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I've received a lot of e-mails from TUGgers now asking me for the link. I'm sorry folks, but I'm going to move on from this situation and thread and not e-mail the link out. :wall:

I'd suggest that you call your VOA or another MVCI rep to get it through official channels.

Best wishes and best of luck!
 

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If you own a Marriott but did not receive an email, call Owner Services and ask to be put through to a Gift of Time Specialist. Anyone owning at least one Marriott is permitted to book these weeks from what I understand.
 

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Is there a limit on how many you can reserve? I guessed the link and got an Ocean Pointe OV - all the OF are gone - will be using it - thanks to GaryDouglas for making that comment -
 
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Re: Why I deleted the link....

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I really hope that’s true and Marriott insiders are sharing “inside” information for the benefit of all TUGgers and not just a select few who are in a closed e-mail forum.
If there is a closed or secret e-mail group, I'm not on it.

I think anyone who follows this forum regularly has likely noticed that occasionally I correct some information others have posted, make an announcement regarding timing or details of a new Marriott project or provide some other new info. Occasinally that info comes from another TUGger. Often it comes from other respected sources.

To the best of my knowledge, I don't get any useful information about Marriott's timeshare program that isn't shared on this forum.
 

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I just reserved an Ocean Pointe OV. I will most likley deposit it with II. I hope I can get an AC with it.
 

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FYI,

Was told the Grand Chateau doesn't receive an AC for deposit.
 

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I called Interval International about depositing weeks acquired through the "Gift of Time" offer. They told me that I could only bank weeks at resorts where I own intervals. Their system doesn't allow deposit of weeks at locations where I don't have ownership.

Could someone confirm this?
 

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Thanks, Dave. That's where I received this information, the Marriott Desk at II. So if I want to use the week, no problem. But if I want to deposit it, I can only deposit weeks at my own resort. Does it make sense to purchase a week at Ko Olina at $1,100 just to bank it?
 

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Oops! Sorry about my incorrect response. I had my head buried, apparently!

You can make your reservation for the Gift of Time week either online or via phone with Marriott Owner Services.

No matter which way you do it, next talk to an Owner Services rep, who can deposit your week for you. Home resort or other resort. Guaranteed!
 

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I purchased a week at a resort I do not own. I assume it would be problematic to deposit into SFX, since I am not an owner there. It might be construed as depositing a rental week.
 

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calgal said:
I purchased a week at a resort I do not own. I assume it would be problematic to deposit into SFX, since I am not an owner there. It might be construed as depositing a rental week.
SFX is familar with this Marriott program. You may wish to ask Mark about it over on TSF.

I imagine all they would need to do is confirm the reservation with Marriott, after you provide them with the reservation confirmation number. Depositing with them should be no different than with II, as you can deposit one of these intervals with them, even if the resort isn't in your account.

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Thank you again Tuggers! I ignored this thread because I have a surplus of weeks, but last night I had some free time, read this thread and a lightbulb came on. My daughter and future SIL asked if I would try to get a Marriott Hawaii week for their honeymoon in September 2007. I wanted to accomodate them, but had angst about trading my best TS (only another Tugger would understand) in order to have sufficient trade power. Today I purchased a Wk 53 in Hawaii and will request a trade back for their honeymoon. Now I feel more secure that the trade will come in, and my family can still enjoy our home resort this summer. I love learning from the experts on how to play this game, one happy Tugger am I.

Now somebody stop me from buying another one!

Maria
 

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I purchased a BeachPlace Towers week and was told I would also receive an AC. How long does it take for the AC to be placed in my II account? How long should I wait before calling the VC?

Thanks,
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ml855 said:
I purchased a BeachPlace Towers week and was told I would also receive an AC. How long does it take for the AC to be placed in my II account? How long should I wait before calling the VC?

Thanks,
Jean


Once you deposit to II, they get back to you with an AC in 3-5 days. If not, a call would not hurt to remind them....
 
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