Expect action on government regulation of religious services

[bbodb1]

Two stories where a church organized service caused an increase in cases:

Nearly 3 dozen who attended event at Arkansas church test positive for coronavirus

"Maybe you assumed that it couldn’t happen to you, just like I did," the church pastor wrote in a Facebook post.

www.nbcnews.com

Washington choir rehearsal linked to coronavirus outbreak after dozens of members fall ill, 2 die

A choir rehearsal in Washington state earlier this month is believed to have served as the catalyst for a coronavirus “super-spreading event” after dozens of members fell ill and two died from the infectious disease.

www.foxnews.com

 

[WVBaker]

Here is the problem in brief:

Person(s) engage in behavior that increase their likelihood of their exposure to COVID-19. (Example: large group gatherings)
One (or more) of the persons in the group then come in contact with a person who has been taking every possible precaution to avoid COVID-19.
The precaution taking person gets sick.

It is this scenario where legitimate public health concerns MUST come first.

I can see the validity of that however, impose that limiting restriction on every business and office, government or otherwise, throughout the country.

Until you do so, don't impose such a limit on just some.

 

[bbodb1]

Just curious. This is true so why would his post be stronger if he omits it?

@TravelTime - I want to answer this BUT I know we need to tread lightly here. Bunk's point was this "Going to religious services is a necessary part of the practice of most religions." (bolded emphasis added)

I disagree with the word necessary - attendance at a service is not required for a man or woman to practice their religion. Can a person NOT practice religion when alone or at home? If religion (and religious beliefs) only apply when a congregation of people with similar beliefs meet, what does that say about religious beliefs? As an aside, I would really love to have a deep discussion about the process of forming beliefs (of any and all kinds) - but that belongs in another thread for sure.

It may be preferred (desired) by the person but it is not required for a person to be religious that they must attend service(s).

The rest of Bunk's post was very good and I am sad to say that many of Bunk's points either have not been followed up on OR I have missed where they have been.

 

[WVBaker]

Two stories where a church organized service caused an increase in cases:

Nearly 3 dozen who attended event at Arkansas church test positive for coronavirus

"Maybe you assumed that it couldn’t happen to you, just like I did," the church pastor wrote in a Facebook post.

www.nbcnews.com

Washington choir rehearsal linked to coronavirus outbreak after dozens of members fall ill, 2 die

A choir rehearsal in Washington state earlier this month is believed to have served as the catalyst for a coronavirus “super-spreading event” after dozens of members fell ill and two died from the infectious disease.

www.foxnews.com

"We are still investigating newly reported cases and can’t definitively say they are all connected to one church," McNeill told NBC News on Thursday. "This is a cluster within a larger outbreak in that area of the state."

Nearly 3 dozen who attended event at Arkansas church test positive for coronavirus

"Maybe you assumed that it couldn’t happen to you, just like I did," the church pastor wrote in a Facebook post.

www.nbcnews.com

A choir rehearsal in Washington state earlier this month is the likely catalyst for a coronavirus “super-spreading event” after dozens of members fell ill and two died from the infectious disease.

Washington choir rehearsal linked to coronavirus outbreak after dozens of members fall ill, 2 die

A choir rehearsal in Washington state earlier this month is believed to have served as the catalyst for a coronavirus “super-spreading event” after dozens of members fell ill and two died from the infectious disease.

www.foxnews.com

Once again, with a two week incubation period , were the individuals involved in both instances, in these gatherings, for the full two weeks prior to their illness. If not, and this is important, their contact could have come from anywhere. If they were ill at the time they entered the gatherings and showing some symptom(s) then yes, they shouldn't have been in public regardless of where they were.

If you can't prove that they contacted the illness at these gatherings guess what, you have a theory, an assumption, a guess and nothing more.

 

[MULTIZ321]

For Salem congregation, a stunning
concentration of COVID, a reliance on faith.

For Salem congregation, a stunning concentration of COVID, a reliance on faith | Salem Reporter

One by one, members of a Salem church fell ill with the coronavirus. Church leaders worked to share encouragement and hope, tested by hospitalizations and rules of separation.

www.salemreporter.com

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Richard

 

[TravelTime]

@TravelTime - I want to answer this BUT I know we need to tread lightly here. Bunk's point was this "Going to religious services is a necessary part of the practice of most religions." (bolded emphasis added)

I disagree with the word necessary - attendance at a service is not required for a man or woman to practice their religion. Can a person NOT practice religion when alone or at home? If religion (and religious beliefs) only apply when a congregation of people with similar beliefs meet, what does that say about religious beliefs? As an aside, I would really love to have a deep discussion about the process of forming beliefs (of any and all kinds) - but that belongs in another thread for sure.

It may be preferred (desired) by the person but it is not required for a person to be religious that they must attend service(s).

The rest of Bunk's post was very good and I am sad to say that many of Bunk's points either have not been followed up on OR I have missed where they have been.

He said “most” religions so he left room for variety. In most organized religions, they encourage the attendance of services. In my religion, we are taught that the community is part of the religious practice. We are taught that we see Jesus in our fellow human beings. We can practice religion by ourselves and it is fine that many people do. I must admit that I am not a huge church goer right now but I used to be. It was much more fulfilling to me to practice my faith in a community than alone. I keep telling my DH that we need to get back to church. Maybe after the virus is over we can start participating in person again.

 

[VacationForever]

Since we talk about religion, which hopefully is not a contentious topic. My religion is based on living a life where we do no harm to others and we focus on only doing good deeds. You can say that the lyrics of John Lennon's Imagine is my world and my religion. If we can do this we all live in a better place.

 

[Brett]

Since we talk about religion, which hopefully is not a contentious topic. My religion is based on living a life where we do no harm to others and we focus on only doing good deeds. You can say that the lyrics of John Lennon's Imagine is my world and my religion. If we can do this we all live in a better place.

that's also my religion !

and I don't need to go to a physical geographic religious place where social distancing is necessary

 

[DrQ]

Supreme Court rejects challenge on California's limits on church crowds

READ: Supreme Court rejects challenge on California's limits on church crowds

A divided Supreme Court, in a 5-4 vote, on Friday rejected a request from a church in California to block limitations on the number of people who could attend religious services during the Covid-19 pandemic.

www.cnn.com